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glatt 03-04-2005 09:06 AM

Contrary to what some might lead you to believe, under the new standard set by the Supreme Court, it would still be illegal for three teenagers to lure a fourth to an isolated spot, kill, and rob him.

Troubleshooter 03-04-2005 09:34 AM

True, but now the courts get to rehash the life v juvenile life issue and whether it's cruel and unusual for states with 'life means life' statutes is a valid way to deal with someone for the next 60 years.

tw 03-04-2005 06:07 PM

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Did you read the part where I said how pretty you are?
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Oh, I thought you were talking about lookout when I read that part...

Did I forget to mention the time when Lookout123 and I served together in Her Magesty's Navy? (provided by The Economist of 26 Feb 2005 - for credibility).

tw 03-04-2005 06:15 PM

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... I heard a story about three locally infamous teenagers who lured a fourth to an isolated spot, then beat him to death and robbed his corpse and celebrated. And they did it for the thrill. I suspect KYW (local news station) was doing a little editorializing by their story placement, as my immediate reaction was "and THAT is why we need the death penalty for minors".

If capital punishment is to deter crime, well the difference between capital punishment verses jail must be understood by the perpetrator. Kids get shot and are complete surprised that it hurts. Why then would fear of the death penalty be any deterrent? If they don't even understand people actually die - or suffer pain - when shot; then how is capital punishment suppose to be any more effective than jail?

Yes, differences of brains between teenagers and adults is that significant.

Troubleshooter 03-04-2005 06:24 PM

Well, we could bring back the death penalty as a follow up to flogging.

If flogging doesn't instill a fear of pain or consequences, nothing will.

That way if they fuck up sufficiently again, they will be in a position to understand the conswquences.

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2005 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tw
Did I forget to mention the time when Lookout123 and I served together in Her Magesty's Navy? (provided by The Economist of 26 Feb 2005 - for credibility).

What happened to don't ask/don't tell? Oh...Brit Navy...nevermind. ;)

wolf 03-05-2005 12:43 AM

I actually had to go back and check to make sure that was the real tw that posted that, rather than his evil twin tw. ;)

OnyxCougar 03-06-2005 11:03 AM

I think his password has been compromised.

lookout123 03-06-2005 11:26 AM

now tw, that was funny. congratulations.

xoxoxoBruce 03-06-2005 01:07 PM

And you thought he was just another pretty face. :)

Trilby 03-06-2005 02:47 PM

Did tw read the part where I said he was pretty?

tw 03-06-2005 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCougar
I think his password has been compromised.

ah' believe ya' gots' discuverd whos ah' really am. 'S coo', g'rl.


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