Wikipedia editors sometimes lock articles which are the subject of edit wars like this.

From Wikipedia's 'What Wikipedia is Not' page:

It seems a little unfair to say that wikipedia 'cannot be trusted' for things that aren't 'basic benign facts that are completely accepted by all' when that is its stated remit. Perhaps better to say that Wikipedia is not there to provide anything but the basic facts as accepted by all, and cannot speak to matters beyond that.

almost, but not really. It depends upon the subject. This all goes back to the inherent bias we all have.
Rewriting history and all that..
yet at times it does...

Bob Schieffer ...
Couldn't have said it better myself.

why?
We all know it's the relatively new Tea Party representatives. This was a bipartisan deal, passed overwhelmingly in the Senate. And the tools in the Tea Party are the spoilers. They shot it down and offered nothing in return. It's very ironic to me that the Tea Party is the group behind the coming tax increases. It's exactly the opposite of what they say they are about.

Although I agree with you for the most part, they are all at fault for dicking around until the last moment. They spend way more time on political posturing than they do on actual legislating.
They need to STFU and DO whats right for us, not them.

Please tell us how the Dem's can stop dicking around...
... maybe cut unemployment benefits again ... yeah, that's one way.

The legislators typically dick around until the last minute, until the pressure is really on and they then make a last minute deal. I don't approve of that governing style, but it's the way it has been forever. What's different now, is that they are dicking around until the last minute, they make a deal, and then the Tea Party spoils it and now they have mostly all gone home for the holidays while the middle class gets to face their unemployment benefits being stopped and their paychecks being cut. Merry fucking Christmas, America. Brought to you by the Tea Party.
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No.

No, they're not all at fault, that is what the *bad* ones want you to think. "I'm bad, I'll just fuck up the whole parade, and then my badness will blend in with the rest. My badness will be covered up, the good work of others, my enemies, will be covered up. It is my goal to make it all look bad." I think it's important to assess each issue on its own merits, and each member on their own merits.

AS A GROUP, Congress is seriously fucked up. On this we agree. But that is not because "they are all at fault" equally. In this most recent ... event, I place the most blame for what's happened, that is what has not happened, on Boehner. He's the leader of the party that is in charge of the agenda in the House. The House is where this is stopped, and in the most craven way. I like how he/they have caused the process to fail (for the moment) by a parliamentary procedure, and *not* by an actual vote. I am weary of this kind of behavior. It is a perversion of our system, evidence of a corruption of those in charge.

I blame both Boehner and the Tea Party idiots. Boehner is the leader of the House Republicans. All he had to do is tell them we are voting on this bill NOW. You know, lead already. Instead, he hides behind the skirts of this minority group and whines, "The Tea Party made me do it!" Pfffft!

Agree with Glatt's comments.

Don't you love how they paid for it?

No really true. They offered a package already that passed the House. They just rejected the Senate package, not the same as, "shot it down and offered nothing in return."

The Senate's two-month version continues the payroll tax and jobless benefits at this year's levels and costs $33 billion. The bargainers agreed to pay for that by raising fees people pay for new mortgages or refinancing insured by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-backed mortgage companies. For a $200,000 mortgage, the fee increase would raise a borrower's cost about $17 a month.

BFD. Why are you weeping crocodile tears over THAT? :rolleyes:

That will surely help the housing market. :rolleyes:

Nope, but where is the whine about taxing the middle class? The problem that I have with it is 1) it is a tax on a system that is already broken and is financially supported with taxpayer dollars and bailouts and 2) it sets a bad precedent to tax a narrow part of a semi-private business to fund general taxation, slippery slope. The financial pain is minimal. But the whole deal only does what Obama and the Dems have done repeatedly, kick the can down the calendar and deal with it another day or in the case of Obamacare, kick the tax and enactment of the majority of the law down the lane and make someone else deal with his mess. If they wanted to really deal with it they should have taken the Senate plan and added a 1 year extension to it. The bottom line the payroll tax is just another income tax that goes to the general fund and is not something special, they should do away with it.