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DanaC 03-02-2009 03:05 PM

Too many kids get put needlessly onto meds for 'problems' which aren't medical.

But...some kids need those meds. From your description, your little boy's brain chemistry is painting him a very hostile and unforgiving world. Sounds like your therapist's experience with his own son is worth some thought. You may be able to save li'l lookout a lot of unhappiness.

Cicero 03-02-2009 03:48 PM

The world isn't hostile and unforgiving?

Meds please. :)

monster 03-02-2009 03:54 PM

Lookout, it's not necessarily a life sentence, growing up is hard enough as it is. Meds can help the sufferer while they deal with the regular growing up stuff and aquire coping strategies. As they mature and have made sense of some of their little bit of the world, many people are able to wean themselves off the meds. Michael Phelps for example.

I'm a knee-jerk anti-meds person too, but in this case it sounds like meds may be in the best interests of LL right now.

God luck to all of you, I hope LL feels happier soon.

Cicero 03-02-2009 04:03 PM

Lookout-

As far as little lookout is concerned:I would definitely go with a second opinion before meds. It could not hurt. And I think it's worth it. Please take him to someone else to get another diagnosis, this sounds irregular, maybe he just needs time and therapy to become his natural self again. This could be a depressive phase that even normal people go through.

Different therapists advise different things and unfortunately, some are more acute than others. Second opinion that situation, stat!

ZenGum 03-02-2009 04:50 PM

Dana: If The Bill is anything to go by, there WILL be paperwork, and lots of it. Refusing a prisoner medical treatment is outrageous, and if you have the time and energy to spare I would encourage you to look into it; but don't spend time you could better use elsewhere. That cop does need a boot up the bum.

I imagine you'd have the political connections to at least find out in advance the name of the paperwork you are looking for - maybe the "custody records" or something. Knowing what you need before you face the bureaucracy will help.

Lookout: best of luck with LL. That lad rocks and I hope he comes through this all intact. I agree with your opinions and default avoidance of meds, but if he needs them, he needs them, and I am sure you'd be using them as part of a complete cognitive/behavioural programme and get him off the pills ASAP. Give the lad a :comfort: from us all.

monster 03-02-2009 10:16 PM

Just learned a friemd underwent a mastectomy for breast cancer. It wasn't at all advanced, but there were several other "dubious" spots that would need to be watched and she's a single mom of two with a loser ex, huge un-dumpable mortgage, full-time job..... so she didn't want the constant fight and worry and uncertainty and chance of missing something and leaving her children.... :(

Aliantha 03-02-2009 10:22 PM

Sounds like she made a tough, but good decision monster. I'm sure you'll be able to give her plenty of support through the next while till she gets used to the way her body is now. I hope she's coping ok with it all. I can't imagine going through that process.

monster 03-03-2009 07:18 AM

She hardly told anybody either, so it's hard to know when to step in and when to back off. I taught math to one of her daughters yesterday and she seemed to be holding up well, laughing and getting on with it (I heard there were a few meltdowns on the day of surgery...). here's hoping the worst is past, I don't know if she'll have to do chemo or anything. She has her mom with her, al least, though, who seems to be a tower of strength.

Trilby 03-03-2009 08:23 AM

my thoughts are with her, monster. I can't imagine...I only have a few scars but it has changed the way I look at myself---to lose a breast---I don't know if I could have held up. Peace to her and her family.

Clodfobble 03-03-2009 12:44 PM

I'm sure she's glad to have you there for her, monster, even if she's not making a big deal about it.

Trilby 03-03-2009 02:18 PM

I'm collecting Jim Shore figurines and I can't help myself!

SteveDallas 03-03-2009 02:31 PM

I made a total rookie mistake today. (You don't just run backups. You also do test restores periodically to make sure they're running PROPERLY.)

Clodfobble 03-03-2009 02:35 PM

Heh. At a previous employer, they were migrating email over to a new server, and somehow got it wrong, deleting every single email account in the company, along with all associated emails, addressbooks, etc.

It was only then that they discovered they'd been doing backups incorrectly for four years. "Test restore? What's that?"

Which is to say, at least rookie mistakes still way better than firing mistakes, right?

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2009 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 540918)
I'm collecting Jim Shore figurines and I can't help myself!

But, but, they're so, so, acceptable/normal/middle class.:eek:
Hell, they won't offend a n y o n e.

Cloud 03-05-2009 01:11 PM

Dr. called--wants to see me re: my sonogram results.

probably means uterine cysts, ovarian cysts, cancer, or something else wrong in there.

I'm a bit scared.

Cicero 03-05-2009 02:30 PM

:(

::hugs::

Cloud 03-05-2009 02:40 PM

thanks. I needed that!

DanaC 03-05-2009 02:56 PM

*hugs Cloud* oh hon, that sucks. It'll likely be nothing major. When you seeing him?

Cloud 03-05-2009 03:03 PM

manana. just trying not to obsess over it until I hear the diagnosis.

Trilby 03-05-2009 03:03 PM

good luck, cloud. Let us know.

limey 03-05-2009 03:29 PM

Sending good thoughts your way, Cloud!

Pie 03-05-2009 03:37 PM

Cloud, it's probably just a smudge on the reading, they need to retake it. Or something relatively straightforward.

Wait and see. Till then, read a good book or drink some coco.

Aliantha 03-05-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 541764)
Dr. called--wants to see me re: my sonogram results.

probably means uterine cysts, ovarian cysts, cancer, or something else wrong in there.

I'm a bit scared.

You know it's probably just cysts and they'll biopsy them. The worst they might end up doing is a hysterectomy (sp?) and of course the upside of that is no more periods. That's something good to think about isn't it?

Stay positive. Don't think the worst. It wont help at all.

I'll be thinking of you matey. xox

Queen of the Ryche 03-05-2009 04:45 PM

Hang in there Cloud. Mine were cysts, they took them out, still had a kid, and she only came out with two heads.

dar512 03-05-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche (Post 541879)
Hang in there Cloud. Mine were cysts, they took them out, still had a kid, and she only came out with two heads.

Bonus. Everyone knows two heads are better than one.

dar512 03-05-2009 05:23 PM

Sorry to hear that Cloud. I hope it's a minor deal.

Cloud 03-05-2009 05:57 PM

me too! Keeping my fingers . . . er, legs, crossed!

Hysterectomy. Do. Not. Want!

Aliantha 03-05-2009 06:00 PM

Really? I've often thought I might like to have one just because I don't need those organs anymore (after the baby of course). Well, not really like to have one, but that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

I know a lot of women don't feel that way, but I don't understand why. If you're finished using it, what do you need it for? Is it the emotional thing of having part of your womanhood removed?

Clodfobble 03-05-2009 06:05 PM

My mom had one, and she did great. But if you don't want one Cloud, then I'll hope that you don't get one. :)

classicman 03-05-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche (Post 541879)
Hang in there Cloud. Mine were cysts, they took them out, still had a kid, and he only came out with two heads.

fixed that for ya. :D

footfootfoot 03-05-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 541903)
Really? I've often thought I might like to have one just because I don't need those organs anymore (after the baby of course). Well, not really like to have one, but that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

I know a lot of women don't feel that way, but I don't understand why. If you're finished using it, what do you need it for? Is it the emotional thing of having part of your womanhood removed?

Depends on how you look with a mustache, from what I've heard.[/mr. sensitive]

monster 03-05-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 541903)
Really? I've often thought I might like to have one just because I don't need those organs anymore (after the baby of course). Well, not really like to have one, but that it wouldn't be the end of the world if I did.

I know a lot of women don't feel that way, but I don't understand why. If you're finished using it, what do you need it for? Is it the emotional thing of having part of your womanhood removed?


After a hysterectomy, you may experience the following hysterectomy side effects:
• Hot flashes
• Fatigue
• Insomnia
• Depression
• Urinary problems
• Weight gain
• Headaches
• Irritability and anxiety
• Heart palpitations
• Heart disease
• Vaginal dryness
• Pain in the joints
• Memory lapses
• Osteoporosis
• Hair loss
• Low sex drive and painful sexual intercourse
• Dizziness and nervousness


Hey Cloud, hope it isn't that, but even if it is, we'll all mail you chicken soup. And cookies. And cocks.

Tiki 03-05-2009 09:46 PM

Good luck, Cloud! It's probably only cysts, don't worry too much.

Usually with hysterectomies these days they leave the ovaries, which means that most of the side effects are moot points because they were related to removing the ovaries.

Tiki 03-05-2009 09:48 PM

Today I'm upset because two days ago I tried to extend an olive branch to a friend I had a falling-out with, and he hasn't responded. :(

elSicomoro 03-05-2009 10:20 PM

Hang in there, Tiki...give it some time.

Tiki 03-05-2009 10:22 PM

Thanks, Sycamore. I'm trying really hard.

You know those people who are always telling you to live in the moment? Well, living in the moment isn't that awesome if the moment SUCKS ASS.

classicman 03-05-2009 10:23 PM

then look to the future - Adopt a "This too shall pass" mentality....
if it helps that is. Sorry you aren't happy

Tiki 03-05-2009 11:20 PM

Thanks, Classicman. I've always had a hard time escaping the moment... I've wondered if it's related to having temporal lobe epilepsy, as my memory and sense of elapsed time are really wonky. Who knows, it's probably just me being neurotic.

Cloud 03-06-2009 05:14 PM

so the word: gigantic uterous; large ovarian cysts, possibly cancerous (still testing). Need an MRI and CT scan, and . . .

Everything must go! Hysterectomy, oopherectomy, and whatever other ectomies clean out all those organs.

Needless to say, I am a bit upset now.

Tiki 03-06-2009 05:17 PM

O fuck! Good luck! I hope it's not cancerous, and that everything goes SMOOTHLY.

Cicero 03-06-2009 05:35 PM

Shit. :(

Clodfobble 03-06-2009 05:41 PM

Oh Cloud, I'm sorry to hear you're going through this. Maybe it will help to think of it as "operable" rather than "must go?" Better to have it gone, rather than hanging out in your body possibly being cancerous, right?

Cloud 03-06-2009 06:16 PM

yeah. not the end of the world, certainly. I'm just a bit shell shocked right now.

Shawnee123 03-06-2009 06:21 PM

Sure you are. Keep positive thoughts, because though it sucks, I bet you'll find it's all OK.

Sending warm thoughts your way...

Undertoad 03-06-2009 06:31 PM

So what? You don't need those goddamn organs taking up your valuable middle. Nothing but fuss and bother for year after year after year. Out with em.

AND, I say -- is somebody afraid of a little body modification? Of course not. If you told somebody you did this by choice, they'd think you were bad-ass.

Shawnee123 03-06-2009 06:32 PM

Amen, UT. :notworthy:

Cloud's gonna rock it!

Cloud 03-06-2009 06:36 PM

heehee. that's why I love this place and all of you!

footfootfoot 03-06-2009 06:40 PM

Cloud I was gonna say how much that sucked but UT made such a good case for it, I'm kinda sorry I don't have uterus. You have us mostly supportive, in our warped way, dwellars to fall back on!

DanaC 03-06-2009 06:55 PM

Bloody hell Cloud, that's no fun. Hugs from me, and a big sloppy kiss from Pilau.*


*actually that's probably quite gross: he ate his supper about an hour ago so he currently has a bad case of tripe breath...

Shawnee123 03-06-2009 06:57 PM

Well I want a big sloppy kiss from Pilau. He's my buddy. I've written poetry for him, for pete's sake. ;)

HungLikeJesus 03-06-2009 07:00 PM

You lost me there. Who's pete? Do you mean PETA?

Shawnee123 03-06-2009 07:01 PM

I thought you called it pete, HLJ. Must have been someone else.

Trilby 03-06-2009 07:03 PM

Cloud - hey! Let's hope it's not cancerous; let's burn that bridge when we get there. In the meantime, soak up the cellar-good-vibe-ism because it works, chica, it works!!

:hugs:

Pie 03-06-2009 07:29 PM

Cloud, I'm so sorry to hear this news. I'm still hoping for the best for you.

Tony, you have a way with words! :notworthy

monster 03-06-2009 07:45 PM

Bummer, Cloud. Still, it's a quick weightloss plan.... and UT said it best. Maybe you could get one of your ovaries encased in glass and then suspend it from one of your piercings?

Cloud 03-06-2009 09:19 PM

um. no. thanks for the thought, though!

limey 03-07-2009 05:14 AM

Cloud, nothing much I can add here except good vibes. I think all the guys (& gals) have come up with the options for positive thinking - out with it, stomp on it and get on with your life! :flower:

Chocolatl 03-07-2009 06:06 AM

Hugs and good luck, Cloud. Will be thinking about you!

(As a silly aside, I wonder how many internal organs, collectively, we Dwellars are missing?)

Cloud 03-07-2009 09:08 AM

internal organs . . . limbs . . . external organs . . . eyes . . .

. . . brains.

:D

pilau 03-07-2009 09:27 AM

Woof Woof! Slurp Slobber Slurp wag wag Woof!


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