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Effective police force?

Is this the effective police force you speak of?

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In the USA it's called the PATRIOT ACT.

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Requires knowledge of the image in question which many people here would know. Basicly it says "argueing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still a retard" fark refers to a website called fark.com , talk a look.

Oh! I get it; yes, I did see that image. Your spelling threw me off; with the word "imagine" there, it isn't much of a sentence at all.

Re: Effective police force?

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Originally posted by BruteForce
Is this the effective police force you speak of?

I'm not sure if you were referring to me or jag, but I was speaking of the United States in my post. Of course, our government is trying to do the same thing in terms of monitoring communications, and it wouldn't surprise me if they try to bring back the War Powers Act as it was used during WW1.

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Originally posted by jaguar
My guess is that I’m arguing with people from the 'small-government' school of thought. Call me insane but I’m willing to delegate things like law enforcement to the government we elect.

Law enforcement? Sure; they make the laws, they can enforce them. But personal defense? A different matter entirely. Law enforcement just means they track down and punish anyone who breaks the laws (they do a bad job at this, and not just in the US, but that's another story). Thing is, if someone's attacking me, I'm MUCH more interested in stopping the attack than in whether they are punished afterwards.

using sex in an attempt to get the thread off gun contol ...

syc i know the second amendment to quote myself

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Each nation has its own collection of political lobby groups and socio-political hang-ups,

Mabye i should have made it more clear what i was refering to, my equlancy tends to fail early in the morning (its now 11am here). I agree, education is essential, life oppotunities and all that are the key - any solution i think is better than arming the populace in some desperate bid for self-defence as a substitute to an effective police force. Yes the word imagine would have thrown me off too =)

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If you know you're gooing to be caught afterwards you're not going to do it are you, or less likely. While the cops here aren't a perfect bunch they generally seem to do a pretty good job - i'm judging that by the experience of myself and those around me

pink has nice teeth.

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Originally posted by jaguar
If you know you're gooing to be caught afterwards you're not going to do it are you, or less likely.

I don't know how things are going in Australia, but here, we seem to have a new breed of criminals. A group that either a)Doesn't think they'll get caught, b) Thinks they can beat the system on a technicality (which does happen), or c) Doesn't care if they get caught or not.

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Originally posted by sycamore
Strictly as a hypothetical, maybe someone will try to mug Maggie (not that I want to see that happen, of course) and WILL draw a gun faster than her. But, because she is also carrying, there is an equalizing factor. It gives her a fighting chance. To put it plainly, it moves her status from "completely fucked" to "possibly fucked." :)

Poor Maggie. I think she's hypothetically mugged/raped every time we have a gun debate.

Pink fails to change the topic ...

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Originally posted by juju
Poor Maggie. I think she's hypothetically mugged/raped every time we have a gun debate.

I know...that's horrible. :)

Seriously, the only reason I used Maggie in my example is b/c she is a fervent gun rights supporter, and she is the only one here that I know of that owns a gun (or at least talks about it).

I own a number of guns, but I don't carry.

Okay, now I'll say something.

Maggie is not the only one here who openly owns a gun(s), will admit to it, carries one for personal protection, and generally supports the NRA. I am 100% right behind her (I love the womens' movement from here). She is doing a fine job of defending herself and her opinions without me muddying the waters.

But you never know who might be on her side without saying it.

Brian

PS to Maggie, I gave you a free pass on that misquote about the ends justifying the means in an earlier forum.
You owe me one.

B