Delusion isn't just a river in Egypt.

Or something like that.

talk about your shitty assignments....

Ya just keep plugging away with the puns...

Yeah. It bums me out.

Jason Witten is coming out of retirement to play another season for the Cowboys. that's weird news

We British are a peaceable and civilised bunch.
We live in a land where debate isn’t characterised by ill tempered exchanges.
A land where arguments are never advanced by personal insult or abuse but by intellectual rigour and the marshalling of incontrovertible facts, or demolished by equally rigorous forensic analysis.
The nature of debate is well illustrated by this Twitter exchange between Jon Snow, Channel 4 News presenter, and Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General.

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Make him use American tea bags for a fortnight. Better yet, prebrewed Sweet Tea. :lol2:

Have you no mercy? :eek:

Damn, man, that's a little harsh.

Even I won't drink most that swill.

Although Milo's Sweet Tea is pretty damn good.

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THIS is blowing my fucking mind.:3_eyes:


Kentucky's new concealed carry law: Here's what you should know

Basically, we no longer require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

This is going to bring about a bad mindset, you mark my words.

The If-you-so-much-as-look-crossways-at-me-Ima-just-kill-ya-cuz-you-might-have-a-gun-too kinda mindset.

We didn't need a permit for open carry, anyway, but this just seems nuts.

Kicker: We join 12 other like-minded states.

That, *plus* "Stand Your Ground...

Equals....


The Bodies Hit The Floor

An armed society is a polite society.
Keryx says that.

It's a bullshit bumper sticker

We're an armed society. How does that translate to politeness here? A polite society is a polite society. An armed society is a dangerous society.

People around here are very polite, and armed.

The same way nuclear capable nations go to great lengths to avoid assured mutual destruction. The saying refers to a society where most everyone is armed so that would-be violent criminals are either deterred; or, violent criminal actions are stopped before mass casualties are inflicted. It falls along the lines of God created all people equal, Samuel Colt kept them that way.

But that's not important now. What's important is how the concept of a mostly armed society is reflected in our culture by music. There are lessons to be learned, how to act and not to act, from these songs that shape our emotional beings:

I Shot the Sheriff
Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
Janie's Got a Gun
Don't Take Your Guns to Town
… etc.


The Cellar: If the thread topic is music, drift it to guns, and vice-versa

MP George Eustace this morning on the Sunday Politics South West show:


"Theresa May is an overdried teabag in a Poundland sale."

(Quoted from memory within minutes of the broadcast)
:corn:

Ouch.

I hadn't heard of Mr Eustice but I find this on Wikipedia...

Presumably not a very successful one.


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That's certainly a popular thought with many people. But allow me to give another perspective that you might not have considered.

What if having a concealed weapon gives people the security to help people in distress? Maybe a motorist having troubles? Someone having very manageable troubles like a flat tire. Or maybe engine trouble of some sort. Maybe you see that this person is vulnerable in some way and nervous or scared.

You aren't billy bad ass rushing out with a gun to shoot everyone but you have a little security just in case. You can be a little vulnerable yourself to assist without completely compromising your safety.

Or maybe you go somewhere out of the way maybe late at night. You see some guy roughing up a woman and yelling at her. He turns to give you an intimidating look. That same look that tells you 'I'm fucking dangerous, don't get involved here, move along'. But he stares into your eyes and reads your demeanor. That demeanor that says 'I'm not prey mother fucker'.

Or maybe you see a confrontation heating up. A couple of guys are arguing and getting increasingly louder, more angry. And maybe I'm there on the sidelines watching this. Maybe I might ask some really fucking stupid ass question to break their concentration knowing that if I break their concentration they'll likely just calm down. And if they turn on me, I have some security.

"Hey guys, really hate to interrupt here but I have a question for ya. Is there a 7-11 around here? I'm dyin' for a Slurpee" :)

In these cases that have happened to me, I don't yell or shout, don't pull a pistol out and spin it on my finger, but the people involved know that I'm not afraid of them.

Then the question is, he's obviously not afraid of ME, should I be afraid of him?

It's powerful. Predators are experts at assessing risk. At sensing fear. If you can manage that fear with or without a gat, you're probably going to be in a position to avoid troubles. In some cases help people and be a better witness to events.

"Yes, your Honor, I saw that man punch that lady"

While I am sympathetic to people that think negatively about people having concealed guns, my experience and that of millions of others is completely different.

That's probably why we still have the 2nd amendment. Secretly people know and understand that much of the anti-gun narrative is completely false. Despite all the emotional press about guns, I still like to have a piece. I trust myself.

Here's a link with some citizen defensive gun use. Not quite the same as I've detailed here but similar.

And don't forget my favorite pro-gun bumper sticker.

"I'd rather have a gun in my hand than the cops on the phone"

Oh I'm all for carrying. Concealed or otherwise. But have the permit to carry concealed. Flag that fact when the license plate is run "This individual is on the list of ppl carrying concealed. Be warned."

And, I ain't stopping to help nobody. If I'm concerned enough, which I usually ain't, I'll go down the road and call 911 for them. That's as involved as I get, pretty much. Of course there are situations where I would get involved.

But, generally, I ain't getting involved cuz now urrbody got a gat in they belt. Those ppl in distress you mentioned, they got guns, too, now. Everybody wants to kill you. You now have to live that way.

Cops will start frisking everybody they stop. I believe that's how this made it to law.

Car/person searches will go through the roof, mark my words.

I wonder how the other states that don't require a permit handle this? And what their numbers are?

I've never had problems in any regard. Even after law enforcement arrives. Or if they aren't even dispatched.

That could change in a second though.

We live in different worlds I guess.

I stop and help strangers.

I don't carry a gun.

I'm not afraid.

When I am afraid, I don't stop. I use my judgement. I like the idea of having more tools in my toolkit, but I don't want a gun. In my opinion, the risk of a bad outcome is a lot higher than the chance of a good outcome, so, no gun.

As for the second amendment, I believe in and support our Constitution. I also think that there are sensible rules that can be applied to gun ownership that are not being applied. Rules that sensible, reasonable people can agree to that would have the net effect of making everyone safer.

The rule highlighted by Grav will not, in my opinion, make everyone safer.

My viewpoint comes from an incident that happened a few years ago in the next town over.

Well known local guy stopped to help a couple with their hood up on the side of the road. It was an ambush robbery. When the good guy got out to help, the man pulled out a knife and started stabbing, the woman grabbed the man around his legs so he couldn't get away from the bad guy. They took his wallet out of his pants while he lay in the road bleeding to death. This happened on a main street of the town, a state highway.

The killers put their hood down and drove away and were never caught.

It had been ~20 years since the last outright murder in that town.

It's situations like that that keep my head on a swivel, and Sturm, Ruger & Company close at hand.

That guy wasn't afraid, and he didn't carry a gun.

I guarantee he died terrified. And if he died unafraid, he still died.

People are rotten.

If they weren't caught how do they know she grabbed his legs and grabbed his wallet, did somebody see them or video camera?

Witnesses that drove by while it was happening. This was broad daylight on a main thoroughfare.

Maybe a gun would have helped. Maybe not. Fucked up people are fucked up.

I'll think about your story, maybe even when I'm stopping to help the next guy. I really don't want to die like that. But I want even less to live in fear that something like that is probably going to happen.

Makes me wonder if taking the wallet was an attempt to make it look like a robbery, when it was really a hit?

Oh, Bruce, if you only knew that town...Almost Mayberry.

The world you both dwell in includes permitless Vermont. You know -- totally famous for those mass massacres over syrup rustling 'n' shit. Yeah.

One of you is ignoring the observable phenomena.

Besides Vermont, and with the proviso that some of these several States apply a condition or two, there are Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, both Dakotas, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Wyoming.

Conditions like you can't be nuts or a criminal?

Wait, whut?:eek:

;)

Or even, in effect "Thou shalt not carry in aid of a crime." That's pretty much Vermont's.

Oh, those words have been marked for decades.

And it doesn't happen. Hasn't happened. Isn't going to. Can't happen. But you do have to be au courant with the world to realize that.

That exact attitude was taken among those ignorant of arms and men when Florida liberalized concealed carry two decades ago or so. And now half of Florida is dead and the other half in jail... right? Only the sound of the wind is heard in Miami?

I'm clever enough to know arms, and to know not to bow to a false god, nor to hew to the articles of false faith. Grave, do you have anything that could possibly be an excuse?

There are psychiatrists willing to postulate things like "free-floating rage," and other maladjustments.

Ah, the old UG is back. His core belief to which he clings is "I am smart and you are not". It is his gun *and* his bible. UG: "You are wrong because I'm clever... what is your excuse for your stupidity again?" He gave us a little flourish on this one by hastily generalizing Grav's argument to include all of Florida--lorem ipsum non factor--Florida man lives therefore Grav's dum.

Gravdigr is *not dumb* (nor is UG, he is merely willfully ignorant and stubbornly and petulantly unwilling, not unable, to accept the truth about guns and their role in and affect on our society). His point is well taken. There are many examples of people being shot by shooters who were not in danger but merely afraid. Florida has many examples like this, Trayvon Martin is one of the poster children. It is sad. It is tragic. It is reduceable, if not preventable. But that requires the kind of dialog UG stupidly refuses to have. Making it easier to have more guns reduces the margin for error to dangerous, mortally dangerous levels.

Fearful people plus guns equals an increased chance someone's going to get shot. I don't believe increasing those chances makes anyone safer.

V, quit it. I know something about gunhandling that you do not. You are not -- have you ever been? -- at all willing to learn the something, are you now? That does not oblige me to emulate you.

I am not accusing Grave of stupidity, but of something worse. It may even be curable, even, if Grave gets woke. I am accusing him of perniciousness. If Grave does not *want* to be pernicious, genocide-friendly, and crime-abetting (the evidenced mindset of the Sacramento Democrats, may gadflies assail them) then his view of guns could more approach mine; he could know what I know, and not take refuge in an ignorance. Flying to that refuge would not be how you win one for civilization, V. I understand this even when you don't or can't. I'm wise.

Unarmed people are the fearful ones -- with the best of reasons. Armed people need never fear other armed people, simply because they can do something about it. There's no sign V appreciates what a comfort that is.

Private arming is the enforcing of human rights and civil rights too. In any imaginable circumstances, no matter how severe, you have those human rights that you, tw, xoxoBruce and three hundred and twenty-odd million others can *enforce,* regardless of whatever force, fraud, propaganda, advertising, or oppression may be militated against those rights. You, V, would sound very different were you not influenced by that propaganda and advertising. You'd sound more like me and be a dynamic force for civilization.

It is civilized to have a counterpoise to the State to prevent State barbarity and a counterpoise to private, criminal barbarity -- it clogs those temptations with imponderables, and that is exactly what the civilized man in full wants. It is what you want, whether got by this unpleasant means or by something nicer. I consider it as important as oxygen -- having studied on it. Ignorance, pace Orwell, is not Strength. I work to free myself of ignorance, and by golly, it's doing the job.

Who is still not on Urbane Guerrilla's enemies list?

I am vigilant, I am aware, I am alert.

I am ready.

I am accurate (enough).

I am not afraid.

Urbane Gorilla, you are woefully uninformed on anything regarding me. You do not know what I think, how I think, nor why.

Every single thing you mentioned concerning me is just fucking wrong.

Please leave me out of your insane ramblings.

Also, when you have time, stick your head inside TW's ass for me.

Thanks.

Good show, sounded just like him!

Sure thing, Rambo.

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I don't fear guns; I feam armed people with your foolish attitude.

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A bit of advice: no Glock penis-extension will make a fool invincible.

I would like to be the master of my own demise, if at all possible.

Remember the 200+ biker shootout in Waco, Texas? At the Twin Peaks (second cousin to a Hooters) restaurant? Back in 2015?

Well...

How the Waco Biker Shooting Case Fell Apart

155 ppl indicted. One man went to trial. His case, that cost the county $1.5 million, ended in a mistrial. Over 130 civil rights lawsuits have been filed.

Clusterfuck is a legal term, now.:yelsick:

Wow. Wasn't there a shit ton of confusing video?

Police: Mother tries karate, son strips and dog steals cornbread at Walmart

Fargon, wtf kind of dope they on up there in good ol' Wisconsin?!:eyebrow:

I want some of it.

The poor dog just wanted some cormbreab, man...

Hallucinogenics are wonderful drugs, they make you do fun things.

The Mississippi Mashed Potato Mystery

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May 3 (UPI) -- A tourist at a cabin in Tennessee captured photos of an unusual fellow visitor -- a black bear relaxing in the rental's hot tub.

Photo courtesy of Hannah Elizabeth Strickland

We're not taking your crap. Take it back or prepare for war.
 

Bummer, they got the bartendress.

Bartender charged after serving intoxicated mass shooter

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The guy brandished a BFK. Compliance was an option if she didn't have a shotgun behind the bar.

There are some bizarre traditions in this land and I've never heard of this one.

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No doubt this has its origins in a confrontation behind a pub, the participants being suitably fortified by several pints of Stench & Dredge's Old Peculier.

Thanks for unearthing the back story, Bruce.

As sports go, it looks like a candidate for compulsory drug testing.

BTW, that's testing for compulsory drugs.

Well, you'd have to be on something to want to participate. ;)