Douche.

Hit a nerve, did I?

He's pointing out what you want to call "left" and "right" have the same result of total government control. Making a new chart from total control on one side and no government control makes more sense to me. He could have reversed it and put total control on the right side, and still make his point, but you seem to be so hung up on the "left" & "right" labels you're missing his point.

Anyway, it was not primary support for his explanation(not argument) of the difference between a Democracy and a Republic. They would fall in between the extremes no matter what you put on the "right/left"

A guy named Jerry Pournelle did that, back in the 60s.

One axis of a cartesian plane was state control. Far left (on the graph) was no control or regulation at all, far right was utter control of every facet of life.

The vertical axis was economic. The lower end was no taxation or public services whatsoever, and the upper end was stifling taxation at every income level.

This allows you to plot yourself on the graph, and allows differentation between Stalin and Jefferson (on the "left"), and between Hitler and William Howard Taft (on the "right").

That sounds like a better way to define the possibilities more accurately.

No.

Why?

Because I said it, and Flint is all butthurt with me right now. :lol:

Right, I sign off on whatever else TGRR says. TGRR is unstoppable!

You should see his filing techniques.

This is different but serves the same purpose.

http://www.educationforum.co.uk/soci...ical_chart.jpg

It does? :eyebrow:

Kinda. Except that "Left" and "Right" are essentially meaningless terms.

I think they're using it to describe spending, since the state control issue is already on the graph.

"Jam it in the hopper."

It's on account of my stunning good looks.