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sugarpop 03-28-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 550294)
It doesn't say it is related to bullying but you have to wonder. Is this what we are coming to?



http://wcbstv.com/local/school.bans.hugs.2.969949.html

What kills me is, they KNOW who the bullies are, so why go to all the trouble of new rules that are stupid? Just KICK THE BULLIES OUT! Geezuz. It ain't rocket science.

sugarpop 03-28-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 550385)
Kids are kids. The problem is that adults need to be adults and know when to intervene and how to spot signs that a kid is in trouble. That applies both to bullied and bully. If it goes unchecked and the 'code of silence' prevails whlst young, then it sows seeds potentially for later bullying or aggressive and controlling behaviour in adulthood.

Learning how to interact and survive in groups is an important part of growing up and being human. But the environments in which we expect our young to acquire those social skills is quite an artificial one. 1200 kids gathered in one building, loosely grouped in 30s and 40s. It's very easy to get lost in there. As an adult I can walk away. A co-worker makes my life hell, a boss unreasonably focuses on my faults to the exclusion of others, the culture I find myself in doesn't really fit my personality...I can walk away. I have the ultimate sanction on any bullying behaviour in the workplace because I am not legally obliged to remain.


Wtf does a kid do? When they just don't fit into a 1200 strong community. What do they do, if a teacher hates them and keeps picking on them, what do they do if their classmates don't like them, or if they hate going into the building so much it makes them feel physically sick? What if they just can't get past the overwhelming rage they feel and theyre stuck with people who look down on them and call them stupid; maybe they keep getting into trouble, beating up on younger kids and have no idea why theyre doing it. Unless they have parents able and willing to homeschool them, or with the money and resources to try out different schools, they are stuck. Legally bound to be in a place where they are tormented.

If we as adults are expecting them to spend five years or more in an institution with no right to refuse or to argue for terms, we damn well have a duty to ensure they aren't undergoing huge psychological stress whilst there.

Well said Dana. Adults ARE part of the problem. They seem oblivious to what goes on around them, and even the good ones (at least in this country) have no power to stop it, because of the dumbass rules we have in place.

And in actuality, it's worked pretty well so far, because if you really look at the issue, that is how the masses are kept under control. Fear and complacency.

DanaC 03-29-2009 07:55 AM

You can only kick the bullies out if you have somewhere to kick them out to to. Chances are those are precisely the kids we most need to reach. Just kicking them out of the school isn't the answer. It stops them bullying the kids in that school but it does nothing to resolve the core issues. They're still kids. They're likely suffering a good deal of emotional or psychological pain and/or confusion. They're the ones who most need our attention and concern.

sugarpop 03-29-2009 10:06 AM

Well then, maybe there should be a special school for problem kids, so all the kids who are there to learn aren't distracted and abused while trying to get an education, and the bullies can get the special education and attention THEY need. I know we aren't dealing with the problem very well here in the states, at least in Savannah.

classicman 03-29-2009 11:34 AM

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

xoxoxoBruce 03-29-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 550687)
Well then, maybe there should be a special school for problem kids,....

Who's going to pay for this "special school"? I really don't want to spend another million dollars a year for every kid that needs a slap up side the head.

Pie 03-29-2009 01:14 PM

Just send them to an after-school program where xoB can give them "a slap up side the head". :lol2:

classicman 03-29-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 550743)
I really don't want to spend another million dollars a year for every kid that needs a slap up side the head.

lol - ya bully!

xoxoxoBruce 03-29-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 550746)
Just send them to an after-school program where xoB can give them "a slap up side the head". :lol2:

Christ, do I have to do everything? Send them home to their parents, that's their job.

monster 03-29-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 550031)
I will never have children. My kids are bound to be as ugly as me; there would be no hope for them.

WWWWWWWHAT. THEFUCK. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I didn't comment before because I thought maybe I misremembered what you looked like, and there's nothing more patronizing than telling a genuinely ugly person that they are not..... ....but no... you just posted this pic.... you are as cute as all get out.... and I am a non les-type who isn't into all the girly false compliment shit..... so shut up and listen....

Huge brown eyes to drown in, framed by eyebrows (note the plural -nowhere near a unibrow) that architects would die to design. Cheekbones plastic surgeons would use in their after ads... nose and chin so cute disney would design characters around them, and last -but by no means least- a smile that promises way more than any human has any right to expect to get. I'm not even going to start on the hair... much....but it ain't mouse and it knows it wants to be wavy. that rocks in my world.

SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. (But still don't have babies unless you want them.)

I do feel your pain. It's only in the last 5 years -since I found the pictures of me -the fat nerdy bullied 16yo in the cerise bathing suit- and looked at them through my grown-up eyes, that I realised I wasn't actually fat then. i just believed the assholes who said I was. I was still a nerd with bad fashion sense -still am and am OK with that, but it's the fat thing that has always stuck with me and -damnit- turns out I wasn't. Turns out you're not ugly.

sugarpop 03-29-2009 10:34 PM

I agree with monster Pie. You are cute as hell. ;)

Clodfobble 03-29-2009 11:39 PM

Word.

Ibby 03-30-2009 02:04 AM

Amen to that. Yer hawt.

DanaC 03-30-2009 05:57 AM

Well said Monster.

dar512 03-30-2009 08:55 AM

Oh, yeah. The Pie is babe-a-licious. I always said so.

(Well, ever since she first posted a picture)


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