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I'm guessing that since Mubarek is gone the next ruler might lift the ban against the Muslim Brotherhood. So now they are trying to put up a good front so they can start getting some support from the Egyptian people. Once they get support, then they can start trying to make a large impact on Egyptian politics in a democratic way. If this is true, the worse thing that can happen is a bad secular government gets put into place that fails in five years and everyone starts supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. Also, if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, they know they will just become the next Iran. They will lose a lot of trade and aid from Western countries which will probably not help their unemployment problem. I don't think they would last long under those conditions and I'm guessing they know that. |
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The MB has a long history of violent action against various Arab states going all the way back to the 30's and 40's. They aligned with the Nazi's against the UK and carried out actions against Allied forces and governments of Arab states during WW2. They were involved in numerous radical Islamic movements across the Arab world. You can read an extensive free down loaded article on Stratfor's web site here, but I can't post the article according to their copy right statement. Check it out. Save it as a PDF. Here: http://www.stratfor.com/memberships/...special-report |
Ok, I found it on-line.... and before anyone has a meltdown because it is from Bill O'Reilly's website... it is word for word from Stratfor and the link was via Huffington Post.
http://www.billoreilly.com/site/rd?s...102729924.html Huff link to above: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/t/stra...764927488.html |
Algeria is rocking....
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Egyptians are doing it for themselves. Some of the opinions above seem a little condescending.
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The Muslim Brotherhood will certainly have a voice in whatever new government is established, being that they are one of the only organized opposition groups. They do represent a small segment of Egyptian society and should have a voice.
IMO, the conservative in the US are exaggeration their influence. There is nothing to suggest that they have widespread support and this was not an Islamic uprising. One of the most telling signs was the shouting down of Islamic slogans by the vast majority of mixed Coptic Christians and Muslims. There were no widespread calls of "death to the US" or "death to Israel" or "death to the infidels" but rather shouts of joy over the simple concept of obtaining basic human rights after 30 years of oppression. It looks like the military will be in charge during a transition and their interest is in stabilizing the country and the economy, particularly since they control a large portion of the economy. My hope is that the conservatives in the US will be more circumspect with anti-Islamic rhetoric. |
CAIRO – The ruling military pledged Saturday to eventually hand power to an elected civilian government and reassured allies that Egypt will abide by its peace treaty with Israel after the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak, as it outlined the first cautious steps in a promised transition to greater democracy.
I sure hope we still have a sensible President when the new Egyptian government is established. Chaney's comments about the "good man" Mubarak shows how thin our pro-democracy veneer is with some and why the Egyptian people don't and maybe shouldn't trust us. |
Algeria next to take that walk?
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Just catching up here...
... and was wondering - does America have any left leaning newspapers? I don't mean rabid leftwing toilet paper. I just mean mainstrean NOT rightwing. The two most quoted British papers here seem to be the Hate Mail which is slightly to the right of Attila the Hun (and often quoted on "loony left" policies or "political correctness gone mad!") or The Grauniad, which is lefty but factual. And I feel a little pride in British journalism every time I see them used as a source. |
One would find the LA Times, SF Chronicle to be very left, NY Times and Washington Post to be leaning left.
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Seriously, Merc, the majority?
Left as we see left in this country? Thanks for the info, UT. I'll stop by their websites. |
So Egypt wind up with Omar Suleiman soon. Is not good, Omar Suleiman is one big psychotic. Is like torture, is like "extraordinary rendition", is take part in torture himself.
"Psychotic" is right word, yes? |
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One should never judge a paper only by its editorials. For example, both the Wall Street Journal and New York Times are moderates. One has a very right wing editorial board. The other is closer and slightly left of center. But editorial departments are separate from news department. Which is why the NY Time, LA Times, The Economist, Newsweek, and the Wall Street Journal all report news from the perspective of educated people - moderates. You have seen how TheMercenary constantly posts how he wants Obama to fail. And promoted *hate* of Muslim in lower Manhattan (how dare they setup a mosque on holy ground covered in betting parlors and whore houses). Therefore every news source except for Fox News will be pinko lefty socialist. Back on 4 Dec 2005, the NY Times reported on how bad both GM and Chrysler products were. On 6 Apr 2005, the LA Times provided an even more scathing article on same. So GM started a program to intentionally bankrupt the LA Times. Then the Wall Street Journal piped in noting that GM had also tried to harm them for reporting honestly. Meanwhile, where was Fox News? Silent. Calling GM what it was contrary to the political agenda. People must be told how to think – not facts. Today, everyone knows the NY Times, LA Times, etc were 100% correct about crap from those anti-American companies. But only moderate sources reported that news honestly back then. Two other superb news sources are Charlie Rose (PBS) and Frontline (PBS). The investigative journalism from Frontline, for example, demonstrated the myth and lies that justified "Mission Accomplished". Includes superb investigative reporting from Lowel Bergman among others. |
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