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HungLikeJesus 07-11-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 362929)
Muslima: probably a bit late, but welcome to the Cellar.

Out of interest has anybody given Muslima the quiz?

Are you giving the quiz?

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 362986)
every single thing i say you must disagree me without searching & knowing what i mean

I did search:
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 362922)

The search revealed that you were incorrect.

Disagreeing is not hate. I hate nobody.

Muslima 07-11-2007 06:52 PM

for example, what's make you sure that muslims crushed the tower,
what's our advantage from killing innocence people.
why don't you say that other sources did it for they advantage?

Muslima 07-11-2007 06:56 PM

what makes*** :D:D

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 06:58 PM

The evidence you provided for "other sources" was silly.

Undertoad 07-11-2007 07:00 PM

Happy Monkey determines the truth by looking at facts and evidence. He doesn't just accept one person's word. He has read and watched enough to know what is true and what is false, by seeing who says what, why they can be believed, and which facts can and cannot be challenged.

He is smart! He didn't have to search for your answers. He has seen similar puzzles and riddles in the past, and he knows they are only a trick, not a way to find the truth.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:01 PM

still you didn't answer my question. you was a passanger on the same plane?!! does any record revealed which says that we did that ?!

Undertoad 07-11-2007 07:04 PM

Happy Monkey is so smart, Muslima, that he does not blame all Muslims simply because 19 Muslims decided to crash those planes.

He only blames those 19 Muslims, and the men who helped them to plan.

He believes that everyone is responsible for their own choices. He would never blame you. What those men did, does not make YOU a worse person.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:05 PM

in fact, i asked too many questions before and who disagreed me didn't answer? i'll repeat a question that i didn't find it's answer here
do thugs & criminals represent thier religion, what about your country isn't it too full of them, we all know that, but we don't judge you through them, so why you judge us through them!!

HungLikeJesus 07-11-2007 07:07 PM

Muslima - why do you keep changing your user title? Are you sending secret messages?

You could just use LJs invisible ink technique.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:08 PM

what uer title??

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:09 PM

what user title?? i use invisble mode

Undertoad 07-11-2007 07:10 PM

We do not have to see a person's action, to know what they have done. There are other ways to know truth for certain. You can compare the words of people who did see, for example.

In our country, information moves differently than it does in Kuwait. With all due respect, my friend, I am not saying one is better than the other. But I know that, with the sort of eye for truth that Happy Monkey has, he can look at many different facts from many different places, and determine what is true.

Undertoad 07-11-2007 07:11 PM

HLJ, the user title changes automatically here, usually by number of posts; unless you choose one of your own.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:13 PM

is it yours?? if it is yours i won't reply again !!

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:14 PM

please don't change the subject to escape from answering

HungLikeJesus 07-11-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363004)
what user title?? i use invisble mode

Muslima -- under your name is your user title. Right now, mine says "HappyLikeJoe."

You can ask LumberJim to assign you a title here, if you want, or you can pick your own at the User CP (upper left part of the screen).

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:17 PM

it's done. no one wanna answer that means that am right, we here call silence agreement, sothanks :)

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:19 PM

thank you HLJ , am sorry for my prieviews reply i got you wrong, :)

Undertoad 07-11-2007 07:21 PM

Muslima, I can't speak for all people, I can speak only for myself. I don't judge all Muslims through the actions of a small number.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:23 PM

i don't mean you i mean people who hate muslims without reasons, i know that you are opened minded

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:24 PM

open minded:D it's the first website to reply in :D

HungLikeJesus 07-11-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363011)
thank you HLJ , am sorry for my prieviews reply i got you wrong, :)

That's all right, Muslima, you never know when I'm being serious.

You should take a look around the Cellar; there are lots more interesting threads than this one.

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363001)
do thugs & criminals represent thier religion, what about your country isn't it too full of them, we all know that, but we don't judge you through them, so why you judge us through them!!

Some people do, and they shouldn't. And some Muslims do judge the US based on the actions of our thugs and criminals, and they shouldn't.

However, you can't pretend that the thugs and criminals don't exist. Representatives of the USA have acted thuggishly and criminally, and so have representatives of Islam. It doesn't mean that Americans or Muslims in general are evil, just that they are humans. It is important for Americans and Muslims to rein in their thuggish criminal activities, and that is not possible if you refuse to admit that they exist, or claim that the ones on one side don't count because of the ones on the other side.

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:35 PM

thank you again HLJ :)

Muslima 07-11-2007 07:42 PM

i know that they exist, but we don't consider them muslims. you know , we've in our religion if one muslim killed a person we don't consider him muslim because souls for ALLAH not for us.

xoxoxoBruce 07-11-2007 08:01 PM

How convenient... if a muslim kills someone, they are automatically not a muslim anymore, therefore there are no muslim murderers.

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:06 PM

that what allah said, they only holding the religion by name that what i've said before, please check it in the previews pages :), i think too that christianity contains the same meaning, i think no one is free to snatch thoes people & change thier religion, i won't catch one by one to ask them did you kill before, but what we do is punishing them

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:07 PM

and here where i stay thoes extremists was killed.

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363018)
i know that they exist, but we don't consider them muslims. you know , we've in our religion if one muslim killed a person we don't consider him muslim because souls for ALLAH not for us.

Unfortunately, there are Imams who disagree, and someone who is shunned by your religious leaders can join a different group.

And even if all Muslim leaders joined together to denounce violence, there would still be violent Muslims, because Muslims are human. Pretending that they aren't Muslim is essentially the same as pretending they don't exist, because you can just claim that they don't count.

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:12 PM

aha and muslims enter other's country without permission & saying i'll take this land & if u didn't give it to me i'll killyou, right!! hhh so funny

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 363028)
Unfortunately, there are Imams who disagree, and someone who is shunned by your religious leaders can join a different group.

And even if all Muslim leaders joined together to denounce violence, there would still be violent Muslims, because Muslims are human. Pretending that they aren't Muslim is essentially the same as pretending they don't exist, because you can just claim that they don't count.

are you muslim to know that they are our leaders who told you ha,
what's the name of them & i'll translate everything was said about them just to know that we don't agree them?

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363030)
aha and muslims enter other's country without permission & saying i'll take this land & if u didn't give it to me i'll killyou, right!! hhh so funny

People of pretty much all races, cultures, and religions have done that.

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:20 PM

imams ,leaders, muslims against jihad didn't that what your news channels say?? when you clean your religion from criminals we will too, but first tell me how to clean it

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363033)
i'll translate everything was said about them just to know that we don't agree them?

I don't think you agree with them. That's the point. There are thousands and thousands of Islamic leaders, with many different interpretations of Islam, and there's nobody to decide which ones are "real".

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363037)
imams ,leaders, muslims against jihad didn't that what your news channels say?? when you clean your religion from criminals we will too, but first tell me how to clean it

I have no religion. I also cannot tell you how to clean yours, but I can tell you that you can't do it by pretending that they don't count or by waiting for someone else to do it first.

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:30 PM

we muslims know who's real & who's fake, but people in any religion that don't know thier religion very well simply anything would be said they will obey it. that don't mean to ignore the whole religion because of them

Happy Monkey 07-11-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363041)
we muslims know who's real & who's fake,

But some of those who you think are fake think that they are real and you are fake.

Muslima 07-11-2007 08:38 PM

you know something i feel bored from this page,, i'll end my peom it's better than here bye happy monkey.

piercehawkeye45 07-11-2007 09:01 PM

Muslima, the 9/11 conspiracy has no proof and every single theory on how it worked can and has been debunked. I have seen just about every theory out there and each of them has been disproven.

Also, just because someone goes against their religion does not make other people's perspectives change on the matter. Some of the people that have been performing terrorist attacks have been using Islam as an excuse and even though you obviously don't condemn their actions, you can not create a barrier between you two. Though, most people should be able to figure out that what they are doing is not what Islam preaches just as most people realize that the Christians that bomb abortion clinics or protest soldier's funerals are not doing what Christianity preaches.

TheMercenary 07-11-2007 09:06 PM

I am very open minded. I think we should keep an open mind as we hunt down and kill Muslim extremists around the world. And the beat goes on...

Urbane Guerrilla 07-11-2007 09:52 PM

Four pages of this BS? Dear oh dear; somebody seems not to have enough to do.

skysidhe 07-12-2007 12:22 AM

Thank you Happy Monkey. I loved your logic. Well I guess you shined by default. Oh well.:)

Shawnee123 07-12-2007 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 362948)
i swear i don't mean you happy monkey :D someone else

Oooh, you're so cryptic, and...mysterious. How can I NOT believe that you know what you're talking about re Q33?

Muslima 07-12-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 362688)
Fuck you. You can kiss this kids ass, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to her bitch about how I'm letting extremists sully her reputation. They're not representing me, they're representing her, so it's on her to stop them if she feels they are not an accurate representation.

Shawnee123 ,, this what I mean.

Muslima 07-12-2007 02:37 PM

xoxoxoBruce,, this will surprise you it was forbidden,
you won't understnad anything because me too didn't understand anything,, when i saw this poem i didn't care,, read it first it contain a hugemeaning,, Read & I'll put it's meaning,, It's just for you,, i know thati'll be murdered,,

WHY IT WAS FORBIDDEN???

Is that this cat,

This probably is cat,

Call her the cat,

it's her way cat,

may happen to you,

let you let you,

I want a spoon,

this is stupid idea,

ask this person cat,

you said busy why,

help her for you,

still want forty cat,

hey wait seconds you,

















xoxoxoBruce,, Read the third word from each line,


aha by the way,, you aren't محترم , when you apologize maybe i can forgive you & tell you it's meaning, & if you didn't i'll tell all the members it's meaning except you,,

Flint 07-12-2007 02:41 PM

That's a gem of a quote.

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<GROUP A> 're not representing <MEMBER OF GROUP B>, <GROUP A> 're representing <GROUP C>, so it's on <MEMBER OF GROUP C> to stop <MEMBER OF GROUP A> if <MEMBER OF GROUP C> feels <GROUP A> are not an accurate representation.

Muslima 07-12-2007 02:48 PM

flint i mean this i don't mean the quote,, i mustn't delete it, so you understand what i mean because you know what am talking about.
Here you are,,,
Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 362688)
Fuck you. You can kiss this kids ass, but I'm not going to sit here and listen to her bitch about how I'm letting extremists sully her reputation.


Shawnee123 07-12-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363222)
if you didn't i'll tell all the members it's meaning except you,,

OMG, you WOULDN'T. The HORRORS. :eek:

Bruce, hang in there. I know you're disappointed. ;)

Pssst, by the way. What's she talking about?

skysidhe 07-12-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Muslima (Post 363222)
xoxoxoBruce,, Read the third word from each line,

Why the games. It dosn't prove anything but a humans ability to distort the truth. It is not proof of the truth to be able to find hidden meanings.

In fact it is EVIL! Bwahaha



Proof=

If any man shall say to you, "Lo, here is Christ," or, "There!," believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. (Matt. 24:23-25)
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a sign from thee." But He answered and said unto them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. But there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah." (Matt. 12:38-39)
In both of these passages, signs and wonders are NOT cast in a good light. Did you notice that? In Matthew 24, Jesus says false prophets will show GREAT signs and wonders in order to deceive. Thus, in that passage, signs and wonders are used as tools for deception. In Matthew 12, Jesus warns against seeking after signs and wonders. Indeed, He says that if you do seek after them, you are committing spiritual adultery.



No worrys though mus...not even the christians know of that scripture.

Muslima 07-12-2007 02:56 PM

disappointed from what :cool:

Muslima 07-12-2007 02:58 PM

skysidhe,,, i think you are too late, did you read the third words???

Muslima 07-12-2007 03:00 PM

when he comes tell me to hide my self quickly :D

skysidhe 07-12-2007 03:01 PM

yes and it dosn't make sense except that it shows you think you have some ability to see things others do not. It is in fact a game play or a religious delusion which was the reason for my post.

jester 07-12-2007 03:09 PM

just out of curiosity is muslima's real name

pete & repete?

Muslima 07-12-2007 03:09 PM

oh come on you know that i don't mean that, he cursed me,, & this is only the way to let him apologize,, by the way it's good trick to know the meaning??

Muslima 07-12-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jester (Post 363237)
just out of curiosity is muslima's real name

pete & repete?

no it isn't my name is Summer

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2007 04:58 PM

I'm not sure if she's a troll or really stupid/naive.... maybe both, considering all the stupid shit she's posted.
It's obvious she thinks she's very clever, getting some people here, to jump through hoops and bend over backwards to kiss her ass.
Probably no clue how really fucking stupid she sounds from her posts. Definitely a minor league bitch.

DanaC 07-12-2007 05:01 PM

Might be a language barrier. She may be finding it difficult to get her humour to translate.

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2007 05:07 PM

She's only laughing at how much more clever she is and finds humor in making you give serious answers to nonsense.


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