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Happy Monkey 02-16-2010 09:10 AM

It's mentioned in the article.

TheMercenary 02-17-2010 08:27 PM

One of the best things Obama could have done...

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Obama to meet with the Dalai Lama
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...,2338647.story

Pie 02-22-2010 09:14 PM

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Urbane Guerrilla 03-02-2010 10:59 AM

Fun pie chart there, Pie.

Here is a take on your Obama Cabinetmember at work. I figure Olberman's part of the Obamanation.

TheMercenary 03-05-2010 05:29 PM

Lies, Lies, and more Kabuki Theater from Obamy.

Today the jobless rate was estimated at 9.6%, that totally biased news program, NPR, stated they continue to underestimate and not count those who have stopped looking (they interviewed a number of these people) and those who are in part time jobs because that is all they can get. The estimate actually is around 16%, btw, 36,000 more people lost their jobs last month...

Redux 03-05-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 639333)
Lies, Lies, and more Kabuki Theater from Obamy.

Today the jobless rate was estimated at 9.6%, that totally biased news program, NPR, stated they continue to underestimate and not count those who have stopped looking (they interviewed a number of these people) and those who are in part time jobs because that is all they can get. The estimate actually is around 16%, btw, 36,000 more people lost their jobs last month...

The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

It considers three factors: 1) those who were not employed during the reference period, 2) those who were available for work at that time and 3) they made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the reference period.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.

So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?

There's a partisan opinion if I ever heard one. :lol:

SamIam 03-05-2010 09:25 PM

@ Pie :D

Griff 03-06-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 639337)
The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

...

The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.
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This bears repeating. While the U6 is more honest, the U3 is what they report and should be used to keep references apples to apples.

Spexxvet 03-06-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 639337)
...So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?
...

In Merc's case, it's bukkake theater.:stickpoke

TheMercenary 03-08-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 639428)
In Merc's case, it's bukkake theater.:stickpoke

Is that your fantasy for your face?

TheMercenary 03-08-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redux (Post 639337)
The unemployment rate announced today is the "official" rate that has been used for years....the U3 rate.

It considers three factors: 1) those who were not employed during the reference period, 2) those who were available for work at that time and 3) they made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the reference period.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

The U6 rate, which is reported as well, has never been the "official" rate, but for political reasons, those on the right want to start using that rate now. What a surprise.

So now its "lies, lies and kabuki theater" to use the same official rate as previous administrations?

There's a partisan opinion if I ever heard one. :lol:

Tell it to the newly 36,000 unemployed last month. :lol: Oh, so funny right? Where are the jobs?

TheMercenary 03-08-2010 08:05 PM

CBO: $10 trillion jump in debt under Obama budget

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- If President Obama's 2011 budget were put into effect as proposed, the U.S. federal government would add an estimated $9.8 trillion to the country's accrued debt over the next decade, according to a preliminary analysis from the Congressional Budget Office.

Of that amount, an estimated $5.6 trillion will be in interest alone.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/05/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

Redux 03-08-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 639730)
Tell it to the newly 36,000 unemployed last month. :lol: Oh, so funny right? Where are the jobs?

The fact remains you were just spewing your usual rhetoric of "lies and more lies by Obama" and once again, you were wrong.

No one likes the job losses except perhaps those who take glee in wanting Obama to fail.

The number of jobs lost has gotten smaller in each of the last 6-8 months.....that is how you turn the economy around...one month at a time...not with a magic bean that goes from losing 779,000 jobs last January (when Obama took office) to the latest numbers.

In fact, with the exception of a few monthly blips, the last two months have had the smallest number of monthly jobs lost in nearly two years.
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/Surv..._view=net_1mth

IMO, that is a good trend and attributable in part to the stimulus program, but we'll never know what the jobs lost would have been w/o the stimulus.

Yznhymr 03-08-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 639754)
The fact remains...

No one likes...

In fact...

IMO...

Where are the facts? What Gov't body has published data to support your comments? IMO??? Really? Your opinion? Means shit.

HOLD IT!!!!! Hold it!!! This is crazy! Why ridicule such a brilliant political commentator? This person is a genius! Everything based on fact from reliable sources and nothing ever based on fallible opinion! I admit it, I am wrong and redux is right! All hail redux! fuck stick

Redux 03-08-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 639739)
CBO: $10 trillion jump in debt under Obama budget

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/05/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

When you like what the CBO reports, you cite it....when you dont, you call it partisan propaganda and a tool of the White House.

:lol:

You cant have it both ways, dude.

I agree the projected debt is not sustainable...but short term deficits in times of deep recession have proven successful in the past.....unless you have a better way to turn the economy around more quickly.

I would certainly hope the 01 and 03 tax cuts for the top bracket are left to expire at the end of this year, as proposed in the original laws.....saving at least $1 trillion over the next 10 years.


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