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jinx 02-27-2010 07:33 PM

I wonder where that is... I'll look for it.

tw 02-27-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 638016)
1. check
2. check
3. no - only thing there is the dvd drive

That says software cannot see the disk drive. Explains why Windows cannot load from the disk drive. Only implies a disk hardware failure. Your previous BIOS tests implied drive hardware was working.

If diagnostics (ie test from the disk drive manufacturer) report the drive hardware defective, then only way to obtain data is to replace electronics on the drive OR a data recovery service OR attempt same with the disk attached to another computer interface.

If diagnostics report disk hardware as good, programs on PTDD, other disk recovery software (ie SpinRite from Gibson Research) or Recovery Console (the windows install cd) probably can restore the disk or recovery data.

mbpark 02-27-2010 07:44 PM

First question I have is: How new is this Vaio? It may have a newer SATA controller that Windows/UBCD may not recognize.

Do you have a USB to SATA drive interface? You may want to get one, plug the drive into it, and use UBCD to see if it can see the drive.

jinx 02-27-2010 07:49 PM

Not new, sept 08

I assume I don't but I'll ask jim...

mbpark 02-27-2010 07:52 PM

The purpose of that test is to see if there's a problem with the onboard SATA controller on the motheboard.

classicman 02-27-2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 637998)
classicman is now in the Technology forum posting more cheap shots and nothing useful or helpful in computer problem. He is doing exactly what Limbaugh and Beck have told him to do. Make things so nasty that the better informed will be hurt, take insult, and not challenge incessant posting and threats from extremists.

Nastiness in the Cellar comes from those who are doing exactly what Limbaugh and Beck encourage them to do. It works because so many remain silent as, for example, classicman attempts to turn another thread nasty.

I made a joke - much like Jim would do, except since Jim is the one with the issue he could not. There was nothing nasty about it.

jinx 02-27-2010 08:28 PM

I can't find the box of disks that came with laptops.... I think the squirrel sold them or something. Jim will find it when he gets home.

Sorry to be incompetent mb, but I appreciate your help.

mbpark 02-27-2010 08:32 PM

That's a piece of hardware
 
The USB to SATA interface is a piece of hardware. It costs like $20 online, and it lets you connect hard drives over USB so you can see if they work, or if it is a problem with the motherboard.

DVD drives usually run off of a different controller. Therefore, the DVD drive working and the hard drive not working can be indicative of a bad controller.

jinx 02-27-2010 08:38 PM

Oh! Yeah, I think Jim and zippy were discussing this option last night. We don't have one unless Jim bought one today.

He works in a different state, I haven't really talked to him yet today...

skysidhe 02-27-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 638017)

It would be interesting to know though, whether your windows install cd gives you the option to try to fix the os.

hopefully

xoxoxoBruce 02-27-2010 09:03 PM

All mine do, they're all from Dell.

Pete Zicato 02-27-2010 09:35 PM

The question is whether the installer will 1) See the hard drive 2) Recognize that there is a previous install on it. If both those things are true, then it might be useful.

If, as mb ponders, it is a controller issue, then the windows install disk would be no use at all.

MB - are the hard drive controllers built into the motherboard on laptops?

lumberjim 02-27-2010 09:36 PM

I can't find the stuff that came with these two computers. and I don't have one of those SATA things.

a note.....

when in the BIOS screen, the Hard drive shows up, but it's grey and not selectable.



i can't find the discs, but zippy found this: http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...NFW140EH&LOC=3

is what I need on there, assuming that's our computer?

mbpark 02-27-2010 09:36 PM

Yes they are, that means if the HD works, you have to either find someone really good at soldering individual chips at a near-microscopic level, or replace the motherboard.

mbpark 02-27-2010 09:37 PM

What does it show for the hard drive in the BIOS screen?


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