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DanaC 07-12-2007 05:10 PM

Maybe. Whatever, she's not exactly fun to interact with:P

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 363223)
That's a gem of a quote.<GROUP A> 're not representing <MEMBER OF GROUP B>, <GROUP A> 're representing <GROUP C>, so it's on <MEMBER OF GROUP C> to stop <MEMBER OF GROUP A> if <MEMBER OF GROUP C> feels <GROUP A> are not an accurate representation.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. What you call A, says they are, and represent, C. Even if you want to call them A, they aren't, they're C. They may not rightfully represent C, but they still are anyway.

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 363272)
Maybe. Whatever, she's not exactly fun to interact with:P

You gave it your best shot, she's not interested.

Muslima 07-12-2007 05:44 PM

xoxoxoBruce ,, you are سوسة & you need كف على وشك,,
Apologize or i'll make you a joke in eastern webs & here too because i'll translate what i said to everyone,, am not a kid to curse me.,,

xoxoxoBruce 07-12-2007 05:51 PM

Go fuck yourself. Translate that, troll.

Muslima 07-12-2007 05:52 PM

DanaC,, give me my quiz first instead of criticizing :P

Muslima 07-12-2007 05:53 PM

don't pretend you don't wanna know,, no no no don't pretend سوسة

Muslima 07-12-2007 05:56 PM

xoxoxoBruce did you like my user title سوسة

DanaC 07-12-2007 06:04 PM

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DanaC,, give me my quiz first instead of criticizing :P
Nah, takes a Pillar of the Cellar community to do the quiz. Lj, Bruce, or Undertoad.

Muslima 07-12-2007 06:07 PM

aha mmmm

lookout123 07-13-2007 12:32 AM

what's with the fucking ragheads? what? oh i'm sorry, that term is offensive? my apologies. is it ok to refer to them as walking explosives?

rkzenrage 07-13-2007 12:43 AM

WTF Muslima?
Are you an apologist for the extremists?
If not, what is your issue?
No one in here has said that they dislike all Muslims, at least not that I have read.
No one said that all Muslims are terrorists, have they?
If not, WTF is your deal?
Someone sprinkle some fiberglass in your undie drawer?

lookout123 07-13-2007 01:43 AM

what the hell do you expect from someone that chooses that as their screen name? it would be unusual if they showed up to look at pictures of labrat's ass. although i guess the 9/11 asshats did spend the night before in a strip club, so...

and you are absolutely right. not all muslims are terrorists. not all arabs are terrorists. just the ones the blow themselves and other people up. and the ones that make excuses for why their dipshit friends strap bombs to themselves.

rkzenrage 07-13-2007 01:46 AM

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if they showed up to look at pictures of labrat's ass.
There's another primary reason?
Let's not get ridiculous!

piercehawkeye45 07-13-2007 01:47 AM

Apparentely Lookout123 just did...

I think Muslima is just tired of getting the stereotype of Muslims = terrorists, whether it was plain site like Lookout123's post or something she takes wrong (majority), and finds it very hard to accept the fact that some extremists do use Islam as an excuse for their agenda. Dillusion is another reason I suspect.

lookout123 07-13-2007 01:49 AM

there haven't been any new postings here so i've been spending my time scouring other bb's looking for labrat's fine little heiney. if you want me to spend more time in the cellar, ya gots ta show the goods.

put it away bruce, i wasn't talking to you.:headshake

xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2007 05:32 AM

You can't handle my heiney.

lumberjim 07-13-2007 09:22 AM

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oh!

glatt 07-13-2007 10:53 AM

Nice work, LJ.

skysidhe 07-13-2007 10:58 AM

oh!

lol cute..... I was wondering why he just reposted that picture.

:lol:

Shawnee123 07-13-2007 11:05 AM

Very clever. You people constantly amaze me!

Flint 07-13-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
They're not representing me, they're representing her, so it's on her to stop them if she feels they are not an accurate representation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
Quote:

<GROUP A> 're not representing <MEMBER OF GROUP B>, <GROUP A> 're representing <GROUP C>, so it's on <MEMBER OF GROUP C> to stop <MEMBER OF GROUP A> if <MEMBER OF GROUP C> feels <GROUP A> are not an accurate representation.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 363274)
I'm not surprised you don't understand. What you call A, says they are, and represent, C. Even if you want to call them A, they aren't, they're C. They may not rightfully represent C, but they still are anyway.

I haven't called anybody anything, you have. I simply quoted your own statement, using generic group titles.

And, you've confirmed my interpretation of your meaning. Thanks for the clarification on that point.

skysidhe 07-13-2007 11:25 AM

Bruce trying to beat Flint with his own logic is like using the blunt end of the knife to the head instead of just using the sharp point and getting right to the heart.


Flint says, "Thanks for the clarification on that point."

Easy for you to say..it hurts my head!

Muslima 07-13-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 363453)
Apparentely Lookout123 just did...

I think Muslima is just tired of getting the stereotype of Muslims.

You are right,

xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2007 04:21 PM

You mean muslims that go around threatening people, like yourself?

xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 363582)
Bruce trying to beat Flint with his own logic is like using the blunt end of the knife to the head instead of just using the sharp point and getting right to the heart.


Flint says, "Thanks for the clarification on that point."

Easy for you to say..it hurts my head!

I have to because Flint never has the balls to come right out and say what he means. It's always some veiled bullshit or stupid cartoons because he's not man enough to take a position on anything, just a shit stirring troll.

Rexmons 07-13-2007 04:37 PM

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUM FLINT!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...2277_image.jpg

skysidhe 07-13-2007 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 363760)
I have to because Flint never has the balls to come right out and say what he means. It's always some veiled bullshit or stupid cartoons because he's not man enough to take a position on anything, just a shit stirring troll.


I know.

HungLikeJesus 07-13-2007 06:39 PM

How come everybody's picking on our man Flint?

Rexmons 07-13-2007 08:02 PM

i like flint, i just really wanted to use that pic.

skysidhe 07-13-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HLJ (Post 363801)
How come everybody's picking on our man Flint?


'Our man' flint?

Why give him a sweeping learning curve?

I've never seen flint stand up for anyone. You want to like him. He wants you to like him. He'll create a circus for you to play in but that's about it. I don't know if anything else is real. I think once when he was somebody else he was real.

lookout123 07-13-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 363453)
Apparentely Lookout123 just did...

I think Muslima is just tired of getting the stereotype of Muslims = terrorists, whether it was plain site like Lookout123's post or something she takes wrong (majority), and finds it very hard to accept the fact that some extremists do use Islam as an excuse for their agenda. Dillusion is another reason I suspect.

i make no bones about it. i've got very little respect for those that run with islam. i spent my time in the middle east a long time ago. fuck 'em. i couldn't care less about hurting their feelings or being PC.

rkzenrage 07-13-2007 10:57 PM

Exactly.
Those doing the things the rest are upset about are hiding in the neighborhoods with all the others.
If they wanted it stopped all they have to do is narc them out, they don't, so they support it.
It IS that simple.
Cowardice is never an excuse, I don't wanna' hear it. It will just make me lose respect for them more.

Flint 07-13-2007 11:11 PM

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...circus...
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Originally Posted by unmanly, no-balled troll
Yes, this is a circus of ideas. We're all trying to connect each other's dots... do you ever get the idea that the process of how those dots get connected is the interesting part? Much like an inkblot test... is the glass half empty or half full? It's all in the eye of the beholder; even the drinking horse will see its own reflection. [/veiled, shit-stirring bullshit] And yet somehow I can still live with myself.


xoxoxoBruce 07-13-2007 11:24 PM

You're the only one posting dots. Everybody else says what they mean.
Even poor delusional muslima has the guts to post her convictions, instead of some bullshit that can be wormed out of later.
Granny did you a great disservice.

skysidhe 07-13-2007 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by unmanly, no-balled troll
Yes, this is a circus of ideas. We're all trying to connect each other's dots... do you ever get the idea that the process of how those dots get connected is the interesting part? Much like an inkblot test... is the glass half empty or half full? It's all in the eye of the beholder; even the drinking horse will see its own reflection. [/veiled, shit-stirring bullshit] And yet somehow I can still live with myself.

People are more than ideas and more than the process.

Address people directly. You don't HAVE to be amusing.

Did you do the inkblot test? Did you comment on the results good or bad?


Don't make me start writing poetry to you to try to get through.:mad2:
( j/k private joke I hope you get)

WabUfvot5 07-14-2007 12:28 AM

It is not uncommon for "moderate" muslims (or even christians for that matter) to provide cover for the fundamentalist extremists in it. This case is exceptionally blatant with all the games. All it does is keep people from real debate and allow things to continue, same as ever.

If Islam is truly a religion of tolerance why is it so hellbent on forcing others to conform to their customs? It is a form of fascism; they want to restrict what you can say about their religion while being free to insult yours. This special status is the first part of Dhimmitude (which led to the extermination of over 300,000 Armenians alone).

rkzenrage 07-14-2007 12:33 AM

That is the REAL question about all religon, why are they so worried about what others are doing?

Flint 07-14-2007 12:44 AM

Human nature is endlessly fascinating to me. What could possibly compel an anonymous stranger to insult my dead grandmother?

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Originally Posted by Flint *Disclaimer: May Contain Sarcasm
It's easier to judge people on the internet, because you can see them as a one-dimensional mockery of an actual human, and that feels good. It feels good to know so much about somebody, to be so astute, like Sherlock Holmes, to be such an expert on the human condition. All it takes is a few keystrokes, and the soul spills forth onto the page. The dark, hidden truths cannot escape the righteous searchlight of this perfect, digital mechanism.

Everything that everyone ever says is just a series of symbolic dots understood to have some connection, which is understood to have some meaning; in this case facilitated exclusively by smallish bits of text, floating in a participative gray area where people's minds attempt to connect, with pitifully little information to go on. Unwittingly projective stabs at mind-reading is what often results in an atmosphere so devoid of meaningful context.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-14-2007 01:09 AM

Cute kitty, but -- "served?":confused:

Urbane Guerrilla 07-14-2007 01:13 AM

Radio host Larry Elder remarked today that he saw "three ways to submit to Islam: you convert, or pay protection money to a bunch of thugs in order to remain a second-class citizen, or you die." You got the impression he was keener on some better choice.

A recent Thomas Friedman column noted that Muslim are taught the primacy and perfection of their revealed faith over all others -- it could be called God 3.0, with Judaism and Christianity being God 1.0 and 2.0. However, something that's likely to upset the passionately devout Muslim is that the societies running God 1.0 and 2.0 all seem to be doing a lot better, and better for a very long time, than the societies running God 3.0 -- more wealth, more success, more intellectual dynamism, more economic dynamism, more global dominance -- now, he asks, if we've got the best version in God 3.0, how come we haven't got all that?

Something that wasn't relevant to Friedman's column was the idea that the Mormons might claim God 4.1 -- God 4.0 being the polygamous edition... imagine how that would stir the pot.

Remarks?

Flint 07-14-2007 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 363904)
Cute kitty, but -- "served?":confused:

Just act like you understand. We have to stick with the theory that I'm the only one posting dots. Since everyone else always says exactly what they mean, it won't work if you don't always understand exactly what they're saying. The possibility that we're all saying what we mean, and only some of us understand each other, and only some of the time, would ruin everything. Must. Stay. Negative. . . . . . . . Try name-calling.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-14-2007 01:51 AM

Fred?

Aloysius?

Dmitri?

Agamemnon?...

skysidhe 07-14-2007 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Flint *Disclaimer: May Contain Sarcasm
It's easier to judge people on the internet, because you can see them as a one-dimensional mockery of an actual human, and that feels good. It feels good to know so much about somebody, to be so astute, like Sherlock Holmes, to be such an expert on the human condition. All it takes is a few keystrokes, and the soul spills forth onto the page.

Gawd, I am trying to feel sorry for you. Then I keep asking myself if there's such a thing as karma because when a person sees it...really sees it....a person's just dumbstruck.:eek6:

Look, I'm only a dork. I just know if I can find toleration so can you.

Clodfobble 07-14-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla
Cute kitty, but -- "served?"

The cat looks like it's hip hop dancing. In some social circles, it is considered a crushing insult to dance better than your opponent, and when this happens the opponent has been "served." See the horrific cinema masterpiece You Got Served for further reference.

We now return you to your regularly-scheduled thread drift.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-14-2007 10:43 AM

Ah. Well, I've been resolutely ignoring hip hop as something unmusical.

HungLikeJesus 07-14-2007 11:23 AM

"Organized Religion is like Organized Crime; it preys on peoples' weakness, generates huge profits for its operators, and is almost impossible to eradicate."
--Mike Hermann (hermann@cs.ubc.ca)

(Coincidently, that was the quote at the bottom of the page when I opened this thread.)

UG -- but, if was unmusical, would people be able to dance to it?

Flint 07-14-2007 04:05 PM

The first classical composition which called for a cymbal and a bass drum to be struck simultaneously was said to be:

"not fit for monkeys to dance to"

WabUfvot5 07-16-2007 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 363905)
Remarks?

I do believe that's the second time I've agreed with something you posted :p

Shawnee123 07-16-2007 07:19 AM

:eyebrow:

What the hell? Now we gotta start beating on each other again?

skysidhe 07-16-2007 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 363965)
Ah. Well, I've been resolutely ignoring hip hop as something unmusical.

exactly

TheMercenary 07-16-2007 11:51 AM

So did Muslima finally blow him/herself up?

Flint 07-16-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 363760)
...Flint never has the balls to come right out and say what he means.
It's always some veiled bullshit or stupid cartoons...

Let the absence of my balls be reflected properly, by the absence of my head:

xoxoxoBruce 07-16-2007 05:38 PM

That's right, they're not.
Just childish crap in place of a substantial contribution.

BrianR 07-16-2007 08:30 PM

May I ask a serious question?

Thank you

Muslims: I do not have a copy of the Koran handy. Please look up and post Chapter 9 Verse 11. Please.

I really want to see if this says what I heard it does.

TheMercenary 07-16-2007 08:33 PM

11. Fa-in taboo waaqamoo alssalata waatawoo alzzakata fa-ikhwanukum fee alddeeni wanufassilu al-ayati liqawmin yaAAlamoona

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/tr...ation/009.html

TheMercenary 07-16-2007 08:36 PM

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kora...V0&byte=282392

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html

Griff 07-16-2007 08:36 PM

Snopes says no.

TheMercenary 07-16-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 364668)
May I ask a serious question?

Thank you

Muslims: I do not have a copy of the Koran handy. Please look up and post Chapter 9 Verse 11. Please.

I really want to see if this says what I heard it does.

What did you think it said. There a number of good sites where you can reverse look up phrases, words, etc.

Here is one:

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/

TheMercenary 07-16-2007 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 364672)
Snopes says no.

Oh, that... yep, urban myth aka BS.


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