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Undertoad 08-01-2016 11:24 AM

The prosecutor who brought this case without evidence is crying foul?

glatt 08-01-2016 11:42 AM

I was worried there were going to be riots in Baltimore again when the charges were dropped against the rest of them, but apparently enough time has passed, or something.

sexobon 08-01-2016 04:09 PM

I read that the cops are suing the prosecutor. Maybe people are afraid the cops will sue rioters too.

Spexxvet 08-02-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 965680)
The prosecutor who brought this case without evidence is crying foul?

No, the prosecutor who was not provided with evidence by the cops who didn't want their brethren prosecuted. That one.

Undertoad 08-02-2016 08:20 AM

Sounds like the same one

http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...omist-explains

Clodfobble 08-02-2016 09:16 AM

Were there body cameras in the Freddie Gray case? I can't remember.

sexobon 08-03-2016 12:06 AM

They only wear body cams in police vans when they're doin' carpool karaoke.

Big Sarge 08-03-2016 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 965679)
Sarge, did you watch "Making a Murderer"?

I am somewhat familiar with the case, but I haven't watched the series.

Big Sarge 08-03-2016 07:16 AM

Spexxvet - I see you still continue to cry foul. Please gift us with the evidence you have that illustrates criminal actions by these officers.

In three trials, Judge Williams, who is black and who successfully prosecuted cases of police misconduct for eight years in the justice department of the United States, questioned the assumption that the officers’ actions constituted criminal activity. He ruled each time that the criminal allegations were not supported by the evidence: in contrast to a shooting or stabbing, either of which would produce an obvious wound, Mr Gray's neck injury was internal and hidden from view, making it difficult for police to recognise. Like the case of Schrödinger’s ill-fated cat in the box, there is no telling exactly what happened to Mr Gray inside the police van, only speculative and “equally plausible scenarios.” And there is no proof that any of the officers meant to endanger or harm Mr Gray, nor that they knowingly denied him necessary medical care.

Spexxvet 08-03-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 965816)
Spexxvet - I see you still continue to cry foul. Please gift us with the evidence you have that illustrates criminal actions by these officers.

Just putting him in a van, handcuffed, without restraint is criminal

ETA: Can you imagine if a civilian did that to an off duty cop?

Big Sarge 08-03-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 965820)
Just putting him in a van, handcuffed, without restraint is criminal

ETA: Can you imagine if a civilian did that to an off duty cop?

Please state the criminal statute and the punishment for said offense. I want to see what you is driving your desire to ruin these officers' lives, wreck the criminal justice system, and cause civil unrest.

Big Sarge 08-03-2016 10:02 AM

Here's Freddie Gray's arrest record. I don't have his prison, probation, and parole periods.

March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)

Big Sarge 08-03-2016 10:23 AM

I know this is 3 posts in a row for me, but I need to put this out. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we can't be friends. I realize we've grown up in different parts of the country, have different life experiences, and different levels of education. If I huff and puff in here, it doesn't mean I don't like you. Heck, I really respect and like Dr Dana even though I think she is liberal without a clue of what is really going on over here. Dana, no disrespect intended you were simply a quick liberal reference

Happy Monkey 08-03-2016 10:57 AM

Bringing up oppo research on the victim seems like a justification for injuring him, rather than support for the claim that there was no intent to injure him.

Undertoad 08-03-2016 10:59 AM

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Freddie Gray's arrest record
Is it interesting to note that, if there is no war on drugs, this is reduced to (if not further)

March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
September 28, 2013: Second-degree assault, second-degree escape

If there is no war on drugs he is sentenced and serves realistically for these crimes, since that's what society then focuses on, and he is not around to be arrested again.


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