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xoxoxoBruce 08-14-2014 02:07 PM

I question whether a cracked bushing and translate to broken mount. Even so, it's not unsafe, and he's really stretching it to drum up business. Even considering overhead, taxes, insurance, and possible liability, the quoted price shows a large profit motive.

Clodfobble 08-14-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
That's crazy clod, I'd go off on her. (assuming it's her, not sexist, but most are her)

The thing is, this really does happen to me all the time, at a variety of businesses. Maybe I have the kind of face/voice that makes people think I want to dictate my appointments and nothing less will suffice? I almost never have people suggest appointment times they have available; they all ask what I want and then have to tell me "no" repeatedly.

xoxoxoBruce 08-14-2014 09:33 PM

Maybe your voice reminds them of the cartoons they loved and they drift off. ;)

glatt 08-16-2014 02:12 PM

It's beyond irritating me now. I replaced the engine mount. All proud of myself that it only took 20 minutes. I was tightening up the last bolt, using the torque wrench to do it perfectly. And the damn bolt snapped. It felt pretty tight to me, but the wrench hadn't clicked yet, so I kept tightening. Then there was a big click as the MF snapped on me.

Either the torque wrench is calibrated wrong or I'm using it wrong. But it worked perfectly on the first bolt.

So I've been to two car parts stores and one hardware store and can't find a bolt that fits. I'm pretty sure it's a non-standard M9 1.25 pitch bolt. So I finally gave in and went to the dealership to order a new bolt. It will be here Tuesday.

Four hours into this damn project so far, and the car is now disabled until the new bolt gets here.

Lesson learned: screw the torque wrench. Just follow my gut and tighten with a regular wrench.

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2014 04:24 PM

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Either the torque wrench is calibrated wrong or I'm using it wrong. But it worked perfectly on the first bolt.
Nope, can't make that assumption.
Some bolts, as designated by the manufacturer of the car, are not to be reused, the service manual should tell you which.
That bolt could have been over-torqued by the factory on anywhere along the way, causing it to be sub standard.
The bolt has been around a long time, nobody know the trouble it's see.
A burr or foreign material can cause binding which would require more force to overcome than the bolt is rated for.
Most nuts and bolts are oily enough to prevent galling, even though they look shiny clean. It can gall in a fraction of a revolution, and when it does you're generally screwed, not being able to move the bolt in either directing without breaking it.

Did you get the snapped bolt out?

glatt 08-16-2014 06:23 PM

Yeah. I got it out. It was sticking out the other side of the welded on nut, so I grabbed it by the threads with vice grips, which are a hand tool, ;) and was able to keep it going forward all the way out the other side. Good thing too, because it snapped inside the new mount, and I wouldn't have been able to get at it from that side.

xoxoxoBruce 08-16-2014 10:02 PM

It was hard to turn, snapped off, then the part inside didn't take a lot of torque to turn with the vicegrips (a hand tool of undetermined handedness)?

That would rule out galling and a burr or foreign material binding.

glatt 08-17-2014 07:11 AM

Yeah. It was very easy to turn with vice grips. I over tightened it with the torque wrench and it broke. The wrench should have prevented that from happening.

The only difference between this bolt and the first successful bolt was that this bolt was horizontal and the other was vertical.

Does a clicking torque wrench not work in some positions? Seems crazy to me.

xoxoxoBruce 08-17-2014 04:26 PM

No, any position. It can be affected buy using the off hand to support it by holding the head, but we're talking maybe a ft lb or two, nothing critical in most applications. It could be a wrench malfunction, but I'd be more inclined to suspect the bolt was defective or had been damaged somewhere along the line. At some point it might have been over torqued.

When a bolt is tightened first it stretches. On steam chest bolts we'd measure how much the cover bolts stretched until it reached a predetermined length, because it was too difficult to measure torque accurately on six inch diameter bolts.

Next the bolt reaches it's yield point. At the yield point the weakest section of the bolt stretches a little as it relieves some of the built up tension. That stretching(yielding), causes that point to grow slightly smaller in diameter. The manufacturers use some torque-to-yield bolts these days, hence bolts which can't be reused. The manuals identify those.

After it reaches the yield point, if you keep twisting, that weak point is where it will snap.

infinite monkey 08-21-2014 09:18 AM

The barely dressed-up insult. Irritating. Insult me and incur my wrath or shut the fuck up. Pick a side of the fence.

infinite monkey 08-21-2014 09:19 AM

And word ass. It never fails to irritate me that people will log in just to add a word to word ass.

dog

cat

rat

mouse

That's some clever fucking shit right there.

lumberjim 08-21-2014 10:30 AM

Poop!

infinite monkey 08-21-2014 10:32 AM

pooh

lumberjim 08-22-2014 07:49 AM

Piglet

Big Sarge 08-22-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 907097)
He said I got a purty heid. :D

That's kinda creepy, actually......:unsure:

Do you use a lot of moisturizing lotion? It really helps later. I'm glad to see LJ is making a skin suit too

DanaC 08-22-2014 08:21 AM

My shoulder is really hurting. Oww.

According to the xray I had a few weeks ago (forgot to mention on here at the time) I have calcific tendonitis. Which, for the uninitiated, hurts like buggery.

Currently having a flareup and it's making everything seem like harder work than it is.

Gravdigr 08-22-2014 01:38 PM

About a two years ago a good buddy of mine had a mild heart attack. A bypass was done. The he began having problems with his lower leg, where they had taken the vein with which to perform the bypass. At least 3 operations on the leg, I don't know how many times he passed out because they couldn't get the blood thinner dosages right, many months off from work, pain, frustration and more pain.

The docs took his leg off three inches above the knee yesterday morning.

We all about half expected him to not let them take it. He's a very stubborn man, makes his living moving gigantic factory machinery, and the kind you might expect to choose dying over losing a leg.

His wife told me he never said but one word when they presented the scenario to him: Alright.

That's not my buddy. I'm afraid he's giving up.

glatt 08-22-2014 01:42 PM

Shit. I'd miss having a leg.

Griff 08-22-2014 01:49 PM

Damn straight.

Big Sarge 08-22-2014 01:50 PM

prayers sent for your friend, gravdigr

Gravdigr 08-22-2014 02:28 PM

Thanks Sarge. I'll pass them along tomorrow morning.

Clodfobble 08-23-2014 07:25 AM

That sucks, Grav. Sorry about your friend.

Sundae 08-28-2014 11:35 AM

Very mild irritation for me.
Felt like something was crawling over my foot quite a few times today.
Looked to check for insects, flies, cotton from my trousers.

Eventually sat in the sun and there stuck in my flip flop was a little hair. And it's def mine because it's pink. Thank goodness the sun came out properly and it glinted or I'd have scratched myself raw - it had somehow got twisted round a sequin.

Sorry about your friend Grav. That's a shit deal.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 02:37 PM

I'm home from work today due to a bad cold.

There is a beep noise coming from my household. It beeps every 20-30 minutes.

I have no clue what is doing this beeping. I've ruled out several rooms, but it's difficult to triangulate from where I normally sit at my computer. I keep ruling things out: it's not the dehumidifier, it's not the laptop, it's not coming from the kitchen.

infinite monkey 10-06-2014 02:40 PM

smoke detector?
carbon monoxide detector?

Undertoad 10-06-2014 02:45 PM

This is possible but shouldn't they beep every 30 seconds if they are low on battery? I tested the CO2 detector and it makes a much different sound than this beep.

monster 10-06-2014 03:11 PM

for me it's usually a stopwatch or one of the kids' cellphones or ipods. old cellphone? fancy flashdrive?

Gravdigr 10-06-2014 03:17 PM

Oh, man, I can't stand that shit. That would absolutely drive me insane.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 03:28 PM

Old cellphone is off, and has a dead battery as well

I bet this is going to turn out to be a dying battery issue with something that doesn't have to report a dead battery. The beep is not annoying, like smoke detectors are. It's a simple sine wave beep and is very short.

Because this house has open vents between the floors, through which the sound travels, this could be anywhere!

Carruthers 10-06-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 911283)

Because this house has open vents between the floors, through which the sound travels, this could be anywhere!

Separate utility room?

Freezer alarm or washing machine perhaps?

Undertoad 10-06-2014 03:49 PM

I switched off the washer about a half hour ago. The beep just happened as I was writing this.

Isn't the drama.... mildly irritating?

Griff 10-06-2014 04:18 PM

You'll prolly have to burn the house.

Sump or septic alarm?

Undertoad 10-06-2014 04:21 PM

Nope, no sump, and if there was an alarm for the septic it should have burnt out by now.

Keep the ideas comin'!

sexobon 10-06-2014 05:36 PM

With my smoke detectors, it may initially be 10-15 minutes between "chirps" indicating a low battery. It can be a nuisance waiting for the next chirp to tell which detector it is; so, I twist them off their base mountings as I would to change the battery and I put them all next to me for awhile, some to my left and others to my right until one of them chirps again. If it continues to do the same with a fresh battery, the life of the unit's sensor is probably up and the detector needs to be replaced. Battery backup units beep intermittently when the electricity is out; but, some will also beep when their rechargeable battery is no longer holding a sufficient charge and needs to be replaced. If you have something like an APC battery backup for your cable modem and Wi-Fi router and those are in another part of the house, you might check that too.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 05:51 PM

I have ruled out two smoke detectors. I have also ruled out the entry room.

This time I made a note of when the beeps occurred

6:17

6:32

6:47

Aha. At 7:02 I hope to have another data point.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 06:03 PM

I have ruled out upstairs.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 06:19 PM

I have ruled out the tablet.

John Adams 10-06-2014 06:39 PM

Hearing aid?

orthodoc 10-06-2014 06:41 PM

I have spent an entire weekend ruling out alarms as a beep resounded through the house every 120 seconds. I disconnected every smoke and CO alarm and the beeps continued. In the end it was a fading rechargeable battery, as sexobon suggests.

My sympathy.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 07:19 PM

Suspicions have moved to the UPS right under my feet

Undertoad 10-06-2014 07:36 PM

Ruled out. Now under suspicion is the smoke detector that was right above my head and I didn't notice it.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 07:47 PM

That's ruled out and the beep came a minute early this time.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 08:05 PM

FOUND IT. Verizon FIOS battery.

Undertoad 10-06-2014 08:31 PM

It's $50 to replace this battery. Now you have to understand what the battery is for, because this is part of this. I'm mildly annoyed, so YOU will be mildly annoyed.

In the olden days, the phone company had batteries in their central offices which would provide voltage to your phone. If your phone could ring, it had power coming to it.

But if you have FIOS coming to your house, it's fiber. It's not copper. It doesn't conduct electricity. It only carries data.

Lucky your voice can be converted to data, and it only takes a fraction of a percentage of a high speed FIOS connection to transmit the voice part. So that's what they do now, they do the conversion in a box somewhere in your house.

However this means that your old phones will no longer work, because they don't get power from the central office. The solution: put a battery in your house to provide power to your phones.

Sneakily the phone company puts a 1 year warranty on these batteries and so you will eventually have to pay that $50 for voltage these assholes used to provide gratis.

Now me, I ordered phone service and never used it, so I will cancel my phone service and remove the need for this battery. But I'll bet they won't come out to remove it. No, that would be a service call. It's too much.

I have found a youtube procedure for disconnecting the battery temporarily, and this is supposed to stop the beep for about a month.

monster 10-06-2014 08:42 PM

Something just beeped in my kitchen while I was cooking. I blame you, Undertoad.

infinite monkey 10-06-2014 08:54 PM

Beepapalooza!

sexobon 10-06-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 911307)
... Sneakily the phone company puts a 1 year warranty on these batteries and so you will eventually have to pay that $50 for voltage these assholes used to provide gratis. ...

Yeahbut, they gave you an acoustic field rotator for free!

xoxoxoBruce 10-07-2014 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 911307)
In the olden days, the phone company had batteries in their central offices which would provide voltage to your phone. If your phone could ring, it had power coming to it.

But they moved on to power coming from a transformer on the pole instead of those wimpy batteries. I ran into phone lines carrying 110VDC in Texas. What a surprise arcing that sumbitch to the aluminum trainer. :eek:

Quote:

Sneakily the phone company puts a 1 year warranty on these batteries and so you will eventually have to pay that $50 for voltage these assholes used to provide gratis.
Tons of cheaper options on the net, and with clodfobble's link you can get a nice one from Amazon.
I bought one and then realized nobody calls me anyway, so it didn't get installed.;)

Aliantha 10-07-2014 04:48 AM

Eva is going through issues with bedtime the last couple of nights. Not really sure why, but she's really starting to irritate me.

Gravdigr 10-07-2014 03:54 PM

beep

monster 10-07-2014 08:40 PM

lol

Aliantha 10-08-2014 12:41 AM

No nap for her today. Let's see how she likes them apples at bed time!

glatt 10-08-2014 07:46 AM

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Good luck Ali. Hope it works.

Mildly irritating me this morning is that pop-up ads have made the transition to meat space. And there's no effective ad blocker. Clicking doesn't even get rid of them. You have to scrape and peel.
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Fuckin' Bezos.

DanaC 10-08-2014 08:53 AM

I can see that would be irritating.

Gravdigr 10-08-2014 02:30 PM

I don't read the newspaper very often, but, yeah, I hate that shit.

Aliantha 10-08-2014 03:50 PM

No problem at bedtime last night. Thank goodness.

DanaC 10-08-2014 04:31 PM

Yey:)

Aliantha 10-08-2014 06:04 PM

Yes, it would have been terrible to have to call the police on myself. lol

infinite monkey 10-10-2014 05:53 PM

My knee. Old basketball injury (not football injury as my nephew joked.) I had the meniscus cartilage removed my freshman year of college. I was informed I might have issues later with arthritis. Well, it ain't so much it's been hurting, it's just that it 'gives out' while I'm walking normally. And it sounds and feels crunchy inside, I can make it crunch by straightening it out or by pushing on my kneecap area. I think I did something while I was doing some intensive cleaning and moving furniture around (by myself, natch.)

So I bought a good stabilizer today. I'm hoping that the problem will work itself out. It's not like I haven't had some issues over the past 30 years, but it usually works itself out. I'm trying to avoid the doctor who will probably recommend some sort of surgery and I just don't want to do that. Imma DIY for a while.

The brace is helping though. I can walk around carefully and not be afraid of that 'giving out' feeling.

I need to get a job. That job is looking more and more like factory. I don't mind that. But I can't do it if I am hobbling around like some post-Annie James Caan.

Old. Old I am. And I need to drop some poundage. Maybe I should get back on the hormones.

ugh...

Griff 10-10-2014 06:26 PM

One of my fencing buddies, who is carrying a lot of extra weight tore his meniscus. He had some kind of procedure but the swelling is still pretty bad. Looks like he'll end up getting an MRI despite all the PT. Non-functional knees are the suck.


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