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Undertoad 03-15-2006 12:00 PM

3/15/2006: Water Bears, the world's toughest animal
 
http://cellar.org/2006/tardigrade.png

Oh man, what if this thing was comin' straight for ya! Too bad you wouldn't notice it - the biggest one would be a millimeter and a half in size, and you'd probably find it on a lichen or moss.

AxlRosen suggests this item. The "water bear" is more properly called a "tartigrade", and it was blogged about last week by Notes from the Technology Underground. I never heard of it before, but this thing is amazing. As blogger Bill Gurstelle writes:
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Now here's the thing I really like about tartigrades. They are apparently the World's Toughest Animal. You can shoot them into space, take them to the deepest ocean depths and let them go, deprive them of air, water, and food for years and they don't care. Send them into the core of nuclear reactor. They'll be fine.
Then he posts the Wikipedia link for the little dudes, where there are more amazing facts. They can hang out at 150 degrees C, or close to absolute zero. They found a living one that had been hibernating for 120 years.

Enh. I'm not impressed. Name me one tartigrade that's won the Nobel prize.

Trilby 03-15-2006 12:05 PM

umm...these things live on lichen or moss, right? not on people, right? Right?!

xant 03-15-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Enh. I'm not impressed. Name me one tartigrade that's won the Nobel prize.

Not yet. These things will outlive the cockroaches, and when they do, the speciesist Nobel committee will no longer be an issue.

Pancake Man 03-15-2006 08:02 PM

Bet he can't survive a lecture by my English teacher...

xoxoxoBruce 03-15-2006 08:14 PM

I spent 20 minutes looking at a bunch of sites. The color pictures show them bright red, but they can be orange or green, they have one gonad, they live everywhere and they'll withstand 5700 grays of x-ray radiation. (Five grays would be fatal to a human).
But nobody says what they eat?:confused:

AureliusVin 03-15-2006 08:24 PM

Damn, you think you could get one of these guys at a local pet shop? I'd pay a fine price for a little colony of tartigrades.

xoxoxoBruce 03-15-2006 08:27 PM

They're free! And they're everywhere.:D

jojo 03-15-2006 08:30 PM

don't they look all rubbery and squishy like they're filled with stretch armstrong gunk?

wolf 03-15-2006 09:13 PM

Thank you for making them just that little bit more disturbing. Good job.

jojo 03-15-2006 09:26 PM

how come they get to have 7 fingers and we only get 5. :eyebrow:

Elspode 03-15-2006 11:41 PM

We were given dual gonads as compensation. That, and we aren't quite as fucking ugly as that thing.

Can you grow these any bigger?

Beestie 03-15-2006 11:50 PM

Whatever we do, let's not piss them off.

seakdivers 03-16-2006 12:44 AM

I'm pretty sure that they feed off of people named Bri.....ooooh wait....

:)

ashke 03-16-2006 02:18 AM

Someone must have tried really hard to kill them to
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shoot them into space, take them to the deepest ocean depths and let them go, deprive them of air, water, and food for years

Skunks 03-16-2006 02:22 AM

How is it that this is defined as an "animal" instead of some other term that more aptly implies "teeny little critter"? Don't we have terms like "insect" and "bug" and others that more fit that size bracket?

& If the distinction isn't one of size but of component parts & makeup, then is this also remarkable in that it is much closer in bodily function to the things that come to mind when you say "animal" -- mammals, reptiles, birds and such -- than with insects?

tippy 03-16-2006 03:27 AM

its a beastybob!

tw 03-16-2006 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo
how come they get to have 7 fingers and we only get 5. :eyebrow:

Its in the Bible. God only knew how to count to seven. Later, when he created man, God learned the advantage of five - such as a five day work week.

Trilby 03-16-2006 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tw
Its in the Bible. God only knew how to count to seven. Later, when he created man, God learned the advantage of five - such as a five day work week.

In the Bible, Book of Armaments, (and, I quote) "five is right out!"

I thought God liked the number three. No more, no less.

Happy Monkey 03-16-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunks
How is it that this is defined as an "animal" instead of some other term that more aptly implies "teeny little critter"? Don't we have terms like "insect" and "bug" and others that more fit that size bracket?

Insects are animals.

barefoot serpent 03-16-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
The color pictures show them bright red, but they can be orange or green

those are the tarted-up tartigrades:D

jinx 03-16-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
But nobody says what they eat?:confused:

From http://152.2.81.1/parkproject/harp/C...rade_page.html Tartigrades feed upon detritus and fresh plant material. Some are predatory on smaller invertebrates.

Elspode 03-16-2006 10:21 AM

Aren't animals pretty much any living thing that isn't a plant?

Happy Monkey 03-16-2006 10:29 AM

Or a fungus, protist, or moneran.

jinx 03-16-2006 10:29 AM

http://www.sidwell.edu/us/science/vl...arya/Animalia/ Kingdom Animalia Kingdom Animalia is one of four kingdoms in the Domain Eukarya. It is distinct from the other three kingdoms, Plantae, Fungi, and Protista, in several ways. Animalia are multicellular, while most Protista (excepting the multicellular algae, which are plant-like) are unicellular. Heterotrophism separates the animals and fungi from plants, and the lack of cell walls in animal cells makes them distinct from fungi. Animals also possess several other unique features. These include interior digestion of food, possession of a digestive tract where hydrolytic enzymes are secreted and digestion takes place, and special cell junctions in their tissues.

binky 03-16-2006 12:56 PM

What a shame these things weren't commonly known in the 1950s-what a cool creature for one of those cheesy sci-fi movies where radiation makes something gigantic!

binky 03-16-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AureliusVin
Damn, you think you could get one of these guys at a local pet shop? I'd pay a fine price for a little colony of tartigrades.

My ten year old learned about these last year and would LOVE a bunch of these

tw 03-16-2006 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
I thought God liked the number three. No more, no less.

He be three. A number reserved only for God ... and human equivalents - Olympic metal winners.

Yes I remember my indoctrination well - including all answers to why bears have seven digits. We only need consult the bible and God's chosen presidents.

capnhowdy 03-16-2006 07:57 PM

It looks to me like the top left extremity has eight "fingers". Could be the arthritis medicine.

Kagen4o4 03-16-2006 08:14 PM

what about kryptonite?

jojo 03-16-2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy
It looks to me like the top left extremity has eight "fingers". Could be the arthritis medicine.

even worse! i bet cap'n hook has claw envy.;)

jojo 03-16-2006 10:56 PM

"They are apparently the World's Toughest Animal. You can shoot them into space, take them to the deepest ocean depths and let them go, deprive them of air, water, and food for years and they don't care. Send them into the core of nuclear reactor. They'll be fine."

But have they tried throwing them into a z machine? ooh, maybe they're the ones running the machine...:worried:

Crimson Ghost 03-17-2006 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
We aren't quite as fucking ugly as that thing.

Speak for yourself.

I've seen some fugly people, and my ex-bosses wife looks something like that.

Uryoces 03-17-2006 02:13 PM

I for one welcome our tartigrade overlords...

Wait. This isn't Slashdot.

xoxoxoBruce 03-17-2006 06:59 PM

Hey Uryoces, welcome back.:D
Tartigrade Overlords?

axlrosen 03-17-2006 09:34 PM

To me, these things look like a cross between a bear, a pig, a piece of ginger, and Freddy Kreuger.

johningerslev 03-20-2006 06:36 AM

ok, if you were scared of them before, i went looking for videos.http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/...earvideo2.html
how can something so tough be SEETHROUGH????

Kitsune 03-20-2006 08:21 AM

http://static.flickr.com/22/29936622_adadd0808d.jpg

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johningerslev
ok, if you were scared of them before, i went looking for videos.http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/...earvideo2.html
how can something so tough be SEETHROUGH????

Wow, that's very cool. 1.06 meg video download.:thumb:

philgump 03-21-2006 01:37 PM

LIVING SWEETS?
 
They think that video makes them look like living sweets, I knew Brit food was bad but really. :worried:

philgump 03-21-2006 01:39 PM

Hmmm
 
You know with all the things they DID try to kill these things did they think of squishing them with a pencil eraser. I bet that does em in.

jojo 03-21-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johningerslev
ok, if you were scared of them before, i went looking for videos.http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/...earvideo2.html
how can something so tough be SEETHROUGH????

that was so VERY COOL! they are cute li'l guys when you see the way they move

jojo 03-21-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Hey Uryoces, welcome back.:D
Tartigrade Overlords?

dang it - i tried doing that with the z machine but i suck at photoshop:lol:
just don't let them start reciting poetry...

richlevy 03-21-2006 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo
dang it - i tried doing that with the z machine but i suck at photoshop:lol:
just don't let them start reciting poetry...

Well, that would make them 'smarter than the average bear'.

Hey BooBoo!

skysidhe 04-09-2006 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo
don't they look all rubbery and squishy like they're filled with stretch armstrong gunk?

:lol: It does look like armstrong gunk!


So people actually get paid to do those experiments to that poor thing you need a microscope to see??

Not fair all the fun stuff requires a degree of doctor- ish
porportions. :p

footfootfoot 05-06-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx
http://www.sidwell.edu/us/science/vl...arya/Animalia/ Kingdom Animalia Kingdom Animalia is one of four kingdoms in the Domain Eukarya. It is distinct from the other three kingdoms, Plantae, Fungi, and Protista, in several ways. Animalia are multicellular, while most Protista (excepting the multicellular algae, which are plant-like) are unicellular. Heterotrophism separates the animals and fungi from plants, and the lack of cell walls in animal cells makes them distinct from fungi. Animals also possess several other unique features. These include interior digestion of food, possession of a digestive tract where hydrolytic enzymes are secreted and digestion takes place, and special cell junctions in their tissues.


jinx is so hot when she gets all science teacher-y on us.

But seriously, thanks for the clarification, I somehow forgot all that.

Even MORE SERIOUSLY: Who would win in a cage match? Tartigrade or BSE Prion?

I see a pay per view opportunity for the cellar...

aliasyzy 05-07-2006 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo
But have they tried throwing them into a z machine? ooh, maybe they're the ones running the machine...:worried:

If they could go through Z machine(2,000,000,000 K), they might survive in the sun.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060313.html

xoxoxoBruce 05-07-2006 10:27 AM

Now you're just trying to scare us.

Welcome to the Cellar, aliasyzy. :D

aliasyzy 05-08-2006 07:38 AM

Maybe they are alien embryos from far far universe, waiting for a chance to parasitize and enslave us. :cool:
Fox Mulder: (Nod, Nod) The truth is out there.

The Cellar is fantastic.
Nice to meet you, Bruce.:lol:

Kagen4o4 05-08-2006 10:32 PM

maybe theyre a little ahead of humans in evolution. considering that just about anything kills us


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