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thrillhouse 03-23-2006 05:00 PM

Celebacy or Hot Meaningless Sex
 
please discuss. i need voices outside of my head for perspective.

thrillhouse 03-23-2006 05:04 PM

somethin' has gotta give. i can't even spell celibacy. at first, it looked like celery. i thought, okay. posted my thread/poll. then, i realized. . . not okay. just to clarify. . . this thread is not about being vegetarian.

Trilby 03-23-2006 05:31 PM

If my choices are celibacy or hot, meaningless sex, I'm going with the sex. Sex is good for you, good for your brain, good for your body and good for your mood. It's positively engergizing! :doit:

marichiko 03-23-2006 05:41 PM

I'll take celibacy. I tried doing the hot, meaningless sex thing and ended up falling in love with the ax murderer. BLECH! Next time around, I want to fall for a man's brain, not his balls. But that's just my own sadder but wiser experience. :headshake

thrillhouse 03-23-2006 06:17 PM

ladies, i appreciate both points of view. not only appreciate, but i feel exactely the way you both do.

that's the dilemma. :whtblk:

jojo 03-23-2006 07:27 PM

i would guess that after a few encounters, the sex would become much less hot if there was no meaning. as humans we need connection, not just physically but emotionally. but on the other hand, lack of human touch is dangerous emotionally, too. so there you have it: i don't know.:neutral:

jojo 03-23-2006 07:33 PM

ok, i've thought about it some more, go for the celibacy because you don't feel dirty afterwords and you don't have to hide that goofy smile all day!:D

xoxoxoBruce 03-23-2006 07:46 PM

I like goofy smiles.:blush:

capnhowdy 03-23-2006 08:01 PM

I couldn't vote. I was torn. Why not have both? :doit:

Kagen4o4 03-23-2006 08:02 PM

hot meaningless sex. i have friends to have meaningful relationships with without sex.
if i wasnt having sex the only thing i would be able to think about would be having hot sex whether it was meaningful or not.

jojo 03-23-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I like goofy smiles.:blush:

:blush: was that flirting a little with me? i changed my mind again SEX SEX -- I MEANT TO SAY SEX!:biggrinlo:

Clodfobble 03-23-2006 10:08 PM

If it's definitely hot meaningless sex, then I vote for the sex. But to me, meaningless sex has almost (note I said almost) always been the exact opposite of hot.

Hubris Boy 03-23-2006 11:06 PM

<p>Celibacy. Without a doubt. It's not nearly as much fun, sure, but it's a lot cheaper and a LOT less complicated.<br>
Did anybody notice that "celibate" is on the same page as "cellar" in the dictionary? Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not...</p>

thrillhouse 03-23-2006 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubris Boy
Did anybody notice that "celibate" is on the same page as "cellar" in the dictionary? Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not...

ye gads boy!. . . . am i to be neutered as penance for posting here? ;)

Kagen4o4 03-23-2006 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrillhouse
ye gads boy!. . . . am i to be neutered as penance for posting here? ;)

well...yes.
:nadkick:

thrillhouse 03-23-2006 11:43 PM

as long as i get to keep my dog. i'm good to go.

marichiko 03-24-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubris Boy
<p>Celibacy. Without a doubt. It's not nearly as much fun, sure, but it's a lot cheaper and a LOT less complicated.<br>
Did anybody notice that "celibate" is on the same page as "cellar" in the dictionary? Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not...</p>

Oh, Hubris Boy! You're back! Post something nasty on my computer screen, baybee! :rattat: :shocking: :speechls: :eyeball: :eyeball: :bolt:

wolf 03-24-2006 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrillhouse
as long as i get to keep my dog. i'm good to go.

If you have hot, meaningless sex with your dog, he'll still respect you in the morning, because you have opposable thumbs and can operate the can opener.

Gromitspapa 03-24-2006 12:40 AM

Opposable thumbs help make for hot, meaningless sex, though...

Kagen4o4 03-24-2006 02:42 AM

yeah! this one time I.....oh wait....I better not say that

thrillhouse 03-24-2006 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gromitspapa
Opposable thumbs help make for hot, meaningless sex, though...

how YOU doin?

yesman065 03-24-2006 07:38 AM

I'm always in for hot sex, but the meaningless part just kills it for me - I feel like I need to have that connection with someone I'm intimate with and as some of you know from my prior posts the sex just for sex thing didn't really work out so well for me.

glatt 03-24-2006 09:33 AM

I've never had hot meaningless sex. Never really wanted to. But who knows, maybe I would have liked it if I tried it.

On the other hand, hot meaningful sex is awesome. :love:

Does celibacy mean no self-pleasuring? Celibacy would be the clear choice for me as long as that was still allowed. But if not, then I'm not sure what I would choose. Neither one is desirable to me.

Brett's Honey 03-24-2006 12:20 PM

Well, I see it's almost a tie so far, so no real answer for thrillhouse yet, but I cast a vote for the sex. It is good for you. When I went quite a while - almost 2 years between relationships I did have a "fuckbuddy", for good, hot, but comfortable sex. I think it may have helped keep me from jumping into a relationship that I really didn't want or need.

Elspode 03-24-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
I tried doing the hot, meaningless sex thing and ended up falling in love with the ax murderer.

Umm...there's a flaw in this. If you fell in love, then you ascribed meaning to the sex, therefore, it was no longer meaningless, and became outside of the terms of this particular poll.

I'm not saying that I wouldn't have done the same thing, I'm just pointing out that, once you fall in love, the sex is no longer meaningless, and then you're *really* screwed.

barefoot serpent 03-24-2006 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marichiko
love with the ax murderer.

It's better to have loved and lost (an arm), than to have never loved at all.:p

thrillhouse 03-24-2006 02:35 PM

bleak baby. . . . real bleak :eek: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11981858/

jojo 03-24-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesman065
I'm always in for hot sex, but the meaningless part just kills it for me - I feel like I need to have that connection with someone I'm intimate with and as some of you know from my prior posts the sex just for sex thing didn't really work out so well for me.

did you smile and feel exuberant the next day? or did you feel uneasy?

for all of us women out there-how can you ever have meaningless sex? i don't fit the needy or over-nurturing stereotypes that are sometimes associated with women and i don't think many of the women here do either, but i don't think i would be capable of "meaningless" sex. i would invariably feel a connection, or at the very least imagine that he does. while basking in the glow, i know i would take some part of it to heart. and no matter how little emotional connection i felt with the guy, i WOULD be hurt if i thought it was completely meaningless to him.
Brett's Honey, are you sure it was meaningless for your "fbuddy" (can't get myself to write it!:blush: ) cuz if it was meaningless to you, but not your partner, then it was possibly...hurtful?
methinks me overthinks everything!

Kagen4o4 03-24-2006 05:35 PM

who here wants some meaningless sex?

Elspode 03-25-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrillhouse
bleak baby. . . . real bleak :eek: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11981858/

So these women stop taking their antidepressants (which curtail libido and response in many women), then become constantly aroused? Egad.

Mrs. Parker 03-25-2006 03:30 PM

I love, love, love sex, but I must choose celibacy. Never really could thoroughly enjoy meaningless sex because my head was always in it --- regardless of my intentions. I do find that after being hopelessly single for some time now, I pass on sex only opportunities. My rationalization is a pointless fling will cause me to stray from the path of finding that right one. As I spent most of my youth in a relationship that didn't ultimately come to fruition, I worry about wasting more time. I'm not getting any younger. Besides, I haven't yet hit my sexual peak. Maybe I just need to give in and buy a pair of tits.

elSicomoro 03-25-2006 03:53 PM

I've never had meaningless sex, only meaningless makeout sessions. I thought about engaging in such activity when I broke up with my then-fiance last year, but then I became obsessed with an old friend of mine back home. And now we're getting married next year. I don't think I missed anything. :)

xoxoxoBruce 03-25-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Parker
Maybe I just need to give in and buy a pair of tits.

No. Absolutely, positively, unequivocally, no. :headshake
If it takes plastic tits to get 'em......you don't want 'em.

Mrs. Parker 03-26-2006 09:30 PM

I know --- you're right. Just losing my patience.

Dagney 03-27-2006 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore
I've never had meaningless sex, only meaningless makeout sessions. I thought about engaging in such activity when I broke up with my then-fiance last year, but then I became obsessed with an old friend of mine back home. And now we're getting married next year. I don't think I missed anything. :)

No, but I sure think I have.

Married?

Good god, no wonder it's been so cold! :) Hell, she done froze over *G*

I think we need to talk Mr. Sycamore *G*

elSicomoro 03-27-2006 10:39 PM

Reading my blog reveals all. ;)

Griff 03-28-2006 05:47 AM

Next thing you know... he's a breeder!

Dagney 03-28-2006 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore
Reading my blog reveals all. ;)

I don't see you wandering past mine all that often either *G*

Seriously, hit me up on Messenger when you can, I'd like to touch base.

thrillhouse 03-28-2006 01:36 PM

FYI: as of 11:30 PST, hot meaningless sex is beating out celibacy (for those of you keeping score *wink*)

thrillhouse 03-29-2006 05:20 PM

Hawt (but meaningless) sex WINS!!!
 
Celibacy 47.62%
Hot Meaningless Sex 52.38%

*cartwheels*

DucksNuts 03-29-2006 05:51 PM

I'll throw my 2 cents behind Hot Meaningless Sex. "Hot" being the key word.

sharpness 04-03-2006 06:15 AM

As a guy the tendancy would be to think Hot and Meaningless as the way to go but to be honest I've never been like that and the need to make a connection is still essential in my mind. Maybe occaisionally some HMS is good but long term rekon you'd feel cold and empty. Having said that Celibacy - I don't think so. Let get a balance here!!

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2006 07:39 PM

I agree, sharpness. The exception being hot meaningless sex with a friend your comfortable with and are sure nobody's getting hurt. ;)

Oh... and welcome to the Cellar.

sharpness 04-05-2006 07:25 AM

Thanks Bruce
 
Thanks Bruce

rtexanssane 04-07-2006 08:06 PM

celibacy for me. Been doing this for decades and i feel more and more free the longer this continues.

skysidhe 04-08-2006 10:40 AM

I vote for hot meaningless sex. I think after a certain age you can't find men who arn't looking for the needy mommy syndrome so that keeps me celebate.

oh the irony of it all:)

NoBarkDawg 04-11-2006 06:00 PM

If it was still open, I'd say got for celibacy, which, I think includes no masturbation as well...

I'm currently 'abstaining'. :(

Only from sex though...

Kagen4o4 04-11-2006 06:07 PM

well that would about even it up

capnhowdy 04-11-2006 08:35 PM

I've wondered about that. Does celabacy mean no masterbation? I mean no orgasm at all? Can someone clue me? I know it's a weird question, but.... hell, I just wonder shit sometimes.

DucksNuts 04-11-2006 08:58 PM

I would class celibacy as just no sex, orgasm via other means is acceptable

thrillhouse 04-12-2006 02:11 PM

from Wikipedia:

"Celibacy refers either to being unmarried or to sexual abstinence. A vow of celibacy is a promise not to enter into marriage or engage in sexual intercourse. Some writers use it interchangeably as a synonym for abstinence or chastity.

Some writers on sexuality draw a distinction between abstinence and celibacy, stating that celibacy means refraining from any sexual activity with a partner. They argue that this can be empowering, as it still allows that person to be "sexual" (through, for example, masturbation). This would not, however, be referred to as chaste celibacy, as masturbation is not considered a chaste act.

The term involuntary celibacy refers to lack of sexual intercourse for reasons other than (voluntary) abstinence, e.g. shyness / love-shyness."

NoBarkDawg 04-12-2006 02:15 PM

I always thought celibacy meant no sexual gratification at all... like priests are *supposed* to be celibate... and always thought abstinence was just no sex, but masturbation or whatever was ok...

That's just me though.

EDIT: actually, now that I think of it (7 and a half seconds later), masturbation is supposed to be a sin as well... so maybe celibacy and abstinence really are the same thing... But I'm not that strong, so I'll draw a line between the two and say I'm abstinent instead of celibate... 'cause there's no way I'm not gonna have an orgasm when I want it. Just not gonna sleep with someone I don't know to get it.

capnhowdy 04-12-2006 05:58 PM

I guess that explains the friar's soft hands. Forgive me...

Mulatto91 01-04-2009 08:11 PM

Heyy, couldn't help but find this conversation via Google. I know this was years ago, but anyone still around? Looking for some closure on the subject and you seemed like a good bunch.

BigV 01-04-2009 09:20 PM

Curiously, they're all... busy. Weird, huh?

Aliantha 01-04-2009 10:52 PM

Hot Meaningless Sex all the way.

If it's meaningless, then why bother with celibacy? Just do it baby!

During the 5 years I was single before I met Dazza, I'd have gone stir crazy without meaningless sex. I say meaningless because I never met anyone I'd be interested in introducing my kids to, so they obviously weren't very meaningful. I had a friend who was a fuckbuddy for the times when I was 'date poor' which worked out pretty well for both of us, but neither of us wanted to be in a relationship with the other. We still keep in touch although we don't see much of each other.

DucksNuts 01-05-2009 04:44 AM

My vote is still HOT meaningless sex.

DanaC 01-05-2009 04:46 AM

Oh celibacy for me. My only real experiences of meaningless sex have generally been unpleasant and unsatisfying. *shrugs* I think probably because sex is not something I massively enjoy. With the right person and in the right mood it's wonderful, but I am quite content not to bother with it for years at a time. If you are one of those women who are fortunate enough to orgasm easily and often I suspect it's very different lol.

I don't think i take very much from sex. I mean, I take away the glow of knowing somebody wanted me...but it's pretty much entirely in the head with me. For it to work properly, it has to work up here *points to head* and it's rare to meet a stranger you can instantly mentally bounce off (as the actress said to the bishop).

A guy could spend an hour on physical foreplay and get me no closer to the edge...but if he gets inside my head he can make me come without touching me. All mental.

limey 01-05-2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 519105)
...but if he gets inside my head he can make me come without touching me. All mental.

Now there's a challenge for the male dwellars :D !

Sundae 01-05-2009 09:32 AM

I can't come without touching - but I can get so close that it doesn't take much more than a breath of air to set me off.

My brain is definitely my sexual organ of choice.


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