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Undertoad 05-21-2006 11:19 AM

What it means to be an American
 
What are our ACTUAL cultural values, the things that make us unique?

= Coffee. In fact, the entire society operates on it, in a circular fashion. We work hard at our jobs, so that we will have enough money to buy high-priced coffee to wake us up, so that we can work hard at our jobs.

If the coffee is interrupted, the entire model could break down. We are 100% dependent on foreign-grown beans, and should consider establishing a National Strategic Reserve.

= We smell great. Because by the time we're age 18, we will have seen approximately 2,000,000 TV commercials telling us that we smell bad and offering us chemicals to prevent it.

= We sit outside our houses. Special cheap furniture is available especially for the practice of sitting just outside your house, if you have a house. This activity is only done at dusk. At any other time of day, it is considered odd.

If you are seated outside your house at dusk, and a friend arrives, it is a common American practice to greet him or her by waving your drink and saying "Hey!"

= We pick up our friends at the airport. If someone asks if you can pick them up at the airport, just do it, don't grumble about it. Help someone out, will you? Have you seen the parking rates at the airport?

= We don't talk about how much we make. We don't know why, we just have a "thing" about it. Most people think "it was a workplace policy once, or something".




skysidhe 05-21-2006 11:34 AM

:coffee: + :donut: = :chill:


Video games become the substitute for playing outside.

TV becomes the the nanny.


Single parent households comprise fifty percent of modern families.

Where the hell is daddy.

Absent daddy = subsidized by welfare check.
( oh wait that was Clinton) Now they just starve.

We smile on photos. Our grandparents did not. Are we happier or do we just have better teeth?

xoxoxoBruce 05-21-2006 01:50 PM

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We smile on photos. Our grandparents did not. Are we happier or do we just have better teeth?
When Grandma & Grandpa stood for a photograph they were warned to hold perfectly still....photo's were slow. A smile held for 30 seconds or more looks phony and forced....undignified.

I refuse to be a slave of those Coffee Barons. I'd rather get my caffeine the natural way...Diet Pepsi. :angel:

MaggieL 05-21-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

If the coffee is interrupted, the entire model could break down.

Maybe...maybe not. I'd miss coffee, but there is a plethora of alternative fuels.
Hypercaffinated cocoa would be a real win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Herbert-Mentat mantra from Dune
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...

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Originally Posted by alternate version
It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire trembling, the trembling becomes a warning. it is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion...


BigV 05-22-2006 09:33 AM

Dear MaggieL:

Are you a Firefox user?

MaggieL 05-22-2006 09:43 AM

Yes. But I keep a lot of such things in my Cookie Jar Page.

SteveDallas 05-22-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
= Coffee. In fact, the entire society operates on it, in a circular fashion. We work hard at our jobs, so that we will have enough money to buy high-priced coffee to wake us up, so that we can work hard at our jobs.

You could almost say the same thing about cars.

I thought of "Dune" too, but it was more along the lines of "The coffee beans must flow!"

Ibby 05-22-2006 10:59 AM

Your eyes don't go blue... just all twitchy and fast.

xoxoxoBruce 05-22-2006 08:38 PM

To be a true American you must have (a) pet(s) you treat like kids, spend way to much on, and bore people with their antics. ;)


Oh,....... and not eat them.

SteveDallas 05-22-2006 09:07 PM

But Petrie is the only one who really understands me!! He deserves the cockatiel mansion and the bird masseuse.

xoxoxoBruce 05-23-2006 09:52 PM

It that what you told your wife you spent the money on? :eek:

Griff 05-25-2006 07:14 AM

= we drink vast quantities of Coors Light while watching NASCAR.
= we drink vast quantities of Pepsi while working.
= we drink vast quantities of water in bottles watching our kids play organized sports.
= we seem to have a lot of empty containers /metaphor

skysidhe 05-26-2006 09:10 AM

We work too much.

We sleep too little.

Double household incomes are the only way to get vacations.

Maui Nick 05-28-2006 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad
If the coffee is interrupted, the entire model could break down. We are 100% dependent on foreign-grown beans, and should consider establishing a National Strategic Reserve.

I have abandoned the daily cups of coffee (thus making my sobriquet on another forum obsolete) and when I absolutely need a caffeine hit, I drink a Red Bull, SoBe No Fear, Full Throttle or something similar.

I'm one of those people who is uncomfortable depending on any one thing to get by on a daily basis, so from a mental standpoint I'm a bit more comfortable in my own skin, so to speak.

Kitsune 05-29-2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
Double household incomes are the only way to own a home.

Fixed that.

We don't talk about how much we make, but we judge people by what they own and are able to buy.

We concern ourselves with the materials, not what people do with them. It is not where the person goes, but the car, not the music, but the pricey instrument, not the writing/images/code, but the computer hardware and how fast it is.

We strive to isolate people behind bars, both criminals (in jail) and ourselves (in gated, secure communities).

We set aside one day a year to remember those that fought for our freedoms. The rest of the year, we fight to give up those freedoms because we feel threatened.

richlevy 05-29-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
We set aside one day a year to remember those that fought for our freedoms. The rest of the year, we fight to give up those freedoms because we feel threatened.

Brilliant! :thumb: Not to sound snarky, but is that your quote? It's the most succint commentary on the current situation that I can find.

Kitsune 05-29-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy
Brilliant! :thumb: Not to sound snarky, but is that your quote? It's the most succint commentary on the current situation that I can find.

Yeah, although similar commentary probably exists elsewhere. I cannot be the only person that finds the irony of thanking the soldiers for dying our freedoms while so many shout "we're at war, we have to make sacrifices".

xoxoxoBruce 05-29-2006 06:20 PM

Sounds cookie worthy to me. :thumb2:

skysidhe 05-31-2006 04:35 PM

Cookies and milk is a great American past time.

MaggieL 05-31-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
We set aside one day a year to remember those that fought for our freedoms. The rest of the year, we fight to give up those freedoms because we feel threatened.

Seems to me that most of the "surrendered freedoms" I hear people Cassandra-ing about of late are "freedoms" that people never actually had but have suddenly found sorely lacking, now that there's somebody they want to blame it on.

Personally, I feel just about as free as I did before 9/11 and PATRIOT. Maybe I'm just not yearning for the right kind of freedoms to generate the "police state" paranoia that's so fashionable these days.

What worries me are the people who want to disarm me in the hopes that if they do fewer outlaw kids will shoot each other (and anybody else standing nearby) over drugs, money and women.

It's cheaper than putting them in prison the first time they commit a crime. And after all, society is to blame.

skysidhe 05-31-2006 05:18 PM

We outsource our jobs.

We don't see 'Made In America' labels anymore.

We try to balance political correctness by telling ourselves we are not afraid of the turbaned man or the long gowned middle eastener who walks through our grocery store.


( ps that said, I've known alot of people from India who are so cool) :)

Trilby 05-31-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff
= we drink vast quantities of Coors Light while watching NASCAR.
= we drink vast quantities of Pepsi while working.
= we drink vast quantities of water in bottles watching our kids play organized sports.
= we seem to have a lot of empty containers /metaphor

ooh! Very good! You get an A!*






*and the sexual dalliance of your choice. No animals.

xoxoxoBruce 05-31-2006 05:38 PM

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Personally, I feel just about as free as I did before 9/11 and PATRIOT.
I sure as hell don't, when the government can illegally listen to my phone calls and illegally read my emails, then pass any illegally gleaned information to another law enforcement agency who can LEGALLY use that illegally obtained information to prosecute me.

Now obviously amateur radio stations can be used to pass sensitive information to terrorists and should be confiscated. That's not much of a stretch. Wouldn't affect me in the least but I think you'd change your tune, damn quick.:eyebrow:

MaggieL 05-31-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I sure as hell don't, when the government can illegally listen to my phone calls...

See, that's what I mean.

Which of your phone calls are likely illegally listened to? Do you regularly receive calls from suspected overseas terrorists? Domestic calls are not "listened to".

I remeber when I read that when monitoring an international call made by a non-US national being surveillied that NSA had to immediately cease if they figured out the other party was a US national. Seemed kinda extreme. These days, with how difficult it is to identify who the called party is, it's even more so.

And you do remeber the Clipper Chip, right? :-)
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
...and illegally read my emails...

I hate to break it to you, but plaintext email has never been anything close to secure.

If that worries you, you should encrypt it.; many people do.
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Now obviously amateur radio stations can be used to pass sensitive information to terrorists and should be confiscated. That's not much of a stretch. Wouldn't affect me in the least but I think you'd change your tune, damn quick.

Which is exactly why radio amateurs radio operators have *always* been forbidden encrypt any of their messages...this is not new. They are also subject to stringent controls as to which country's nationals can pass messages though amateur radio.

FCC doesn't have to seize my radios to shut me down, all they need to do is lift my licence.

MaggieL 05-31-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
We outsource our jobs.

We don't see 'Made In America' labels anymore.

Really? I do.
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Originally Posted by skysidhe
( ps that said, I've known alot of people from India who are so cool) :)

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/di...3282060530.gif

Kitsune 05-31-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I sure as hell don't, when the government can illegally listen to my phone calls and illegally read my emails, then pass any illegally gleaned information to another law enforcement agency who can LEGALLY use that illegally obtained information to prosecute me.

Some people just love and trust big government implicitly, which is something I'll never understand given the track record of the three letter agencies and politicians that will be dealing with the information. They subscribe to the logic of "If you've done nothing wrong..." because they feel it could not possibly affect their lives. So, if it it isn't affecting them, it can't possibly affect anyone else as innocent and as shining of a citizen. So, what's the big deal? It isn't as if the government would ever use these powers for nefarious activities. Nooo, they would never do that. Because, of course, we are at war* and we have to feel comfortable with these measures until it ends**. So please, don't think of phone record collecting or warrantless wiretaps as "spying on citizens", think of it as an ever-vigilant, protective family member always at your side. An "older brother", if you will.

There really are times when I hope these people that have given into the irrational fear get the government they desire.


* - not really. Should Congress ever actually declare it, we'd have to cough up the cash to give full benefits to soldiers and, of all things, follow certain rules of engagement.

** - the "war on terrorism" will last as long as terrorism does. You figure it out.

skysidhe 05-31-2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
We outsource our jobs.

We don't see 'Made In America' labels anymore.


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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Really? I do.

You do? Like what? Remingtons? :p


Great cartoon too btw. It's not their fault US CEOs ask them to work for much more than they would normally get there. We need to hold our politicians accountable. That said, I do wish sometimes I was talking to a person whose first language is english. I don't know why I just feel strange talking to someone in another country about my account.

Happy Monkey 05-31-2006 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Which of your phone calls are likely illegally listened to?

How is "likely" relevant?

rkzenrage 05-31-2006 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I sure as hell don't, when the government can illegally listen to my phone calls and illegally read my emails, then pass any illegally gleaned information to another law enforcement agency who can LEGALLY use that illegally obtained information to prosecute me.

Now obviously amateur radio stations can be used to pass sensitive information to terrorists and should be confiscated. That's not much of a stretch. Wouldn't affect me in the least but I think you'd change your tune, damn quick.:eyebrow:

If they can illegally do as they please so can I... they guy who comes for me dies, I feel bad for his family, but not bad enough, he and the government chooses it. It is very simple. I am a patriot.

MaggieL 06-01-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
How is "likely" relevant?

Because he's not going to know if one is *actually* listened to. Unless he gets busted because of something he says, of course.

MaggieL 06-01-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
You do? Like what? Remingtons?

Well, my Kel-Tec, anyway.

But I was thinking of clothing labels.

xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
See, that's what I mean.

Which of your phone calls are likely illegally listened to? Do you regularly receive calls from suspected overseas terrorists? Domestic calls are not "listened to".

Bullshit
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I remeber when I read that when monitoring an international call made by a non-US national being surveillied that NSA had to immediately cease if they figured out the other party was a US national. Seemed kinda extreme. These days, with how difficult it is to identify who the called party is, it's even more so.
Bullshit
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And you do remeber the Clipper Chip, right? :-)
No
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I hate to break it to you, but plain text email has never been anything close to secure.

If that worries you, you should encrypt it.; many people do.
That only keeps the general public at bay and attracts the government decoders.
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Which is exactly why radio amateurs radio operators have *always* been forbidden encrypt any of their messages...this is not new. They are also subject to stringent controls as to which country's nationals can pass messages though amateur radio.
There are many ways to hide messages in plain text or language.
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FCC doesn't have to seize my radios to shut me down, all they need to do is lift my licence.
Yeah sure, and if they lift my carry permit I can't take a gun to somebodies house and shoot them. C'mon, get real here.:rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 06-01-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage
If they can illegally do as they please so can I... they guy who comes for me dies, I feel bad for his family, but not bad enough, he and the government chooses it. It is very simple. I am a patriot.

Bad Boy, Bad Boy, whatcha gonna do?
Whatcha gonna do when they send an Apache Longbow or an A-10 Warthog, or a Stryker for you? :eyebrow:

MaggieL 06-01-2006 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
No

Well, look it up. Under "Clinton administration", if that helps.
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
That only keeps the general public at bay and attracts the government decoders.

Which is why good old Phil Zimmerman advocated everybody doing it all the time.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
There are many ways to hide messages in plain text or language.

And even more in digital data. HF radio used to have significance in international intelligence; it doesn't anymore. For one thing, it requires somebody who knows what they're doing on both ends to use it.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Yeah sure, and if they lift my carry permit I can't take a gun to somebodies house and shoot them. C'mon, get real here.

Get real indeed. Do you advocate gun confiscation too?

I'm more worried about liberals trying to take stuff away from me ("..as representatives of The Common Good", as Hilary said); they spend all their time talking about it. Take a look at that Google sketch-up thread...the very first words out of tw's mouth when he found out I was a ham was about whether my neighbors would prevent me from erecting antennas.

Collectivists...*sigh*

I don't think Bush wants my radios. He seems to understand they're more valuable to him (and everybody else) in my hands.

Kitsune 06-01-2006 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
HF radio used to have significance in international intelligence; it doesn't anymore. For one thing, it requires somebody who knows what they're doing on both ends to use it.

Uh...wha? You need to tune around above/below 12 and 30 meters sometime! 17 836 20 191 65...

73s.

MaggieL 06-01-2006 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Uh...wha? You need to tune around above/below 12 and 30 meters sometime! 17 836 20 191 65...

73s.

Yes, there still are numbers stations. Giant Talk is still in operation too.
But it's not anywhere near the big deal it used to be; internet steganography rules...and any dimwit with a laptop can do it.

The theory that numbers stations are mostly drug runners now seems plausible to me...and confiscating legally owned HF rigs won't affect that any more than confiscating legally owned weapons will stop gangbangers.

Kitsune 06-01-2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
confiscating legally owned HF rigs won't affect that any more than confiscating legally owned weapons will stop gangbangers.

Uh, okay. I just mentioned numbers stations because I find them interesting. I'm not suggesting we take your rig away. Shee.

skysidhe 06-01-2006 09:56 PM

( getting back on topic )

Large soft serve icecream cones.


New vehichle tires and if you are really special some cool hub caps.

MaggieL 06-02-2006 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Uh, okay. I just mentioned numbers stations because I find them interesting. I'm not suggesting we take your rig away. Shee.

Didn't say you did. Bruce did; that was the original context. Or rather he was FUDding that Bush would...

Numbers stations are interesting to the extent that they still exist and you have to wonder why. You also have to wonder if they are actually carrying any traffic, or if they're just in operation to foil traffic analysis in case they're needed someday. .

MaggieL 06-02-2006 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
( getting back on topic )
Large soft serve icecream cones.

Yeah...the last remaining founder of Mr. Softee died over the weekend.

Kitsune 06-02-2006 07:28 AM

We take our children on a relaxing vacations that have schedules of what to do, when to do it, and everyone better stick to the timeline or we're not going to make it to our dinner reservation hurryup hurryup go go go!.

skysidhe 06-02-2006 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Yeah...the last remaining founder of Mr. Softee died over the weekend.


:eek: no way!

ok , I didn't find mr softee but I did find a strange recipie.
SOFT ICE CREAM 1/2 gal. chocolate milk
1 can Eagle Brand milk
1 lg. carton Cool Whip

Mix Eagle Brand milk and Cool Whip, stirring gently. Slowly stir in chocolate milk. Pour in gallon freezer and freeze in normal way. Makes 1 gallon.

First of all it uses cool whip, then second it says to freeze 'in normal way'. What's the abnormal way?



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To be an american means being hairless for the most part. Buying high priced razors.

To be an american it means the word orgainic is 'new' and 'trendy' when in actuality it just means 'old fashioned' .

To be an american you must own a television with over 100 channels and leave it running and don't watch it because there is nothing on.

Flint 06-02-2006 09:13 AM

"What it means to be an American" ...you have to be really, really fat?

Flint 06-02-2006 09:19 AM

I'm sorry, that was uncalled for. It really means that you believe the Earth was created 5,000 years ago. Also, you have to hate the right people. That's probably the most important, the hating.

skysidhe 06-02-2006 09:34 AM

To be an american it means you could be anyone from any subculture.

Some americans are bitter and negative about their country and people in general.

To be an american you might own a membership at a gym. Whether fat or thin being health conscience seems to be an american fad right now.

To be an american means you have an unsquishable hope that goes beyond politics and rhetoric.

Flint 06-02-2006 09:38 AM

...and no sense of humor. that's the other thing. the hate and the no humor.

MaggieL 06-02-2006 10:38 AM

"Funny" is a movable feast. Many asshats like to blame the poor reception their asshatery gets on a lack of sense of humor, when in fact it's simply as result of having some taste. Finding Adam Sandler or Carrottop to be dreary and dimwitted does not prove someone doesn't have a sense of humor, for example.

MaggieL 06-02-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
:eek: no way!

Way. Oh...the link on that page to the sheet music is broken. This is the location they're trying to link to.
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Originally Posted by skysidhe
then second it says to freeze 'in normal way'. What's the abnormal way?

Probably any way that allows large ice crystals to form. The normal way prevents that.

Flint 06-02-2006 10:46 AM

That's a good point, Maggie - in that one specific instance where the "asshattor" places direct blame upon the "asshatee" . . . However, consider the other side of the coin: the inability to recognize humorous intentions, IE responding out of left field with a stern reply to a light-hearted post. In other words, an "apples" reply to an "oranges" post.

jinx 06-02-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe
if you are really special some cool hub caps.

Cool hub caps is an oxymoron.

Flint 06-02-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx
Cool hub caps is an oxymoron.

You're an oxymoron!

(See? That was a joke. Whether it was funny or not is irrelevant to whether it was posted with serious intentions. The inability to recognize a joke as a joke doesn't simply equate to whether you thought it was funny or not.)

BigV 06-02-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune
Uh...wha? You need to tune around above/below 12 and 30 meters sometime! 17 836 20 191 65...

73s.

Did somebody say numbers stations? Bonus link.

jinx 06-02-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
You're an oxymoron!

So's your mother.

Kitsune 06-02-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

I used to fall asleep in front of an old Hallicrafters HF rig, tuned to some distant voice spewing seemingly random numbers. I was intrigued by them, listening for any hint as to what they might be or what purpose they served. I still hear them, today, and they haven't lost any of their mystique.

Note: falling asleep to numbers stations gives you very strange dreams.

BigV 06-02-2006 12:58 PM

wrt monitoring emails, calls, internet searches, etc ad nauseam:
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Justice Department wants Internet companies to save personal Web surfing data
By Elise Ackerman
Mercury News

The U.S. Department of Justice has told Google, Microsoft and other major Internet companies that it wants them to keep detailed records of where people go while surfing the Web for up to two years.
the sh*t just never stops. Why not just have regular mandatory public mass strip searches, maybe at checkpoints?! You just never know what might turn up. :smack: *This* is your best shot at catching perverts with a taste for child pornography? Bonus question: Who here thinks this will be restricted to the effort to catch the above mentioned perverts? Hmm? Anyone, anyone? Now who thinks this will be ABUSED to troll for whatever looks...interesting. Like, oh, I don't know... searches for information contrary to the administration's One True Way (tm)?

Special shout out to AG Gonsalez: Go away. When I need a cop, I'll call one.

And in aticipation of the terror-addled knee-jerk reaction "It's in the interest of national security!! If you don't have anything to hide, there's no reason to be opposed to such a plan." To the utterer or thinker (and I use that term very very loosely here), I say bull shit. Privacy, liberty and security are not quantities in some zero sum game. They are not mutually exclusive. I urge you to read the excellent short essay, The Eternal Value of Privacy by Bruce Schneier.
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This is the loss of freedom we face when our privacy is taken from us. This is life in former East Germany, or life in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And it's our future as we allow an ever-intrusive eye into our personal, private lives.

Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.

Kitsune 06-02-2006 01:03 PM

I moved your comment here, because I think it is a really important note and I don't want to clutter up this BBQs/SUV/apple pie thread with anymore ranting about Big Brother.

MaggieL 06-02-2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint
the inability to recognize humorous intentions

...is not identical with recognizing humor.

If you haven't manged to be funny, don't expect to be treated as a humorist. Credit is not given for "trying".
Or being trying.

Flint 06-02-2006 02:59 PM

@Maggie: I'm not defining a "joke" by whether people thought it was funny or not. I'm saying there are posts intended to be taken seriously and those that aren't. The inability to distinguish between these two categories can subjectively be considered either the fault of the author for inadequately expressing him or herself, of the fault of the reader for failing to comprehend the meaning intended by the author.

Nowhere, in no way shape or form, does the variable perception of whether the "joke" was "funny" or not have anything to do with anything I've posted here.

The "inablity to recognize humorous intentions" is "not identical with recognizing humor." Right, that's what I've been saying all along. "The inability to recognize a joke as a joke doesn't simply equate to whether you thought it was funny or not."

Flint 06-02-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Or being trying.

See, now that's funny.

skysidhe 06-02-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx
Cool hub caps is an oxymoron.

yeah, I kinda said it with tounge in cheek.




To be american means using oxymorons. Or being one sometimes. :) Like the Hell's Angles.






Usuing personal characteristics like Hate and Humor are common to all peoples and isn't really an 'american' thing.



oh,,, and I do laugh when people are actually funny when they are Not stupid funny, or warped funny. I think witty is funny. I don't think it's funny how the internet filters most of a persons personality. I don't think it's funny how somepeople want to paint ugly little pictures of someone else.

Hating the 'right' people is a just a warped . There is no RIGHT. Hate just IS sometimes. Very unfortunate but everyone does it at times. I don't think that subject matter was given to be funny.






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