I know what I want from the cellar, ya cock.
 

Yeah, ok. Bruce...you prick......this has been bothering me for like... a week.

My subconscious has been working on this, and I've decided what I want. It's pretty simple really. you ready?

I want more participation from the people I like. dammit.

It's the people. the topics are irrelevant. I used to read this and be able to get a sense of real people on the other end....now my fucking eyes glaze over every time i try to read it. fake ass opinions espoused by fabricated personalities, purely for dramatic affect.

i call upon Pie, stevedallas and Griff, sundae girl and wolf, foot3 and Elspode, Flint and Happy Monkey, case and Beestie. I summon hot_pastrami! Where is Dar512?! What ever happened to fucking Perth?! Sycamore, what the fuck was that a three week teaser?! get back here! Go find filenotfound. blue58?!

so...to answer the question.......I'm not digging the most active posters right now. sigh. what can i do, but rail against it?

cock.

And folks in Hell want ice water !!!
This IS a public forum . folks come and go .
FACT !!
I agree that there have been some better than others , some more proliphic than others , some more fun than others , some trolls , some just ASSHATS .
But this is a PUBLIC forum .
Folks are like that , some good , some smart , some funny , some insitefull , some just flat out stupid and annoying .
This is life .

I look at this place like a good collage bar , brick layers agrueing politics with poli-sie Professers , Electritions argueing with Physist , the odd collage kid argueing with an adult about life in general ,
but then a hot chick walks past and Turns EVERY bodys head !!!
ALL fun , some folks acting pissy but mostly all good, things will swing the way you like ( if you make them swing that way ) that is !!

Ya Whineing Byotch !!!!!!! ;)

i knows it. i'm a just a sayin. he asked me what i want...and that is it.....that and a nice BJ. is that so wrong? you could post more, too, you little marine pecker head. and tell that faggot plthijnx to get his head out of his ass.

Don't you like my content lj?

Thanks, I appreciate the response. I was hoping if I stuck a little grit in your craw, you'd make a pearl. You did.

In appreciation, I promise next time I'm in Cherry Hill, buying a Nissan, I'll give you a blow job.

Thats a visual I didnt need.

But can you take pics anyway?

Um, isn't plthijnx kinda unavailable right now? And I don't think that's his HEAD that's up his ass...

I think I know what you're saying. We had a particularly sweet vibe there for a while, but the cellar changes. We can never really drive it in a certain direction. Defining what we had probably only limits our possibilities. I want folks to be thick-skinned, prickley, edgie, and funny but not asshat friendly... tough to hit the sweet spot.

I think that would involve a third party.

Or at least a tripod.

What ever happened to the way it USED to be!

The new people are ruining it!

I miss the old days!

Waaaaah!

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COME ON, people--this is a classic forum lament, and it's B.S. You CAN'T control the ebb and flow of people. I would have thought LJ and Bruce to be way too forum-savvy to fall for this trap. It's a sucker punch.

As a relative noob, let me tell you, it's like being invited to the party, and then shoved into a locked bathroom with all the uncool people. Tough room. Yeah, I may not be thick skinned, prickly, edgie, or funny, but neither am I a fabricated personality with fake opinions. So what?

The Cellar is unique in my experience (although I'm sure not unique-unique) in that it does not have a primary subject matter. That leaves people free to talk about what they want. It's a party, not a club meeting. Instead of whining about it, put up the threads YOU want to talk about, and let other people do the same.

and remember, I give free blow jobs, so try not to hurt me. :)

it's not about you, cloud. you're fine. it's not about anyone specifically. as griff says, it's the overall dynamic. I know good and goddamn well that I can't DO anything about it. I just wanted to say what I was feeling about the place lately.

Use your party ananlogy....It's like I was at the party with cool college kids and seniors havin fun, groovin' ...and then they all started to drift away, and the freshmen and sophmores started showing up.

I don't want to drift away though....but..i just don't feel the same connection.

I know it's all in my head. I just don't like most of you as much as the old crew. I know that's hard to hear.....but you probably don't like me either, so I'm sure you don't give a shit. I tried looking around for a new forum, but they're not easy to find.....

It's not you, I'm feeling the same way. :neutral: I still like the celler, for crying out loud I'm here about every day. But, it doesn't have the same tone that it did. The newer people seem to be a bit more sensitive, taking everything as personal attacks, rather than opportunities to investigate some new POV.

Maybe they just aren't as witty, or creative as some of the old ones. Maybe just more whiney, or less open-minded. <-- Not thinking of anyone in particular. I know I'm by far not one of the most intellegent or eloquent that has ever hit the enter button. But, there used to be more quality posts IMHO. People would actually think about what they were going to say, preview it, edit it, then post.



Oh, and if you want that BJ, you gotta earn it baby :D

It's true, too many whiners now.
There are very few that I respect.

if you want something done right, do it yourself.

If you want witty, thoughtful posts which are up to your standards--it's up to you to make 'em. Lead by example.

I do.

well then.

Exactly. Cloud, you seem to be taking this personally. BTW, leading by example only works of your pupil is paying attention.

Hey! I'm still here! But I've always been crap at starting threads. Heck, one of my signature threads was started by you! Though it seems to have been edited to appear to have been started by me when your subforum was closed...

[edit]...or, when you separated it out from some other thread when your subforum was open...

I don't really think this is aimed at me personally--except by inference and inclusion, since I am a newbie.

The whole "the old crowd was better, it's not the same place anymore" is just so classic though. And pretty pointless. Not to mention making new people feel unwelcome.

You are perfectly welcome. Making anyone unwelcome is a hobby of his.

"en la vida dos cosas ciertas: son la muerte y el cambio."

Here's a fascinating discussion of group dynamics on the internet:

A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy

"It's the people"
 

I agree, "It's the people" - and thanks for including me in that. I haven't been around for a while, and I appreciate the long-term vibe.

Jim, buddy, you left me off your list. I'm hurt.

I think you spent too much time involving his bodily appendages in your posts to stay on his list.

Holy Cow! That's easily the best thing I've read all month. Excellent find, Cloud, excellent.

its says it all, doesn't it?

Private Beestie reporting for Duty, Sir.

Let's do this.

Police the area.

LJ, the story goes that one afternoon the doorbell rang in Peter Sellers's London flat. He was busy in the study, so his wife Anne went to the door, where she was handed a telegram. The message? "Bring me a cup of coffee. Peter."

yeah...you're on a different list.

I am still wondering why you are looking for filenotfound? That guy left years ago....didn't he?

And I am still here, dammit. As for perth, I will let him know you are looking for him. I know he can't hide for long, but I can at least give him a head start... :)

I'll always be here for you lumperjim... :D

unless you wreck two more threads.....have another drink

Jim, think of it as a constantly evolving community...now we have Mercenary, rkzenrage, Sundae Girl, Ducknuts, Cloud, Grant, and many many others who have distinct personalities that color this place like it has never been before. I think it is good to see a new dynamic...it keeps it fresh. Besides, most of the die-hards are still around.

:love: I can't believe it -- Lumberjim.... likes me!! :rotflol:

yeah, i know, case....but the die hards are crapflooded out and i dont have the time to read all the threads like i used to do. it's purely my problem, and i have absolutely no right to demand a certain level of ......bleh.....but i do care enough to whine about it.


i have to say....i admire tony's ability to NOT boot people that annoy him. I get this sense that he and I are of similar temperaments....and I would totally oust a few people if I had the button.

pie, not only do i like you.....i would do bad awful things to you! I would ruin you for the rest of us. I'd make you spill your coffee.....i'd give you reason to question authority.....etc...

lol....that list is far from complete, too. there are other people i like. it's not MY cellar, anyway. except in the sense that this is my world, and you're all just living in it.....

Then what are you doing putting so much focus on work? Where are your priorities? (I know, I am really one to talk with my < 1000 posts.)

this is my world, and you're all just living in it.....

Your world ??? Ok your world in my Solar System !!

BYOTCH !!!!


Oh and I would post more but it is sorta hard to read and post when you are working out side , and driveing 3-5000 miles a month , also lots of customers IT Geeks are blocking Most ALL net access nowadays ( The FUCKERS !!!!!)

Ohh, oh more, talk dirty to me...
Waitasec, spill my coffee? Nope. Nissan stainless mug with a spillproof lid! I dare you! :p

From Cloud's link:
I think this is a good description of the cellar. Thousands of lurkers, hundreds of posters, dozens of regulars, and a small handful that make the place hum. If I'm somewhere between 'poster' and 'regular', I'm happy with that level of affiliation. I also thank the Truly Hard Core for nurturing this place along.

you left me off your list, but i know that was intentional. in fact, i think it is pretty obvious that this whole temper tantrum was your little way of trying to lure me back in so you may all bask in the glory that is... Lookout! KNEEL TO ZODD, ER, I MEAN LOOKOUT!

Been waiting a loooooooooooooooong time for that one.

lj---you're always harping about this.

And you're a cock.

i am a cock.....maybe that's why you're sooooo attracted to me. cuz you. love. the. cock.

Fuck. I knew it. I lose at-work access to The Cellar, and the place just falls right the fuck apart. Goddamn it. Guess I'll have to quit my job.

What? What's that?

...the voices in my head just told me I wasn't that important. I hate it when the voices in my head are right.

Ya know what's wrong? too many one-trick pony's around here--people who say the same fookin' thing all the fookin' time, blah blah blah, boring boring boring, people who imagine they are important and anyone gives a rat's fook what they think or say. self important assholes with NO PERSONALITY. you ALWAYS know what they're gonna say coz they've only got, like, three things to say and they recycle it over and over and over ad nauseum...they exsist in suspended animation.

Progress is made one funeral at a time.

Sounds like you were doing shots when you posted this, I'm just saying...:3eye:

Dear Jim,

I appreciate being lumped in with the group of posters that you like...to borrow from Denis Leary, it tickles the cockles and sub-cockles of my heart.

I apologize for not posting much recently. I've been working a lot of hours at the pizza shops along with putting together my thesis, which is now complete. Once I perform a 10-20 minute presentation on Thursday night, I am fully finished with my Masters program, and will be participating more on the Cellar. Rest assured that I will be returning to torment/show love to the peeps in the not-too-distant future.

Love,
Sycamore
xoxo

Yeah!!

I'm taking tomorrow off, so i'll wish you good luck today, not that you are likely to need it! Kick ass!

Good luck Syc !!!!

Rock on fella!

Why can't your Master write his own damn thesis?

Lazy Masters, I tell ya. [/Rodney D.]

:D

What I want is for there to be less personal insults in this place.

I know RK considers me a mean busybody for saying I wasn't a fan of the amount and content of Cloud's threads (am quite over that btw) but it's not like I made any personal comments about her when discussing it.

It all seems to be about hitting people where it hurts right now, using personal details that people have posted in good faith. I accept I'm probably over-sensitive and it doesn't bother the people involved half as much as it would bother me, but I still think it's a bad direction to head down.

One of the main (out of many) reasons that I can't stay away from this place is the sense of community. At this precise moment in time I am closer to people on here than I am to anyone I see on a regular basis. A grim situation I know - but my real friends are scattered countrywide and all I have are work colleagues, who are nice but aren't on my wavelength. I used to be confident that I could post anything on here, and most posters would accept that this was information given in trust, not to batter me with at a future date.

Even something as simple as posting a picture is something I didn't think I would ever do online - even looking my best. But I've felt an almost delirious sense of freedom in posting pictures, without make-up, double chins on display and my ptosis clearly showing. Seriously - I credit this place for the fact I can even mention it online. Now that people are making personal comments based on other people's photos/ bodies/ lifestyles I'm wondering whether it's something I should do again. The issue is mine of course - I lack self esteem and therefore cope badly with perceived rejection. But regardless of blame, I have to admit to myself that perhaps I am in the wrong place if I can't toughen up - and I so want this to be the right place because I love it here.

I suppose I can't have it both ways. I can't have a place where I can be totally open about sensitive issues ie a place where I can be myself and write anything, if I don't mentally accept that everyone on here is equally entitled to be themselves and write anything.

Intelligent insults I can handle. Personal insults stick in my craw.

[/warmweakhuggy]

I think "intelligent insults" is an oxymoron.

(Gives Sundae Girl a hug, 'cause she needs it, and she said she was over my thread-starting thingy, yay!)

Cloud, what about:
Thou gleeking malmsey-nosed puttock!

SG -- I agree completely. I've posted very little private information in the Cellar for just that reason.

I want candy.