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Not because I want people to be made fun of because of their beliefs, because I want them to be out of politics, where they have no place.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nblair125.xml

Though at the same time one wants to know about those, like the moron in office and those who do not believe in evolution who should not hold office.

ok, just want to make sure i have this right. are you saying that someone who believes in a god and practices a faith is unfit to serve their country?

that smells of discrimination and bigotry.

Rk, how about if you started a thread called, "Religion Sucks: by Rkzenrage," and put all this stuff there?

stop stalking him blue. he might unleash his wrath and start posting clever little jpegs or you might really piss him off and he'll bring the hammer down... a youtube tongue lashing! the horror, the horror...

But how will I know to be frightened? He doesn't convey emotions in his posts, remember.

dammit! thanks for pointing out the flaw in my broken illogical brain.

Moron. ;)

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I thought RKZ was saying people who 'don't believe in evolution' shouldn't hold office.

While i agree that the separation of church and state is an ideal situation, if you're going to criticize people for believing in God and saying so through the course of their duties, you can't then support those who say they don't believe in God either.

Edit: that is, whether a politician states that they either believe or don't believe in God (or any other religion/faith/way of living), as a citizen you may agree or disagree on a personal basis, but I don't think it should be the reason you either vote or don't vote for that person.

You can't have it both ways.

no offense, RK, but isn't there an actual Net community, forum, or blog dedicated to this subject, so you can talk to the people there about it? People who are as passionate about it as you are? I agree it's an important topic, but I submit there's really no need to pass on every.single.darn news article about it here. Those of us who are interested can subscribe to daily RSS fees just as well as you can.

I mean, we get it, really--you're for the separation of church and state and against religion in government. And I agree with you, really. But perhaps you could only pass on the really important or newsworthy items?

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I just don't feel that if one knows they base their decisions on something other than the law, Constitution and Bill of Rights first they should not be voted for.
Like a certain idiot who says things like "just a piece of paper" and "don't bother me with it". After that he deserves NO RESPECT of ANY KIND.

Well you get the choice not to vote for them based on their religious beliefs and the fact that you disagree with them for making decisions based on their beliefs.

I suppose the flip side of that is that some people like voting for someone who comes from the same church.

Isn't that what liberty is supposed to be all about? The freedom to choose?

No offense taken... don't like it, don't post.
You of all people should not be calling the pot black when it comes to whining about people's threads.
I post a lot of other topics, if you, LJ and others want to focus on this and erroneously say it is all post, have at it, look like an illiterate if you like.

Where did I do that?

Never argued with any of these points and don't.

NO! Liberty is about electing the candidate I like!

Edit: damn iPod... Types too slow, always post too late...

Eloquent and well thought out as ever. Do I see the light now?
Dance clown dance.

This to me says that if you don't believe in evolution you shouldn't hold office.

Many people who believe in God don't believe in evolution.

This then means that you are critical of anyone who believes in God and not evolution, holding office.

Well okay, that certainly is worth crying about.

Well if you agree with these points, what is the argument? What are you trying to do mate? Are you just making sure that everyone realizes they have the same right to choose not to vote for people who make choices based on religious beliefs?

my post was meant to be a respectful suggestion, not whining.

I do feel that way, that does not mean I think everyone else has to.
I do think if someone is that superstitious and disregards facts to that extent they are going to do the same thing with data presented to them in office. It is simple logic and should be applied.

I realize that's how you feel RKZ. So does pretty much everyone else here. That's why I'm wondering if there's any other point you're trying to make or if that's just it.

I would really like to understand, and I think maybe others would also.

Respectful?
Every news feed, hardly. Go somewhere else, yeah, I'm feelin' tha' love. News worthy... I'll be sure to run my posts by you in the future from now on. Give me a break.
Nothing in that post was respectful.

You're reading too much into it RK, I read it as a respectful post.

Hey Lookout, I think rk has a crush on you. He's calling me a clown, because I called you a moron.

just because they're out to get ya . . .

please stop. no seriously. i only see rage as a friend. i mean sure, his modeling shots were nice and all. and he is well travelled. and edumacated. and sure he has experienced everything a human can possibly experience. and yes, he has reached the pinnacle of all rational thought. but i just don't see him that way.:headshake

Discussion forum.
Confused?
Don't like the topic, don't post.
I don't go into the topics that I don't like and whine and bitch about them.
Whaaaaaa you posted another clone, whaaaaaa you posted another poll, whaaaaa you posted another who likes to fuck this way... whaaaaaaaa.... I just ignore them, it's easy, in fact, it is beyond easy it is NOT doing something, it is less than effort it is lack of any action.
Those that post whining in them want to have responses and the attention, that is why they do it or they would do the rational thing, if they really don't like the topic, and just ignore it.
Just don't post in the thread if you don't have something intelligent to add and you really don't care about to the topic, is that so difficult?

Sorry, I thought you were talking to me.
No, he is a moron and a stalker.
Not used to the back-up.
I am very sorry for the misunderstanding.

Yeah, Ali. You are so beneath the topic of this thread. ;)

We read it differently.
The wonder of text, there is no inflection and each reads it differently.
I saw nothing respectful in telling me not to post things of interest, go somewhere else with what I wanted to add to the discussion board and that the implication that I posted everything on the topic I found without any evidence or asking me before jumping to that conclusion.
Where in that do you see respect, especially after she was accused of being similar things and getting her feelings hurt so recently by similar statements?
I see a rude and hypocritical post alone.

yeah, but if it is a worthy effort for someone to bitch and moan about bibles in a hotel drawer then certainly discussing the value of seeing the same fucking thread posted over and over and over again by the same one trick pony is worth talking about, right?
i mean it might be easier to ignore, but dammit - sometimes you've just gotta stand up and say "enough!"

wait, which thread is this again? oh nevermind, you've probably already started a new one.

I am asking you the question reasonably rkz. I want to know if there's something I'm supposed to get from your posts that I'm not. I, and I'm guessing a few others want to know if there's something we don't understand which causes you to tell us the same things over and over again.

It's a pretty simple question. Do we get it, or do we not? If not, please explain. If we do, then why keep telling us?

Incorrect, each thread has a different point and is a different discussion.
Religion is only one aspect of the thread.
Some cannot see that, some with diminished cognitive abilities or reading comprehension perhaps or just don't read them, the result is the same.

You get what you give Rage Guy. What comes around, goes around...

I was disrespectful to Cloud at what point, I told her to stop posting threads when, told her to leave at what time?

Apology accepted. But if you'd learn how to read, we wouldn't have had this problem in the first place.

And I clearly stated that every thread is different, which is what you are supposed to get from them.
I am on no soap-box.
That "most get it" is incorrect in all ways.
I simply post things I like to discuss and could care less if you agree with me or like what I post.
I only want an intelligent discussion with those who want to discuss the topic... now that you bring it up, these days, looks like I'm looking in the wrong place, huh?

but...the topic in this thread has shifted. it's now about rk bashing.

Yeah... I really should have read it all more carefully.:D

Imagine that.:3_eyes:

When you do this with others I will buy it.

Well if that's how you feel about it, maybe you are mate. Almost every thread you post has a religious theme somewhere. That was why I asked the question I asked. I don't see how the issue can be discussed any further among the current residents here. You've posted 'separation of church and state' in just about every thread.

We are not the ones that return to that point every time. You are. It's your issue, but you keep blaming us for it.

ok, that's fair. could you point me in the direction of another dwellar who starts dozens of threads revolving around the same central premise. "religion is bad and sheep who believe are stoopid, mmmkay?" we understand your view. did you have another point?

look back at your threads. a very high percentage of them are about the same damn thing. even the ones that aren't about religion are bitching and moaning about something. it would seem that there is absolutely nothing in the known universe that doesn't get your panties in a wad.

Really Ali? I guess you don't read the news threads I post or the thread I posed about an artist's death today.
I blame you for not being able to stay on-topic because you are the one who is unable to stay on-topic or just not post in the thread... which is the plain fact.
Don't like the thread, don't post in it.
How would you like it if I just went from one of your threads to the next just griping about them and insulting you without discussing the topic?
You would not know, because it is beneath me and I would not do that, so you never considered it... you just do it withouth thinking about how you would respond.

And you give a shit because?
You crack me up so much!

I do not insult you rkz. nor do I hop from one thread to the next. I don't participate in many of your threads because many of them revolve around the same central theme. It's probably because of this that I don't always read your threads.

I guess it goes both ways.

I did not only state insulting. I also mentioned derailing the threads to whine about the threads I post, my verbiage and anything else you can think of, and if you don't think much of what you said in LJ's thread was not insulting... ok.

Many dwellers stay on topics about music, political ideologies, and other issues.
If you dislike me so much and my threads are so bad why do you stalk me from thread to thread doing nothing but insulting me like a pathetic stuck puppet?
Why do you give a shit?
It is not going to change my behavior in the least, other than to mock you and give me some mirth in my day. Truly, it will never have another effect.

ok, have it your way then. If that's what you think then why am I even bothering to discuss anything with you? I don't remember what I posted in Jimbo's thread, and quite frankly, I think you're forgetting all the times I'm sided with you against people who attack you because of the subjects you choose to post on continuously.

You're on your own now though. Enjoy!

I have forgotten nothing, nor should one make me forget another.
What makes you think I have forgotten anything? I have indicated nothing of the kind.

do the words "preaching to the choir" mean anything to you? Most of us agree with your premise, I think, so I don't understand why you persist in being so confrontational . . . over a subject with little controversy here.

Too funny, thanks man.

yeah I just re-read the whole thing. There's nothing i said in that thread that I would think anyone could consider to be insulting to rkz at all. Quite the contrary. I suppose maybe it must have been insulting to rkz in some way though. How that could be I simply can not fathom.

I don't think I am.
I don't say religious people are stupid, people should not be religious on their own time or anything of that kind at all.
I post different stories about different aspects, not only separation of church and state, but abuse of religious authority and other types of stories... not one at all and not one aspect of each.
Again, if that is what one sees it is not my fault and I will not pander to an inability to take each thread for what it is.
No one bitches about the news stories, "all you do is post news"!

Ali was defending you and your behavior in that thread. Is that what you think is funny?

Yes they do. We all know how to get news if we want it - so people do bitch when someone posts a news story and doesn't at least hint at the discussion they're trying to start.
But most people here have learned to not bother trying to discuss anything with you as you're not capable in that regard.

Every time you post a new article you might just as well be bumping one you've posted before. The "discussions" all go the same way.

I posted two different opinions that I have on this subject in the title post jinx, you are completely incorrect.