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Aliantha 03-18-2008 11:29 PM

Cream
 
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Cream used to come in pitchers. These days it comes in little plastic trapezoids. If you get any of it into your coffee instead of onto your shirt, what it tastes like is water, hydrogenated palm kernel oil, sodium caseinate, sugar, di-potassium phosphate, propylene glycol monostearate, polysorbate 60, stearolyle-lactilate, salt, artificial flavor and color. That's what it tastes like because that's what it is. The advantage over cream is that it costs less and doesn't spoil as fast. Note that this is an advantage to the coffee shop, not to the coffee drinker. A further advantage is that waitresses, whose lives used to be boring, are now steadily amused as one customer after another squirts himself in the chest and utters hilarious and innovative oaths.
--Charles Kuralt, _Dateline America_
What I've often wondered (after watching lots of american tv) is when someone asks if you want cream and sugar in your coffee, do they actually mean milk, or do they really mean cream, in which case, isn't it normally real cream rather than that stuff that comes out of cans?

lumberjim 03-18-2008 11:38 PM

cream = half & half

Aliantha 03-18-2008 11:39 PM

half milk and half cream? real cream?

lumberjim 03-18-2008 11:40 PM

A mixture of half milk and half cream. It has 10-12% milkfat and cannot be whipped.
plural: half-and-half Ingredient
Season: available year-round
Substitutions: Equal parts milk and cream
1 cup half and half = 1 cup less 2 tablespoons milk plus 1 1/2 tablespoons melted butter

Aliantha 03-18-2008 11:42 PM

that's what we'd call full cream milk over here. But if we were asking for it at a cafe, we'd just say milk. If you wanted low fat milk, you'd ask for a 'skinny chino' for example or a 'skinny latte'. Meaning a coffee made with low fat milk or trim/skim.

xoxoxoBruce 03-18-2008 11:48 PM

C'mon, your whole milk has 10-12% butterfat? :headshake

classicman 03-19-2008 12:06 AM

Nonfat milk, 1% milk, 2% milk ... half & half, cream. Personally I prefer 1/2 &1/2 - after my cholesterol scare its the only fat laden thing I still consume.

monster 03-19-2008 12:07 AM

It ain't regular milk.

half and half is a disgusting American-only gloopy white conconction. You're safer going for black in a coffee bar here, although you have to call it African American.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 12:09 AM

I don't know Bruce. I'm just trying to understand the comparison. Maybe there is more fat in the stuff you lot serve in your coffee.

My point is when someone says they want milk in their coffee, they'll get full cream not light milk unless they ask for it specifically. If the fat content is higher in what you refer to as 'cream' for your coffee, then it doesn't really matter does it? Who really gives a fuck if I'm wrong anyway? You're all so intent on setting out to prove it around here. I sometimes wonder why I bother posting at all.

Anyway, I imagine whole milk is the same or similar across the world, so I guess it could be googled if you care enough to find out.

monster 03-19-2008 12:13 AM

If you ask for milk in your coffee here, you might as well proclaim your atheismand homosexuality at the same time. Milk is for kids and cereal.

DucksNuts 03-19-2008 12:15 AM

Half n Half is Reduced Fat Cream over here, Ali.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 12:16 AM

thanks ducks.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 12:35 AM

Actually, that makes sense. I bought low fat cream once, and tried to whip it with no success. Now I know why.

lumberjim 03-19-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 439865)
I don't know Bruce. I'm just trying to understand the comparison. Maybe there is more fat in the stuff you lot serve in your coffee.

My point is when someone says they want milk in their coffee, they'll get full cream not light milk unless they ask for it specifically. If the fat content is higher in what you refer to as 'cream' for your coffee, then it doesn't really matter does it? Who really gives a fuck if I'm wrong anyway? You're all so intent on setting out to prove it around here. I sometimes wonder why I bother posting at all.

holy fucking touchy mcoversensitive. you totally started it by contradicting what i put up in answer to your question about america......which apparently was just asked to give you the opportunity to talk about yourself as usual... full cream milk is 4-5 %. whole milk. there's 2% , 1% and nonfat also.

if anyone has been shitty lately, it's fucking YOU. i wonder why you bother to post sometime my damn self.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 12:44 AM

No, I asked a question and then attempted to discuss it in order to understand. I'm not an expert on milk or dairy products so how would I know?

I gave information so that people could understand the perspective I was speaking from

You can ask your cronies and yourself why I've been short with you lately. I"m sure you'll come up with some warped idea about me hating america and everything in it, but as per usual, you'd be wrong. You've got no fucking idea mr mcfuckingnoidea.

lumberjim 03-19-2008 12:54 AM

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i dont know about all that.....and i dont know who my cronies are.....and if you want to tell me why youve been short.....be a man and tell me.....or dont.

what i DO know is that the who's online feature seems to have been improved:

Aliantha 03-19-2008 12:59 AM

Very mature.

I dislike the attitude that you take with regard to what you think my attitude is towards America.

I think you and your wife and your mate monster are like a pack of mongrel dogs with lookout snapping at your heals when you feel like ganging up on people and your behaviour is disgusting. If you think I'm anti american then whatever. I don't really give a fuck anymore. You can all kiss my far superior Australian arse for all I care.

How's that for straight?

lumberjim 03-19-2008 01:08 AM

when people share an opinion or agree about the way some one is acting, it is not always 'ganging up'

you regularly behave as if you know all about america and why your cuntry is so much better. clearly, your opinions are based on what you watch on television... and your judgmental tones and hater attitude have begun to define you. so, stop being a bitch, and go back to being an empty headed animal food trough wiper or i will taunt you a second time.

ps....that's not a typo.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 01:11 AM

You know, I might think you were right and I'm the one with the problem, but clearly, I'm not the only person who feels this way about you and your little clique.

I tried being nice to all of you and what happened? One day you went rabid and decided to be a bunch of cunts.

ps...that's not a typo.

Oh yeah, once bitten twice shy. arsehole.

lumberjim 03-19-2008 01:13 AM

ive got no clique. and neither do you.

goodnight.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 01:15 AM

wrong again.

DucksNuts 03-19-2008 04:47 AM

I just typed, deleted, typed, deleted.

So now all I can come up with is....

Fuck up, both of you.

Shawnee123 03-19-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 439868)
If you ask for milk in your coffee here, you might as well proclaim your atheismand homosexuality at the same time. Milk is for kids and cereal.

And Trix are for kids! :rolleyes:

HungLikeJesus 03-19-2008 10:37 AM

You never know what you're going to get when you open a thread titled "Cream."

Beest 03-19-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 439886)
my far superior Australian arse for

Pics or shens, Ducks is keping the whole antipodean end up all by herself.

IMHO they don't know cream from a kick up the bum here.

No real cream cakes, eclairs. elephants feet etc. they have this gooey stuff they put in pastry, but it's not the same thing :sniff:

I don't know about in Oz, but DanaC and SG beware if they venture to this heathen land.

My scones have to go with just jam, 'oh the humanity!

Flint 03-19-2008 12:13 PM

LJ has a Dallas Cowboys desktop?! I can see the new stadium being built from where I work.

Sundae 03-19-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beest (Post 440001)
I don't know about in Oz, but DanaC and SG beware if they venture to this heathen land.

My scones have to go with just jam, 'oh the humanity!

This may just be relevant now that I have a proper job and can do grown up things like savings. I'll be relying on you & monster to write me a translation book.

And if I ever make it to Aus I'll require the same from Ali, Ducks et al.

I'm glad I don't take milk in my coffee.
But I shudder to think what the Merkins do to tea...

Clodfobble 03-19-2008 01:35 PM

The one thing Americans never do to tea is put milk in it. My entire English class was aghast when our British professor started talking about it like it was the most normal thing.

You can get "milk teas" (with tapioca pearls and a hugeass straw) in Japanese bubble tea shops, but they are specialties, and not really considered tea.

lookout123 03-19-2008 01:44 PM

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I think you and your wife and your mate monster are like a pack of mongrel dogs with lookout snapping at your heals
Hey, step the fuck off. How did i get dragged into your little martyr act? i don't remember even having a beef with you.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 05:29 PM

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oh please don't start the australia/US shit again. not even joking.
familiar?

lookout123 03-19-2008 05:37 PM

Yeah, in a thread where the posters were joking about the relative taste of Australian v Americans. You've got a serious persecution complex.

Aliantha 03-19-2008 05:43 PM

yeah, and not surprising either.

I apologise if you did mean your comment in the best of intentions. The other three know what I'm talking about though. They can deal with it however they like.

DucksNuts 03-19-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 440044)
The one thing Americans never do to tea is put milk in it. My entire English class was aghast when our British professor started talking about it like it was the most normal thing.

You can get "milk teas" (with tapioca pearls and a hugeass straw) in Japanese bubble tea shops, but they are specialties, and not really considered tea.

If I am having cold green tea....no milk.

As we speak I am enjoying a hot tea, with sugarine and Skinny Milk. :D

When I was over in the States everyone thought I was mad for having hot tea with milk in the morning.

monster 03-19-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 439886)
Very mature.

I dislike the attitude that you take with regard to what you think my attitude is towards America.

I think you and your wife and your mate monster are like a pack of mongrel dogs with lookout snapping at your heals when you feel like ganging up on people and your behaviour is disgusting. If you think I'm anti american then whatever. I don't really give a fuck anymore. You can all kiss my far superior Australian arse for all I care.

How's that for straight?


WTF planet are you on? did you actually read anything I posted or just make assumptions? Did I make one untoward comment about you or your question? Where?

monster 03-19-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 439864)
It ain't regular milk.

half and half is a disgusting American-only gloopy white conconction. You're safer going for black in a coffee bar here, although you have to call it African American.

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 439868)
If you ask for milk in your coffee here, you might as well proclaim your atheismand homosexuality at the same time. Milk is for kids and cereal.

Here: My only two comments in this thread. Mocking the merkins and their nasty white stuff, perhaps. But not you. My answer may not have been the most helpful, but in what way does it count as ganging up on you? hmm?

Aliantha 03-19-2008 06:07 PM

Think about the last time you saw me in the chat room monster. Remember some of the nasty things that the three of you had to say.

And yeah, it's only words, so why do I care? Maybe because I'm sick of being told what I think about America. I'm sick of not being able to talk about Australia in a positive light without being accused of hating America. Just because I make a comment one way or another doesn't mean I hate America or Americans. It simply means that I think that particular way about that particular aspect.

The biggest problem is that the internet is full of Americans, so it doesn't matter where you go, you end up with the same accusations if you choose to enter into discussions about world events.

monster 03-19-2008 07:00 PM

erm... I'm not American....

..and you are completely off your trolley..... or is it the wagon you fell off and that's the problem?

It isn't all about you, honey. This permanent victim thing is becoming a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? And a little tiresome to boot. I hope you feel better soon. :)

Aliantha 03-19-2008 07:06 PM

At no point have I suggested you're American. That didn't stop you from jumping on the bandwagon though did it?

Oh and btw, keep your false concern to yourself. You only make yourself look pathetic with your smart remarks. Ask around.

monster 03-19-2008 07:26 PM

what bandwagon?

Griff 03-19-2008 07:29 PM

Let's get back on topic.


jinx 03-19-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 440169)
The other three know what I'm talking about though. They can deal with it however they like.

Leave me out of your miserable bullshit ali, I'm not interested.

DucksNuts 03-19-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 440184)
erm... I'm not American....

..and you are completely off your trolley..... or is it the wagon you fell off and that's the problem?

It isn't all about you, honey. This permanent victim thing is becoming a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? And a little tiresome to boot. I hope you feel better soon. :)

And yours is what? Permanently on the hunt?

You arent happy unless you have someone to follow around, respond to their posts in a passive aggressive manner.

The shit slinging is very tiresome.

Pot.Kettle.Black regarding the wagon me thinks.

monster 03-19-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440193)

The shit slinging is very tiresome.


You are right.

classicman 03-19-2008 08:39 PM

Spring is about to spring.

Sundae 03-20-2008 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440172)
As we speak I am enjoying a hot tea, with sugarine and Skinny Milk. :D

When I was over in the States everyone thought I was mad for having hot tea with milk in the morning.

I drink my tea de-caff these days, but the mornings (hot or cold) wouldn't be the same without a proper cuppa. Tetley De-Caff, mashed teabag, milk in last, strong enough to trot a mouse across. Aaaaaaaah!

BTW my new boss - from Adelaide - believes you should put the milk in first for both tea & coffee. I therefore assume this is an Australian tradition and claim all Aussies to be heathens too. I am staying at home and spending all my new wages on myself - travelling is too fraught with danger.

DucksNuts 03-20-2008 07:13 AM

No no no no!!! You scald the milk if you put the milk in first.

I like my really strong.

Those Adelaidians are a weird breed, they only just got the internetz there you know.

lumberjim 03-20-2008 09:16 AM

my mom puts milk in her tea. I grew up thinking that that was normal behavior. On the rare occasion that i drink tea, I drink peppermint tea with nothing in it.

Flint 03-20-2008 09:24 AM

lumberjim is a fancy, tea-drinking lady

lumberjim 03-20-2008 09:43 AM

you're picturing my pinky extended as I sip from a dainty porcelain teacup.

i think that makes you gay.

Flint 03-20-2008 09:46 AM

teabag

Beest 03-20-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440272)
No no no no!!! You scald the milk if you put the milk in first.

You say it like it's a bad thing:sniff:

In our own personal tea ceremony I take two cups, pint sized at least, one with a white inner, one black ( we'll both do green, she'll do the blues I don't like them). I put some milk in the white one and half fill it ( PG, loose leaf) then fill the the black one, then top off the first one and milk the second.

I like the white inner, milk in first, monster has the milk second. The difference in taste and colour is obvious and we don't like each others.

I think alot of Americans are drinking 'erbal teas, Earl grey, green tea etc. that I agree shouldn't be drunk with milk ( can't stand them myself anyway.)
British tea, PG tips, Tetley, Red label, is a blend and I think needs to be drunk with milk.

PG Tips wiki
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PG Tips is imported as single estate teas from around the world and blended in precise proportions set by the tea tasters to make blend 777, which can contain between 12 and 35 single estate teas at any one time (depending on season, etc.) at the Trafford Park factory in Manchester.
Anyway, back to cream, anyone for whipping ? :whip:

Sundae 03-20-2008 12:29 PM

Oh I agree with things like peppermint, nettle, fruit teas etc - they would be too grim with milk. But you know that "tea" meas good old British tea unless stated otherwise.

I wonder why I put the milk in last? My parents put it in first. Their tea always looks nicer but tastes milkier. Mine has floaty brown bits and makes the roof of my mouth sing.

HungLikeJesus 03-20-2008 12:40 PM

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I've been considering buying this book:

The Lady Tasting Tea: How Statistics Revolutionized Science in the Twentieth Century



Griff 03-20-2008 03:45 PM

I like mine prepared much like Sundaes'. She missed the final steps in the process, however. Carefully carry the cup to the sink. Pour the tea down the drain. Take the now warm cup and add black coffee.

kerosene 03-20-2008 04:18 PM

I like Earl Gray or English Breakfast with a little bit of whole milk (to me, that is cream, since my ingestion of dairy is so seldom) and perhaps a little bit of sugar. I love the way the cream looks when I stir it with a spoon in the tea. Everyone who has ever seen me do this to tea has laughed or balked. I don't know why. It just adds a richness to the tea. I think I learned it from Perth, who, incidentally lived in England for 2 years as a child. Perhaps that is where he learned to put "cream" in tea?

I don't drink much tea these days.

Aliantha 03-20-2008 06:32 PM

putting the milk into your tea first is a bit weird, especially if you're using a tea bag, but even if you're using leaf tea and a pot you put the milk in second if you're at my house anyway. I'll second what Ducks said about Adelaidians. They're just plain weird down there...and they talk funny too.

DucksNuts 03-21-2008 05:37 AM

I dont think the tea is as strong if you put the milk in the first.

I read/heard somewhere, that the leaves and paper stuff needs a certain temperature to release correctly, so to me, I should get a stronger tea if I dont put cold milk on the bag. LexLogic that is.

One of those stupids *myths* my Pa used to say, was you would get red haired children if you put the milk in first.

Sundae 03-21-2008 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440538)
One of those stupids *myths* my Pa used to say, was you would get red haired children if you put the milk in first.

We need to check in with LabRat about this!

I was always told if I ate my crusts I'd get curly hair. I wonder which came first, the fact that I love crusts or the fact I've always wanted curly hair...

Trilby 03-21-2008 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts (Post 440538)
One of those stupids *myths* my Pa used to say, was you would get red haired children if you put the milk in first.

So that's what I can tell Danny's "father"... :D

skysidhe 03-21-2008 03:19 PM

Chi tea in packets is black spiced tea and I do add half n half to it. My mother in law drinks tea with milk and she is a red blooded American.


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