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SteveBsjb 03-31-2008 08:48 AM

Nobel Prize-winner Al Gore practices what he preached
 
Nobel Prize-winner Al Gore practices what he preached in his film An Inconvenient Truth, driving home the need to reduce harmful carbon emissions in our homes, cars and businesses. The former vice president and his wife, Tipper, recently refurbished their 80-year-old home in Tennessee, making some simple adjustments to increase energy efficiency. Among other changes, they installed a geothermal heating system, solar panels and a rainwater collection system, and replaced their light bulbs with compact fluorescent and diode bulbs. The renovation helped them achieve an 11 percent drop in home energy consumption at a time (in the summer) when most neighboring homes increased energy consumption by 25-30 percent. Happy 60th birthday to environmental activist Al Gore.

xoxoxoBruce 03-31-2008 11:24 AM

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making some simple adjustments to increase energy efficiency
A million of dollars worth of "simple adjustments', yielded...
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an 11 percent drop in home energy consumption

HungLikeJesus 03-31-2008 11:35 AM

I achieved a 50% drop in electricity consumption just by turning off my hot tub.

Cicero 03-31-2008 12:34 PM

That's why you are head of the "cellar think tank un-il-limited".
:)

lookout123 03-31-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 442851)
A million of dollars worth of "simple adjustments', yielded...

You're just jealous that you didn't come up with this scam. He convinced a bunch of geniuses to buy carbon credits from him and then used the money to remodel his already extravagant home so that even more people would buy his BS and buy more carbon credits. If only he'd been this smart in 2000, eh?

glatt 04-01-2008 10:50 AM

It's fun to attack the messenger when you don't like the message.

Flint 04-01-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 442999)
It's fun to attack the messenger when you don't like the message.

What the fuck are you talking about, shit-for-brains?

glatt 04-01-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 443000)
What the fuck are you talking about, shit-for-brains?

:rolleyes:

Al Gore's thing is to raise awareness about global warming. He wants people to reduce carbon emissions to reduce the threat of global warming. Reducing carbon emissions is painful and unpopular. Instead of talking about the message that Al Gore is delivering, and the best way to fight global warming, it's easier and more fun to mock Al Gore and talk about how he isn't a good role model for carbon reduction.

lookout123 04-01-2008 11:44 AM

Or I could just say that I think Al Gore is a has been politician who'll do or say anything to say in the news. Global warming or not, I don't put much stock in Gore.

Flint 04-01-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 443003)
Al Gore's thing is to raise awareness about global warming. He wants people to reduce carbon emissions to reduce the threat of global warming. Reducing carbon emissions is painful and unpopular. Instead of talking about the message that Al Gore is delivering, and the best way to fight global warming, it's easier and more fun to mock Al Gore and talk about how he isn't a good role model for carbon reduction.

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 443006)
Or I could just say that I think Al Gore is a has been politician who'll do or say anything to say in the news. Global warming or not, I don't put much stock in Gore.

That's not an "or" to what glatt posted; that's a "for instance" to what he posted.

Undertoad 04-01-2008 11:47 AM

I find the term "awareness" to be baseline offensive at this point. People think it means "education" when it really means "knowing just enough to act politically about it and no more". I find those whose goal is to "increase awareness" care about appearances and political correctness and not much else. The easiest way to annoy somebody who cares about "awareness" would be to give them contradictory facts. It's educational, and a matter of critical thinking to consider all sides. But they don't want to know about that.

I also find that Gore's previous hypocracy is not magically solved now that he has cleaned up his own house for the last year. The thirty years previous? Not so critical.

Nor is it critical to hold a global warming summit in Bali and to have everybody fly across the world in their Gulfstream personal jets to attend. We communicate right here on the net without really contributing to G.W. But no, everybody has to fly to a south pacific resort destination to figure it out. And I'll tellya, if they actually believe it's the biggest problem on the planet and going to seriously harm our way of life, nobody is flying to Bali. Is there man-caused warming, yes, and these fuckers caused it.

lookout123 04-01-2008 11:48 AM

Fair enough. My "or" was actually following on from my own earlier post which was meant as a tongue in cheek poke in the ribs not some deep statement.

spudcon 04-01-2008 04:51 PM

But Al Gore is still a dork and an attention whore.

SteveBsjb 04-01-2008 07:42 PM

I like Al Gore. Inconvenient Truth was good. It was interesting to learn about his son, dad, and sister.

smoothmoniker 04-01-2008 10:45 PM

Stuff White People Like: Awareness

JJ.Thyself 04-01-2008 11:10 PM


But Now Honestly......Before this "Savin the Earth" Shite Became Popular, How Much Did Gorey Boy ACTUALLY DO for this Planet...

If You Ask Me, then Thyself would say he Probably was a Fluid Energy Waster like the Rest of Us.....Al Gore, an Environmentalist, HA!!!!!!

And Does Anyone Else Know that Al Gore is Part Owner of the Carbon Credit Shit? So the More the Avid, Smart, Concerned Citizen Buys...the Better Ol' Ally Lives Off the Hard Workin, Bill Payin, Average Ol' American..

...Go Mr. Gore Go, Let's Just See How "Silly" the American Public Really Is...

tw 04-01-2008 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 443044)
But Al Gore is still a dork and an attention whore.

Anyone who innovates or who tries to create change or who runs for political office to actually advance mankind is (by your definition) an attention whore. Therefore attention whores are very desireable. Therefore the world need more attention whores.

JJ.Thyself 04-01-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ.Thyself (Post 443112)
But Now Honestly......Before this "Savin the Earth" Shite Became Popular, How Much Did Gorey Boy ACTUALLY DO for this Planet...

If You Ask Me, then Thyself would say he Probably was a Fluid Energy Waster like the Rest of Us.....Al Gore, an Environmentalist, HA!!!!!!

And Does Anyone Else Know that Al Gore is Part Owner of the Carbon Credit Shit? So the More the Avid, Smart, Concerned Citizen Buys...the Better Ol' Ally Lives Off the Hard Workin, Bill Payin, Average Ol' American..

...Go Mr. Gore Go, Let's Just See How "Silly" the American Public Really Is...


TheMercenary 04-02-2008 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveBsjb (Post 442822)
Nobel Prize-winner Al Gore practices what he preached in his film An Inconvenient Truth, driving home the need to reduce harmful carbon emissions in our homes, cars and businesses. The former vice president and his wife, Tipper, recently refurbished their 80-year-old home in Tennessee, making some simple adjustments to increase energy efficiency. Among other changes, they installed a geothermal heating system, solar panels and a rainwater collection system, and replaced their light bulbs with compact fluorescent and diode bulbs. The renovation helped them achieve an 11 percent drop in home energy consumption at a time (in the summer) when most neighboring homes increased energy consumption by 25-30 percent. Happy 60th birthday to environmental activist Al Gore.

That is awesome, how about his other 10,000 sq foot home in Calif? How about all the fuel he wastes jeting around the world to tell us how we need to cut down on the emissions? Hypocrite extraordinaire.
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spudcon 04-02-2008 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 443115)
Anyone who innovates or who tries to create change or who runs for political office to actually advance mankind is (by your definition) an attention whore. Therefore attention whores are very desireable. Therefore the world need more attention whores.

No, that's your definition. But Al Gore is not trying to advance mankind, he's trying to advance Al Gore. He's been successful at it, not because of the academy award, but because he hoodwinked the Nobel Prize Committee into believing junk science.

Cloud 04-02-2008 01:07 PM

ask not what the planet can do for you. ask what you can do for the planet. from this moment forward.

Al Gore has the potential to do a lot of good for this cause--more than you or me.

TheMercenary 04-03-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 443309)
ask not what the planet can do for you. ask what you can do for the planet. from this moment forward.

Al Gore has the potential to do a lot of good for this cause--more than you or me.

I am all for the first part. Fuck Al Gore.

SteveBsjb 04-04-2008 01:12 AM

People CAN change for the better. Change forever. Even you!

tw 04-04-2008 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 443214)
No, that's your definition. But Al Gore is not trying to advance mankind, he's trying to advance Al Gore. He's been successful at it, not because of the academy award, but because he hoodwinked the Nobel Prize Committee into believing junk science.

You proof? I don't see any supporting facts or reasons in any of your posts? I hear Rush Limbaugh rhetoric. Is your knowledge only from Rush? Where is that long post with five supporting reasons why? There is a difference between us. I don't post emotions, then declare that as proof.

Conclusions justified by political agendas need no supporting facts. Posted is nothing but a political agenda - obviously - because the post is so pathetically short. A post that short is either a political lie or a good joke. Oh. A belated April Fool's joke. Sorry, Al. I did not realize it was you.

Griff 04-04-2008 05:46 AM

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I find the term "awareness" to be baseline offensive at this point. People think it means "education" when it really means "knowing just enough to act politically about it and no more".


spudcon 04-04-2008 05:58 PM

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You proof? I don't see any supporting facts or reasons in any of your posts? I hear Rush Limbaugh rhetoric. Is your knowledge only from Rush? Where is that long post with five supporting reasons why? There is a difference between us. I don't post emotions, then declare that as proof.

Conclusions justified by political agendas need no supporting facts. Posted is nothing but a political agenda - obviously - because the post is so pathetically short. A post that short is either a political lie or a good joke. Oh. A belated April Fool's joke. Sorry, Al. I did not realize it was you.

I don't need Rush Limbaugh or Al gore to mold my opinions. I do know enough about science to know a charlatan when I see one, and I've seen Al Gore say enough ignorant things in his bumbling career to know George W Bush is a genius compared to Gore.

spudcon 04-04-2008 06:23 PM

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Five supporting reasons for bogus man made global warming?
1. The carbon emissions of all of mankind's history are minimal compared to volcanos.
2. Carbon dioxide has been produced by living organisms since the beginning of life on earth. Some of the largest were dinosaurs, and they surely must have generated more greenhouse gases than a few million cows burping.
3. The sun controls our climate, and heating and cooling cycles are just that, cyclical.
4. It is ridiculous to think that man's bumbling could destroy a planet merely by living on it. It's just as foolish to think that people living without modern conveniences could save a planet. Granted, a massive nuclear war could seriously damage the environment, but destroying the American culture, and causing suffering throughout the world won't stop nuclear war. Nor will buying carbon credits from Al Gore.
5. 6 tenths pf a temperature increase in a century is not cause for panic. Nor is the melting of arctic ice. It has happened before, and there were no SUVs back then.

As for Gore putting energy saving products in one of his mansions, that didn't start until he got caught with his pants down wating resources.

HungLikeJesus 04-04-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 443859)
Five supporting reasons for bogus man made global warming?
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2. Carbon dioxide has been produced by living organisms since the beginning of life on earth. Some of the largest were dinosaurs, and they surely must have generated more greenhouse gases than a few million cows burping.
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That's why the dinosaurs are all dead.

classicman 04-04-2008 07:16 PM

Oooooo snap!

TheMercenary 04-12-2008 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 443862)
That's why the dinosaurs are all dead.

Not a bad thing. Maybe it's time for Mother Nature to start over and give this world the enema it so deserves.

JJ.Thyself 04-12-2008 02:39 PM

Ya Know...We Do Need the Enema...
 
Ya Know...We Do Need the Enema............So Let's Just Go and Flush ALL THE DEMOCRATS DOWN THE SHITTER AND RID THE WORLD OF THAT MOST DESTRUCTIVE TOXIN.........Yep, That Sounds Ok With Me....:finger: :finger: :finger:

JJ.Thyself 04-12-2008 02:58 PM

No Truthfully...........Not that That isn't Truthful, but this is more about the issue of Mother Nature, not the Devil Party that's Presently Making Me Cringe...

The truth is if the Democratic Party and the Republican Party don't get a "Groove On' to Come to a Cost Effective and More Importantly, a Way that Works to Solve this Problem we're Facing, There will be Extreme Problems that We, as Humans, Will be Facing... Only Time Will Tell Though...

I Hope for the Best...

Ibby 04-12-2008 03:54 PM

Hey UG! I found you a new friend!

Sundae 04-12-2008 04:19 PM

I don't care - I have no children and will run out of the option to have them in T-Minus 7 years (approx)

But in truth I was brought up by a post WWII UK generation to hate waste - even though their drive for the spangly and new and clean after living next to bombsites drove them to crave packaging and individually sealed items.

Sod whether Al Gore is right or perpetuating some bizarre lie - why wouldn't you do your best to preserve the planet's resources?

spudcon 04-19-2008 08:55 PM

What would be everyone's response to Al Gore if he said that because man has caused global warming, we're going to take a lesson from the Chinese and limit your reproduction to one child per lifetime? With forced abortions, and prison or death for offenders? Would he still be saving the planet?

TheMercenary 04-19-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 446961)
What would be everyone's response to Al Gore if he said that because man has caused global warming, we're going to take a lesson from the Chinese and limit your reproduction to one child per lifetime? With forced abortions, and prison or death for offenders? Would he still be saving the planet?

I am all for it.

TheMercenary 04-19-2008 08:59 PM

How about we just kill off everyone between 14 and 21?

Ibby 04-20-2008 01:38 AM

Or everybody over fifty?

TheMercenary 04-20-2008 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 447017)
Or everybody over fifty?

Be ok with me. I am not 50.

piercehawkeye45 04-22-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 446961)
What would be everyone's response to Al Gore if he said that because man has caused global warming, we're going to take a lesson from the Chinese and limit your reproduction to one child per lifetime? With forced abortions, and prison or death for offenders? Would he still be saving the planet?

If the world become so unstable that we needed to emplace extreme population control measures to avoid a major economic collapse then yes, he would be saving the planet.

kerosene 04-22-2008 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 447446)
If the world become so unstable that we needed to emplace extreme population control measures to avoid a major economic collapse then yes, he would be saving the planet.

economic collapse would destroy the planet? Shit! I better get rich, or I am contributing!


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