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Trilby 04-21-2008 09:57 AM

Did you see the movie MONSTER?
 
with Cherlize Theron; about Aileen Wurnous?

Sometimes I can relate to Aileen Wurnous. does that make me bad?

Radar 04-21-2008 10:09 AM

Yes, and yes if the part you relate to is killing people. :)

Cicero 04-21-2008 10:11 AM

Yes and No....That doesn't make you bad.

Now sometimes I relate to Angelina Jolie in "Girl Interrupted". That means I'm just plain evil and I know it. And here's the kicker: and I don't even care....Sometimes it's ok to have an inner monster. The health professionals say if you don't embrace that part of yourself every once in awhile it will sublimate and become something even less healthy.

Dr. Cicero will be here all week..
:)

Shawnee123 04-21-2008 10:13 AM

I'm Winona Ryder to your Angelina Jolie.

My inner monster has put me in harm's way, once again.

"Eat in chicken"

;)

Sundae 04-21-2008 11:34 AM

I cried when Medusa lost the diamond in The Rescuers.
That makes me a cartoon villain, not a monster.

Trilby 04-21-2008 11:39 AM

I know Aileen was bad, bad, bad and a psychopath...I don't want to kill anyone (well, maybe in my head I shoot people who drive like asshats in traffic but that's an acceptable thing now-days) but sometimes I feel like I try and try and try and some bitch is always going, "but, you HAVE to go back to being a prostitute! How else will we live? You PROMISED me a house on the beach..." you know, the Christina Ricci character who EGGED Aileen on, even when she was trying desperately to go straight (which was really sad).

anyway---glad to see I'm not the only one. :)

Trilby 04-21-2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 447253)
Yes and No....That doesn't make you bad.

Now sometimes I relate to Angelina Jolie in "Girl Interrupted". That means I'm just plain evil and I know it. And here's the kicker: and I don't even care....Sometimes it's ok to have an inner monster. The health professionals say if you don't embrace that part of yourself every once in awhile it will sublimate and become something even less healthy.

Dr. Cicero will be here all week..
:)


nicely put. :)

jinx 04-21-2008 12:04 PM

Man, that was great movie. Did Cherlize win any awards.... she totally nailed it.

Trilby 04-21-2008 01:00 PM

yeah, Oscar, best actress. Was awesome performance.

skysidhe 04-22-2008 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 447276)
I know Aileen was bad, bad, bad and a psychopath...I don't want to kill anyone (well, maybe in my head I shoot people who drive like asshats in traffic but that's an acceptable thing now-days) but sometimes I feel like I try and try and try and some bitch is always going, "but, you HAVE to go back to being a prostitute! How else will we live? You PROMISED me a house on the beach..." you know, the Christina Ricci character who EGGED Aileen on, even when she was trying desperately to go straight (which was really sad).

anyway---glad to see I'm not the only one. :)


I couldn't tell if you were channeling charlize or telling about it.:greenface No I didn't see the demented psycho movie because I am truly sensitive but 'girl interrupted' was tame enough.

We all have our inner dragons tho.

Trilby 04-22-2008 01:35 PM

I don't know WHAT I was doing. Just more post-CA blah blah blah I suppose.

skysidhe 04-22-2008 01:58 PM

I was think'in you were just sensitive too ;)


So Christina Ricci character EGGED Aileen ?

wow, it almost makes me want to sympathize a bit. That part intriques me. damn..

Trilby 04-22-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skysidhe (Post 447447)
I was think'in you were just sensitive too ;)


So Christina Ricci character EGGED Aileen ?

wow, it almost makes me want to sympathize a bit. That part intriques me. damn..

It is a powerful movie; I felt the Ricci character egged Aileen on, definitely. Anyone else who saw the movie feel that way?

It is a pretty brutal portrayal of human depravity, sky. Not everyone is really up for that. I've been told not to study certain authors (by professors, no less) because of my personality and the conflict it might create if i did. weird, huh?

Shawnee123 04-22-2008 03:05 PM

I thought it was a powerful movie, too. Despite my brother saying the way for a beautiful actress to win an Oscar is to ugly her up, Charlize deserved that Oscar in ways I'm not always sure the winners do.

I saw Ricci's character as egging her. The needy younger person in the relationship; the older person trying to be the strong one, the provider, and getting into situations in order to provide for the needy one.

I think it's rather unforgiveable for a professor to advise you not to read certain things due to your personality. What, I can't read Poe any more because I'm about halfway there myself? Bah. That's the biggest pile of crap I've heard in a long time.

An unexamined life is not worth living. Shielding yourself from the difficult things is no way to live.

However, if you're prone to reading Danielle Steele while eating a gallon of ice cream, drinking a pint of vodka, and crying out in the middle of the street, well...I think you could safely say that's not good for anyone. But I wouldn't recommend that reading anyway. ;)

Harry Angstrom forever!

Trilby 04-22-2008 03:24 PM

@shawnee----the professor who threw me out of his class told me NOT to study Plath. TOOO DANGEROUS!!

He's a-scaird a'her!

Shawnee123 04-22-2008 03:26 PM

Philistine!

Well, that's just another point in the old debit column for that bone-head.

skysidhe 04-22-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 447451)
It is a powerful movie; I felt the Ricci character egged Aileen on, definitely. Anyone else who saw the movie feel that way?

It is a pretty brutal portrayal of human depravity, sky. Not everyone is really up for that. I've been told not to study certain authors (by professors, no less) because of my personality and the conflict it might create if i did. weird, huh?


sorry, I had to go sleep for a while.

I heard it is brutal. I think if you can handle that movie you can study whatever the hell you want. Not watching or reading anything should be a very personal decision.

wow,I find myself very annoyed at that dude.:mad:
Because of your personality? wow if a professor said that to me I'd be thinking/imagining a dagger just for him. What a head tripper he is! :meanface: :rattat: yeah take that mister smarty pants. ugg. oh boy...he's got a big dose of bad karma comming his way.

Giant Salamander 04-22-2008 06:33 PM

That was an excellent movie. It did its job quite well.
Very effective. Ruined my day, really. Well done all around.

And I too related to the main character.
Not the killing people part so much as the fact that she felt she was utterly alone in the world, and hated herself. Everybody feels that way, to some extent, at some point in their lives.

monster 04-22-2008 11:05 PM

what movie, hon?

lumberjim 04-23-2008 12:44 AM

Theron's character embarrassed me. that's some powerful acting, motherfucker.

wolf 04-23-2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 447451)
It is a powerful movie; I felt the Ricci character egged Aileen on, definitely. Anyone else who saw the movie feel that way?

I thought that the relationship between the two typified what you get when you put two dysfunctional, needy bitches in the same room.

I do not like borderlines*.

I don't.

but you know that.


_______
* There are a few exceptions to this rule. There are a couple borderlines that I deal with on an unfortunately regular basis for whom I have managed find some endearing quality about. If I don't do this, I'd probably kill them outright where they stand, or smother them with a pillow while they sleep in my lobby, but since they put in the new cameras, there aren't any clear zones, so I guess I'm stuck with them until they do themselves in.

Cicero 04-23-2008 11:22 PM

Like I said before. Your professor should go fuck himself. Until he wooden-screws his sorry ass into the ground. He isn't a literary critic, he's a literary hack. Hack.

Plath bested him by a couple of years, and at least, by developing a mildly bemused character. Hack. Can't you just admit that his false-idolatry deserves shame?

We aren't going to talk about the dried out bitch professor anymore are we? It makes me so tired.*wheeeze* *cough*

Cicero 04-23-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 447628)
I thought that the relationship between the two typified what you get when you put two dysfunctional, needy bitches in the same room.

I do not like borderlines*.

I don't.

but you know that.


_______
* There are a few exceptions to this rule. There are a couple borderlines that I deal with on an unfortunately regular basis for whom I have managed find some endearing quality about. If I don't do this, I'd probably kill them outright where they stand, or smother them with a pillow while they sleep in my lobby, but since they put in the new cameras, there aren't any clear zones, so I guess I'm stuck with them until they do themselves in.

I like you. I have not figured out thus far what you like in the female, at all, thus far. Care to enlighten?

Nice to see you. Whatever.

Needy=Dying

So, from what I have seen, you are the most functional woman I have ever met. Fucking guffaw.

Lets go back to the point where you were trying to eat your fucking pizza when people were trying to die, and interrupting you, of course......

Lets go back to your whole remedial thread. Called....Dying:It's not Dominoes Pizza. "I can tell by how you just won't die by the slice."

I feel sorry for those handicapped people you fucked in the nuthouse. I do. Ratchet has nothing on you. At least she had some character. You are the Sociopath. Get it?

lumberjim 04-23-2008 11:46 PM

holy insane rant, batman.

Cicero 04-23-2008 11:48 PM

Yeppers. Kthnxbai.


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