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footfootfoot 10-02-2008 07:48 AM

Don't vote.
 
Maybe you've seen this. a few clever lines. I like the lighting.

Bullitt 10-02-2008 09:23 AM

Who cares









what celebrities have to say. Last time I checked they aren't famous because of their political prowess.

classicman 10-02-2008 09:57 AM

nor their intelligence - good points Bullitt

Cicero 10-02-2008 10:19 AM

Comedians are supposed to heckle. I'm just not sure that voting is something you should be heckled about on a daily basis.

Bullitt 10-02-2008 10:30 AM

I wonder how they feel about being just glorified billboards. They're being used as a marketing tool, an attention getter. That's it, there is no substance.

classicman 10-02-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 489027)
I wonder how they feel about being just glorified billboards. They're being used as a marketing tool, attention whores. That's it, they have no substance.


fixed that for ya ;)

Sundae 10-02-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 489002)
Who cares what celebrities have to say. Last time I checked they aren't famous because of their political prowess.

Wha? They're not giving a political opinion. They're telling people that in a representational democracy the only power you have is to vote.
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 489012)
nor their intelligence - good points Bullitt

I don't care about their IQ - if anything I'm more concerned that people who don't realise that voting is important are gettign a reminder. But even stupid people's votes count
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 489022)
Comedians are supposed to heckle. I'm just not sure that voting is something you should be heckled about on a daily basis.

People died to get the vote. Over here, in America. Women certainly. Blacks certainly. Probably other groups.

I mean good luck with your cynicism and all, but I happen to think it's pretty important and I don't lose any respect for "celebrities" in our celebrity culture NOT trying to push their political views on the populace, but instead telling them somethign as simple as No Vote, No Choice.

Shawnee123 10-02-2008 12:15 PM

:notworthy:

Thank you for pointing out the cynicism. Sheesh folks...must everything be a big stupid idiotic waste of time in your eyes?

Oh, and by the way, "celebrity" does not automatically equal "stupid." Shame, shame. :headshake

Some folks would rather whine and cry about how there aren't any good choices, then bitch when someone reminds us that this democracy is all we got. Boo-deee-hooo! I'd rather THOSE kind of morons didn't vote at all.

Shawnee123 10-02-2008 12:22 PM

OH, and by the way...how cute is Eva Longoria's new hairdo?

;)

footfootfoot 10-02-2008 12:34 PM

Oh yeah SG! Tell 'em they were bitch slapped by a Brit. ouch. Excellent points. I wish people took the right to vote as more of an obligation.

Bullit, classicman and cicero are all making ad hominem attacks. Yeah celebrities might all be air headed douches but that is not what makes their points valid or invalid. look at the argument not the arguers.

classicman 10-02-2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 489078)
But even stupid people's votes count

People died to get the vote. Over here, in America. Women certainly. Blacks certainly. Probably other groups.

Both sad but true statements.

classicman 10-02-2008 12:39 PM

For the record - I believe it is every Americans OBLIGATION to vote. Anything that will get more people out to vote is a good thing. My opinion on celebrities has not changed and their motives are certainly suspect - at least to me. The message is a worthy one and should be discussed, encouraged & directed toward everyone - not just kids watching youtube who are probably too lazy getting stoned and playing Halo to go vote anyway.

Trilby 10-02-2008 12:50 PM

I don't see nothing up there.


*might need to get eyes checked*

Bullitt 10-02-2008 12:52 PM

I never said anything about their points being valid or invalid. I am just sick of people looking to celebrities for guidance, moral, political, social, etc. These are just regular people and I don't know about you, but I don't take everything my friends say as absolute truth. I think for myself and look to credible sources to form my opinions. Yeah I am cynical, but it's hard not to be with all the mudslinging, hate, and coercive speech that is everywhere these days. Living in a swing state doesn't help either :rolleyes:

classicman 10-02-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 489112)
I don't see nothing up there.


*might need to get eyes checked*

Didn't your mom tell you doing that would make you go blind?

Radar 10-02-2008 01:14 PM

Man I just got a perfect 350 out of 350 at http://www.dontvote.org

They ask you to identify certain people to see if you're someone who should be voting. They said, not only should I vote, I should consider a career in politics. :D

Sundae 10-02-2008 01:20 PM

212 out of 350
(D - You Should Not Be Voting)

Not bad for a furriner I reckon.
And at least I know how to spell Angelina Jolie's surname.

Shawnee123 10-02-2008 01:28 PM

280 of 350.

Well, I knew Boehner, who was the next most missed after Ban ki-moon (who I missed.) :p

Also didn't know Nouri al-Maliki.

glatt 10-02-2008 01:48 PM

Interesting. You only get one point if you correctly ID Angelina Jolie, but if you know who Ahmadinejad is, you get 10 points.

classicman 10-02-2008 01:57 PM

288 out of 350 possible points, or 82.29% - B

Pie 10-02-2008 02:23 PM

349/350 -- I had no idea who Lindsey Lohan was.

BigV 10-02-2008 02:24 PM

You scored 342 out of 350 possible points, or 97.71%

A
You should definitely vote.

missed PM Israel.

they misspelled Jolie :nyah:

Undertoad 10-02-2008 04:52 PM

Implicit in their plea is a kind of assumed superiority that makes me extremely uncomfortable.

Griff 10-02-2008 04:55 PM

One of them accidently mentioned the 2nd Amendment in a good way.

BigV 10-02-2008 05:02 PM

??

are you guys in the wrong thread? What comment? what "one of them"?

BigV 10-02-2008 05:03 PM

oh. sorry. my bad. I was not referencing the op vid. only the quiz thingy. sorry.

footfootfoot 10-02-2008 07:46 PM

At first I was kind of annoyed at the whole tone of the piece, but as I watched it I began to be a little charmed by the delivery and comedy of the people. I only recognized about half of them, I'm not much on stargazing or pop culture. In fact almost everything I know about pop culture I learn here. This is really the only portal I have to culture, such as it is. We never watch TV, rarely listen to radio. The only news we read is the New York Review of Books. (Kind of like literary cliffnotes)

The thing about the message is that it isn't directed at any party. They say "if you care about these issues" you could care either way. Obviously they aren't saying "I'm Leo diCrapio and I think you should save the ice caps" The whole script was obviously written and directed by one or two people. it is coherent and simple. They happen to be people who are pretty to look at who can deliver a line in one or two dozen takes.

Wold the message have been received any differently if the heads had been off off off Broadway actors whom no one knows? Sure some people might perk up when so and so is speaking, but even if Helen Hunt got up there and told me "Footfootfoot, you need to eat this broken glass." I wouldn't do it. But if she said she'd cover me in whipped cream and do me like I've never been done before, well I'd still pass but I'd have an awesome visual to remember the whole thing by.

So vote or I'll rickroll you.

classicman 10-02-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 489241)
So vote or I'll rickroll you.

That's the kind of incentive we need!

xoxoxoBruce 10-02-2008 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 489114)
I never said anything about their points being valid or invalid. I am just sick of people looking to celebrities for guidance, moral, political, social, etc.

But discarding the message out of hand, because they are celebrities, isn't wise. I'm not saying you did that, because you didn't say one way or the other, I'm just saying it's not wise.

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 489196)
Implicit in their plea is a kind of assumed superiority that makes me extremely uncomfortable.

Maybe it's the polished delivery that comes from being a pro, that gives you that impression, more than their confidence in their position?

Undertoad 10-02-2008 11:30 PM

It seems like scolding to me which you can't do except from a superior position.

xoxoxoBruce 10-02-2008 11:55 PM

OK, then it's your perception of their attitude, rather than their position on the issue they are pushing, that turns you off. Fair enough.

footfootfoot 10-03-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 489307)
It seems like scolding to me which you can't do except from a superior position.

I'm so used to being scolded that I don't even hear it anymore. But I know what you mean. plus the sarcasm.

Shawnee123 10-03-2008 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 489465)
I'm so used to being spanked that I don't even feel it anymore. ~snip~

fixed it for ya. :D

Sundae 10-03-2008 09:48 AM

It would be both more honest and yet more patronising to say, "Fucking vote you idiot! Or stop fucking moaning."

I'd like to see it :)

Shawnee123 10-03-2008 09:48 AM

:applause:

classicman 10-03-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 489484)
It would be both more honest and yet more patronising to say, "Fucking vote you idiot! Or stop fucking moaning."

No thanks, there are enough idiots voting already ;)

Cicero 10-03-2008 10:32 AM

oooh...zinger classic!! My opinion isn't actually part of a majority and it still my right to have it, and it would be immoral for me to vote against my conscience. My vote is of the "no confidence" variety.

classicman 10-03-2008 11:51 AM

Sorry Cic - That was just a general statement - not intended toward you or anyone else specifically.

Cicero 10-03-2008 12:23 PM

No really...I thought it was funny...lol!

lumberjim 10-06-2008 12:02 PM

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i dont DO politics....but this is funny:

HungLikeJesus 10-06-2008 12:10 PM

Hey, you think it's easy being the politician? You have to climb up this ladder and stand on a tiny platform while trying to open the door and avoid falling off.

Then you have to put up with all the yelling from the people below.

(Taps foot.) Have you got any paper down there?

ZenGum 10-06-2008 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 490372)

(Taps foot.) Have you got any paper down there?

No? Oh well, there's plenty of these tax-dollars lying about... :wipe:


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