Rod Blagojevich (D)
 

Blagojevich behaved just like Clinton.

One more datum for why people of integrity don't vote for Democrats, and shouldn't vote for Democrats.

Give campaign contributions to somebody else.

I vote for the equivalent of the dems over here...and I have integrity. In fact, a lot more integrity than a lot of the reps I've seen but then there are some bad dems too.

I don't know when people are going to get over the whole, good or bad depending on what side you're on thing. There are good and bad politicians on both sides of the fence, just as there are good and bad people in all aspects of life. Just because one politician does the wrong thing doesn't mean the whole party is bad. It means they may have made a bad choice in selecting that candidate, but that's happened to both sides before too.

only green snakes will bite you. never pick up a green snake.

Apparently the (D) stands for (D)umbshit?

What a doofus this guy is. Thank goodness Republicans never behave in such a dishonest, moneygrubbing, cynical manner.

One side is just as bad as the other, and the worst offenders are the ones who use blanket statements to vilify the opposition. You contribute to the problem of partisan bickering in doing that.

Res ipsa loquitur.

The attitude of Blagojevich could not have developed in a vacuum. Damn crook might as well have listed the seat on E-bay. (hey, hehe, there's an idea.. anyone?)

I think you misplaced your homekey row there, dude. feel for the little dots on the f and j before you start to type. :)

I guessed it was Latin for "what he said".

RES IPSA LOQUITUR - Lat. "the thing speaks for itself." Refers to situations when it's assumed that a person's injury was caused by the negligent action of another party because the accident was the sort that wouldn't occur unless someone was negligent.

[Sean]That's the Chicago way.[/Connery]

Wolf has it right. This is chicago (illinois really but all the big guys come out of chicago) through and through. the last governor is still in prison. The mayor's office isn't exactly know for great ethics. chicago politicians only stick out if they aren't crooks.

Rod B is not going to jail for being a Democrat. He's going to jail for being a crook.

George Ryan (the prior governor) is in the pokey right now and is/was a Republican. Crooks must be non-denominational.

Yes!!!! I knew that if I came to the cellar today and there was a thread on Blowfish, I would have to comment.

He is the worst governor ever. Voters in Chicago suck because what they do impacts the rest of the state - Do Chicagoans and the people that occupy the 'burbs (tiny hellholes, IMO) even KNOW that there is more to Illinois than just them? NO! That's why every single person that is elected, appointed, whatever to an important public office in this state is CORRUPT - the most corrupt part of the state carries the most vote.

We're not perfect down here in Central Illinois - or "the South" as the Chicago morons refer to our part of the state, but at least we are honest and not corrupt.

Let's see - who in Chicago/Illinois politics has gone to jail - Gov. Ryan, Dan Rostenkowski, three other governors who's pictures were in the paper and I can't remember their names... this state totally sucks!

This would never happen if the Chicago area citizens would get their heads out of their butts and realize that THERE IS MORE TO ILLINOIS THAN THEM!!!

:mad2: :cuss: :angry: :rattat: :magnum: :rant:

My apologies to anyone that lives in Chicago and the 'burbs - I used to live in a particular one called Libertyville - hated it. I'm sure you're all nice people, I am just so steamed that people like him get elected in this state.

I'm glad he's gone :rant:.

I'm laying a little stress on the man's party because numerous major newspapers and television news operations both local and national have apparently been at pains to omit or muffle any mention he's a Democrat. This reticence likely would not be the case were he a Republican, as previous scandals show. The vast majority of journalism-school grads, their professors, and working journalists are of the Democratic persuasion, and heavily support Democratic candidates. To put it mildly, they are suspected of a systemic bias in favor of the Democratic Party. It does seem there are too few Republicans in the news media, let alone Libertarians.

So, we do what we can to correct these little imbalances and lapses. And we smile. Schadenfreude, Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium...

Well the CBS broadcast didn't. In fact they alluded to lots of communication between he and Obama even, along with his secretary of state. They clearly demonstrated the fact that he was a dem.

What news were you watching UG? :)

New York Times is reported to have mentioned it subfusc, fourth paragraph. NBC News is reported not to have mentioned it at all.

Fox News keeps tabs on this kind of action by other news outlets, and, well, mentions it when and if. They note that a similar grudging revelation would not be the case when it's a Republican. It would instead be enthusiastically ballyhooed.

But to the wise man, the media's case for Republicans being mean ole repressoids just isn't proven, which is why all the Republican = Stupid unquestioned assuming in the Cellar suggests brains are not at work.

Between the findings of the Media Research Center and of Fox News, the case for American media bias is damning. The bias should be expected, and taken into account.

Your bias should be expected, and taken into account.

. . . You're an idiot.

Thats why I love reading Flints posts! #what funniest cellarite?

I love Flint's post too...er, posts, I meant posts.

I'll agree with UG *grabs heart* on this. If he were an R, then the news stories would have read, Republican Govenor Blowfish arrested on corruption... I think they're all crooks regardless of party but on this one detail UG is correct.

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and then I read his post on the second page.

Because I haven't lived in Illinois (also known as outer Chicago) for a number of years I didn't remember whether he was R or D. The day the news story hit I was curious and I didn't find the answer until the fourth article I read on the issue. That, rather than Fox News, is where I got my impression of the situation.

Yeah. But then, I'm pretty sure Fox will be emphasising his party and were he a republican they'd be playing it down.

My point isn't a Fox = good, everyone else = bad. My observation was that i had to read four articles before finding information that should have been included in all articles regardless of source. When speaking of politians it is normal to see: (D) Senator Obama of Illinois... or (R) Senator McCain of Arizona. That's just the norm. These articles specifically ommitted any reference to party which is just stupid IMO.

Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, ATDGAFGFEALMOP, have all become pretty faces focused on pushing their agendas at the expense of unbiased reporting of facts. It's a shame really.

For a while there, when there was Republican scandal after Republican scandal, a couple of times Fox put Democrat (instead of Republican) next to their names on the bottom of the screen blurbs. I think they did it with Foley mostly.

The first article I read on the subject listed him as a D. Maybe you guys should be reading the washington post.

*laughs* I remember seeing that on the Daily Show.

Maybe. Most of the news I get during the day just pops up on the generic feeds I hit when logging out of sites, etc.

Not just stupid, more than likely intentional.

DON'T FIRE FITZ

This is a great opportunity for Obama if he is truly free of any of this, and I certainly hope he is, to be the leader and be as forthright as he claimed he would be during the election.

I believe that the original posting in this thread was intended to indicate that Democratic crooks are somehow more obvious, natural and frequent than any other kind.

Correct.

Why should I care about that?

Yes. I was referring more to the translation than anything else.

Union Is Caught Up in Illinois Bribe Case

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/us...s/12union.html

Damning information to say the least.

He already did. I'm not sure why that answer would change after Fitzgerald investigated a guy who hates him.

A bit of a shame, yeah. But I see it as more a reversion to the journalistic norms of the nineteenth century, when it was routine even for papers that weren't established as party organs from the beginning to clearly favor one party over others, or the other.

But you can do pretty well by taking opposing biases, mentally leaning them up against each other, and dropping a plumbline. It should land pretty near what is actually the case. / + \ --> /\, then /|\.

My problem with the Democrats is not that they're crooked -- no one here takes any view of politicians other than from the skeptical to the downright jaundiced. Congress' approval ratings are still in the cellar, if not the teens.

My problem is the leadership of the Democrats just isn't very wise, and has had zero success in advancing democracy around the globe since Truman. Truman left office in 1954. That's a long time of failure. At the end of the day, indefensible. Socialism is the road of currency debasement and thus unwisdom, and the Dem Party is in thrall to its socialists. Unwisdom. Bureaucracy is the Dem Party's solution to every problem, real or imagined. Unfortunately, it's not the way to get something done, or services provided. Bureaucracy is a pretty fair pre-Internet way to move information around, but its natural tendency is to inertia and it overly limits effort and problemsolving in its attempts to plan, budget, and administer. Paring bureaucratic tendencies away from a society makes that society more dynamic and endows it with a livelier economy.

By contrast, the Republicans have been the ones to win democracy's battles for us, and to fight wars as if they intended to win them -- which a good many senseless people think is just criminal somehow. Can't see the how myself -- only that some American bozos don't want us winning. They suck, and blindly too. Amazing just how angry they become when their inadequacy of thought is ranged before them beyond mistake. Anybody would think they whore after a false god.

And yes, the Reps are about as enamored of bureaucracy as the Dems are. I'd hate to have to live on any difference there. No wonder I profess Libertarianism as my political persuasion, despite objections from certain parties.

Yours as well. I could offer some suggestions about where you might take your bias and what you might do with it. :cool:

"As for me and my house," we find the Democratic Party a regular, routine disappointment.

Your lies are still lies. Go back and read post 38.:rolleyes:

You may not like it and they may not have done it in this case but Michelle is right.

You watch what you sayin', buster! We don't allow no congressmen in here!

Ah - ahhhh - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Bosnia!

I'm sorry, I have a cold.

Apparently not.

If there were any lies, I suppose that might be true. :rolleyes: Stop being an idiot, Bruce, for I know you can. All three digits of the IQ, if you please. I know you have them. Pour the Kool-Aid into the gutter; it's not good for your brain.

I never write anything in here, other than jokes, that is anything less than truth as I've been given to understand it. An inability to recognize or value this on your part, Bruce, doesn't exactly add up to a deficiency on mine, now does it? You could always become an enlightened man... then great vistas open. Stop looking for excuses to fight me unless dickhead really is your life's goal.

A truth is, Blagojevich is venal. And it looks like he's hard even for the Chicago Democratic machine to swallow, and there are calls for his impeachment, as well as for his pro tem removal from office because he's too crippled politically to govern.

And UT, is Bosnia really there yet? Up from genocide/harrumph/ethnic cleansing isn't all the way to liberal democracy, is it?

I stand corrected, you don't lie, you're just uneducated. :eyebrow:

The subject of this thread is the media's unwillingness to identify Blagojevich as a democrat. That has been debunked.

:D

My comment was about the monkey's post. The press has had a long history of not id'ing Dems caught in scandles with inital reports.

Apparently so.

Apparently ... what?

Apparently.

The local media in Central Illinois is basically refusing to recognize him as the governor. The citizens of Illinois that did not elect him to office (everyone outside of Chicago) have stopped recognizing him as governor a long time ago. Everything that he has done in the past few months - closing state historical sites and parks, closing a major state prison, etc. is going to be reversed. If he doesn't willingly resign, the Illinois Supreme Court is going to rule that he is unfit to serve as governor, thus welcoming Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn as the new governor of IL. Quinn and Blowfish have not spoken to each other in years. Most people that are elected to higher offices in IL government have very bad relationships with the ol' Blow. Some are even democrats. He's not a popular guy.

Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Emanuel: I'm Getting Death Threats Over Blagojevich Scandal


Better get real used to it. This is just the beginning.

That's good to hear. But I still think that Obama, or any president would want to be intimately involved with the appointment of his replacement. He will have to work with him for the next 4 years and certainly would want to pick/approve/suggest someone with whom is is familiar or has worked with in the past. That's only normal....isn't it?

Obama aides won't discuss Ill. governor probe

And had already been debunked by said post.