They call this a "game"?
 

Why kind of sick mind thinks of this as playing?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sciencean...by-Amazon.html


Rapelay virtual rape game banned by Amazon
A PC game that allows players to gang rape virtual women – and then force them to have an abortion – has been banned from Amazon.

By Matthew Moore
Last Updated: 1:42PM GMT 13 Feb 2009

Withdrawn from sale: Amazon.com has stopped selling RapeLay, in which players have to stalk and rape a family of women
In Rapelay, gamers direct a character to sexually assault a mother and her two young daughters at an underground station, before raping any of a selection female characters.

The game was intended for release just in Japan, but was on offer to British buyers through Amazon Marketplace, the section of the online store's website open to third-party sellers.

But Amazon has now withdrawn the game after complaints from users, deeming it to be inappropriate. "We determined that we did not want to be selling this particular item," a spokeswoman said.

Rapelay was developed by the Japanese production house Illusion, which makes a number of sexually violent games for the domestic market. Their other titles include "Battle Raper" and "Artificial Girl".

A spokesman for the company said: "We believe there is no problem with the software, which has cleared the domestic ratings of an ethics watchdog body."

Keith Vaz, the Labour MP for Leicester East who has previously spoken out against computer games that promote violence, condemned the game.

"It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offence of rape," he told the Belfast Telegraph.

Rapelay, which was released in 2006, encourages players to force the virtual woman they rape to have an abortion. If they are allowed to give birth the woman throws the player's character under a train, according to reviews of the game. It also has a feature allowing several players to team up against individual women.

I'm not going to defend a game where you rape women, but I think it's interesting that nobody seems to have a problem with all the video games where you kill people. Isn't murder worse than rape?

Wacky Asians. And by wacky I mean fucked in the head. Sick fuckers ought to have their appendages sawn off and fed to them. :headshake

Maybe there ought to be a rating beyond "MA", like "TSFAH" "Too sick for any human".

Not to me. Murder takes your life. Rape can take your soul.

I have a problem with the games that glorify killing too but that's been argued before. And while it's just hair splitting. Most of the "games" that involve killing don't usually package it as the game you have to kill people with. The objective is some other goal with killing as the means. The rape "game"s primary objective is to rape.
Rape IS the goal.

Uh, no. I don't think so.

Bullet through the head, or a gang rape and a lifetime to remember? I'd take the bullet.




[eta] I say that sitting here. In reality I have no doubt my survival instincts are as strong as any other creature's. My mind says death would be preferable. My biology says life is all there is.

I mean in the real world. You can get the death penalty for murder, but not for rape alone. The legal system seems to rank murder as worse than rape.

I agree with you that the game is really sick. This game feels worse to me than Grand Theft Auto, for example, but I wonder why that is. I don't think it's logical for me to feel that way.

glatt, I believe I can posit a logic behind your feelings on this. Rape is considered worse than murder because murder has been deemed to have practical applications (war, executions, self defense) while rape has been shown to have no practical applications which are commonly accepted by today’s standards (this disregards the historical utility of replacing an enemies genetic stock with your own). The concept of rape is repugnant because it cannot be justified as having any practical purpose. The concept of murder is acceptable, and something we can even relish in the thought of, because of its number of practical applications, and the fact that we are encouraged to consider it a viable option for the resolution of various matters.

This, in addition to the reason cited above.

You could be right. I'm really not sure.

I've had the urge to kill people before, but never the urge to rape anyone. Maybe being familiar with the one urge makes it more acceptable to see in a video game. You certainly see more killing in movies and TV shows than you do rapes, so that may make them more acceptable in a game too.

It's a completely different thing.

Do only females see this?

Uh, y'all are nuts. I'd rather be raped and live, than be killed. I don't care what sort of nightmares and post-traumatic stress disorder I would have to suffer through, I don't want to fucking die.

If you (the general you) would honestly rather just die than be raped, how does that align with your opinion of so-called "honor killings" of women who have been raped?

I'm with Shawnee on this, I don't think this game can be compared to any mindless killing game. The reason is because this game is an attack on women. In Grand Theft Auto, the killing is indiscriminate and has no meaning but this game has the point to rape women. The only games this could be compared with is one that sets out to kill homosexuals or lynch blacks.

This game reinforces the patriarchal power setup in our society and would be a very negative influence on boys because they may start to act, more than they would, with that sense of patriarchal power. That doesn't mean that boys will start to go out raping women, but they will start looking at them as they are presented in this game.

I'm not saying that Grand Theft Auto would not be harmful to a child but a child is not going to go around killing people or stealing cars, the point of the game is too exact to replicate or be influenced in any way but this game can easily influence young boys to act in a sexist nature.

Another thought as well. Even though we as a society have longer sentences for murderers then rapists, rapists are viewed as much worse than murderers. If you murder, you are viewed as cold-hearted asshole, if you rape, you are viewed as sick pathetic power hungry little fucker that deserves to be beaten to a pulp.

It aligns with my opinion that it's the rapist that should be put to death.

Kill them both after a SPEEDY trial and get them off the planet - we don't need to waste the air they breathe.

Them and child molesters. Send em on the expressway to the other side. Good riddance.

This might be off topic, but we can't forget that rape is at times bundled with a murder.......The argument over which is worse seems a little trite.

We all know that in Asia, that rape is seen as more socially acceptable. There are tons of guys over there that are into it and even help their friends carry it out. These guys were just exposing one of their collective norms that we find abhorrent. Just the term "rapeplay" sets me off, so I'll just pipe down. Just one last thing: Those fucking juveniles over there, and all their peers, can suck a b.o.d's. Without their consent.

but killing them would also help to reduce the population - just sayin.

Maybe we could make a video game about killing rapists and child molesters. Then we could sell it on Amazon and put the proceeds toward prevention or whatever. That way if kids emulated the game IRL they would...

:) Excellent Classic! Excellent!!

I think you are painting Asia with an awfully broad brush there. Not a terribly accurate one either.

According to this website, Japan (which produced this video game) is #54 in the world for its rate of rape, with 0.017737 per 1,000 people. The United States is #9 with 0.301318 per 1,000 people. That's 17 times more rape case per capita in the USA.

OK, so we do it more...and they just think it's more cool.:neutral:

You are right. I was supposing it was more prevalent when their Prime Minister gave it a public nod. Excuse me.

Rape stats. are only good if they are reported. If it is as common as eating breakfast with a large spoon, what is to report?

Let's not forget the forcible trafficking of young girls. Some people call it prostitution. I call that rape as well.

Aha...good point!

This whole thing really digs deep. I can't understand a culture that still treats women like they do. I'm sorry...you will never ever ever ever see me anywhere near anywhere there. Buncha sickos. Yeah I'm stereotyping, but I don't care.

I'm not a expert on Japanese culture, so I had to rely on the statistics I found doing a Google search. I guess I'll have to take you word for it that Asians think rape is normal.

WTF? You are kidding right? I don't think there is a culture in the world that accepts that.

Japan Pledges To Halt Production Of Weirdo Porn That Makes People Puke

Perfect! :lol:

Well that's what Cicero is saying. The statistics I found that counter it don't mean anything. Not just the site I linked but this one too.

I see from the stats that the rate per 100k is less. How did one make the leap that it was more accepted or tolerated in Japan? I must be missing the smoking gun where someone documented that behavior as acceptable. As I recall they had a pretty big fit when some Marines were accused of rape a few years back. I must be missing something.

Yah no one gives it a public go ahead. But some people have had a terrible time getting it prosecuted. They build laws around it, but when it comes to the actual enforcement....That's when it's tough.

Go to the NOW website and find out how many countries still accept rape as a social norm. Seems to be the same countries that are still trying to abolish FGM. Do some homework on it, and get back to me.

For example: In Africa it was ok to abduct and rape a girl to ask for her hand in marriage. Her parents then had to give consent. So people went down there over a specific case, to get it prosecuted....

I don't expect you guys to hang out on the NOW website or really care about the issues. Just do some homework.

Hell go to the Phillippines and ask how many have been raped. They will have no idea wtf you are talking about. For some of them:It's their job.

I don't care for your statistics in a world full of vast cultural differences.

Cicero, I hope you don't think for one minute that I am supporting the notion that rape is ok for anyone anywhere any culture. Because I am not.

I can't tell you about rape, but I have a (surprisingly) large number of friends who have spent many years in Japan teaching English. They definitely have a different set of cultural morals when it comes to all sex.

Not two weeks ago, in fact, one friend posted about an incident at his current junior high school: a boy ejaculated all over the books and school supplies of a girl in his class. It was not his student, so he doesn't know whether the intent was overtly malicious, or some twisted modern day version of flirting-by-pulling-her-hair-on-the-playground... but what he does know is there were zero repercussions. The administration treated it as a "boys will be boys" type of thing. They didn't even bother notifying either set of parents.

:eyebrow:

Have you seen those videos where dudes sneak up on a girl sitting on a park bench or whatever and bukkake on her and then run away? lol

I always thought those were staged, but now I wonder...

What, she just lays there and takes it, for the video I mean? Come on.

It's a sneak-attack. She usually yells at him as he runs away, or is too shocked to realize what happened before he is long gone. Sorry, not technically "bukkake" because it's only one dude, it just sounded funnier that way. . . . . . . . I have some links...

No I didn't think that. I just think the stats I am given are innately flawed.

It's just not a reliable set. Rape is reported more often in this country because it is punishable by law. Big time. Our numbers are high here because we actually enforce that law. So people do report it and statistics can be proven. It isn't reported every time, but our numbers here are more close to the actuality.

It also depends on your definition of rape. Some people see child prostitution as prostitution, but I also define it as a rape because there is no way for it to be consentual.

There are bars that own kids in Asia. They don't see it as rape. They see it as a business transaction. And there are other reasons why it goes unreported in other countries.....In Africa and other places you are shamed by your community for no longer being a virgin........

They are trying to get guys to quit abducting and raping to get marital consent still. South Africa.

But this is a flame topic so I really should go. I will not supply any links here. I want you to do your own research. If you are interested.

Japan culture minister link

"live-eel anal insertions"

"group sex involving seven or more individuals feature at least four human participants"

"prurient uses of colostomy bags"

I just knew that I should go see "Paul Blartt: Mall Cop".