Sept 18, 2010: Hosni Jumps Ahead
 

This is a picture of the major players at the Mid-East Peace talks, taken at the White House.
Egypt’s president, Hosni Mubarak, is on your left.

http://cellar.org/2010/Hosni1.jpg

But when the picture was published in Al Ahram, owned by the Egyptian government, Hosni Mubarak has jumped ahead.

http://cellar.org/2010/hosni2.jpg

The jig is up...
But, but, but...
No harm, no foul, just a silly embarrassment, methinks. :)

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I Call HAGGIS !!!

Its Shoped , Thus its SHIT !!!!

Not necessarily shopped.
Except for Netanyahu, the arm positions of each man has changed.
They could have simply changed positions between two pics.

Did you read the fucking link?
Did you read the op?

No, I didn't know I was supposed to. :smack:
Again, I'll try to do better next time. :sniff:

My sentiments EXACTLY on Haggis! :eek::mad:HAGGIS :mad::eek:

Politicians are always great posers - but poor comics. Their jokes are always "on us". :(

Bruce, temper! Tsk, tsk.
I think it is obvious that a photograph was modified (is Photoshop the only way?) to place Mubarak in a more attactive light.
It just wasn't the top photo that was changed, but another one a step away.

this is a horrible parody of a "free" press.

the arm positions aren't the same, because everyone has been reversed. look at the angle of the ties.

You need to hone your "looking" skills. There is one due with a "reversed" looking tie. Look at his legs.

that's what it looks like to me; several of the guys are definitely reversed

Are we looking at the same thing ???

perhaps not; unimportant, really anyhow

I demand several more posts on this specific subject! You go next.

several more posts on this specific subject!:p:

Tsk tsk my ass, "shopped" means altered photograph, by any method.
In both the original post, and the link, Al Ahram clearly, succinctly, irrevocably, stated the photograph had been altered by them.
Al Ahram is owned by the Egyptian government.

sigh :neutral:

yes, I realize it's a state-owned and controlled publication. And to Flint:

LOOK!

(Flint looks around. Cloud gooses Flint and dances away!)

I let you do that on purpose.

<fun!>

and you're right, btw

I think this should never have come up. I think our Prez was being a callous a-hole, a clueless noob, or an egotistical dork, in the first picture.

The entire negotiations are about people working together to solve very tough issues. Him parading along like the "leader" with a bunch of servants following along was a very poor way to reinforce the entire "working together" aspect. It was bound to cause exactly these types of petty distractions. :(

You don't herd cats, you have to lead them.

Spuck, it's actually orchestrated to be that way! They figure out who will walk where so there won't be any confusion if Mubarak walks first.

Yes.

This is far from being a new phenomenon. Been going on for decades.

Oh, its ok then. To me its another subtle way the media shapes the information we get.

I'm sure that the state department sets it up that way, not Obama or the media. As the leader of the host country, Obama should lead the way. But really, it's Bush's fault.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hite_House.jpg
http://cdn.wn.com/pd/1d/6a/8fd9a4896...1e4_grande.jpg
http://www.nato.int/pictures/2004/040329/b040329j.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200801/r215529_837253.jpg

The subconscious perception is that the person in front is more important than everyone else...after all, *they* aren't first. That's going to be pretty unacceptable in many countries.

Actually, who cares? They all look like a bag of crooks anyway. Damn politicians.

lol...that was funny

Doesn't host country always go first?

I can't see everyone walking abreast. It would look like a chorus line.

Is this even worth discussing? really?

ask

Ah good. We got the "Blame Bush" argument in there. I was afraid that would get missed. :rolleyes:

Do you really think the Republican and Democrat party is different? How has Obama given us "Hope and Change"? By spending us out of debt? Has he done anything better than Bush?

Gah, vote 'em all out. We need a clean sweep in all of Washington. Just make sure you are voting for someone who has a record of fixing things. People voted for Obama because he preached change without looking at his history and we ended up with another political puppet that made things worse.

Damn, relax a little.

He just put Bush in there as counter example to show that all presidents do it.

sheesh



(Course the way Spud backpedaled was priceless.)

Yeh kinda like how every democrat is backpedaling on the healthcare reform they voted for :thumbsup:

They are all crooks unlike some who still hope their party isn't and that maybe things will change.

This isnt the word association thread.

You're right - those words really don't associate with reality.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Have a blessed day.

:facepalm:

I agree

"When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way,
From your first cigarette, to your last dying day."

P.S. I wasn't back pedalling. I still say Yes. A very partisan statement for all you Obama sycophants out there.

Ok. You made me look up 'sycophant'.

And now I'll add that this is exactly the sort of inflammatory language that turns me off of the current crop of Republicans and Republican supporters. It used to be that Republicans were pro-small-government. I could buy into that. Now they're just anti-just-about-everything-except-big-business. And they're really into hate and anger. That's not for me.

Sycophant isn't inflamatory if you ain't one. Having said that, anyone who defends a conservative or a republican is bound to be called hateful, intolerant. bigoted, homophobic, or in bed with big business. Here in the cellar I've been called worse. That's what happens when you don't follow the tolerant politically correct crowd. Try saying something good about Sarah Palin running for President, and watch the hate and scorn pour down on you.

With all due respect, isn't that what conservatives are. You, yourself, say
Aren't conservatives apposed to DADT and same gender marriage? Don't you support a person's right to refuse to treat minorities the same as s/he treats whites? Don't you endorse subjugating workers and trashing the environment in the name of expanded profits?

Not all conservatives - not at all.

You consistently confuse "republican" with "conservative"
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

What's the point of calling yourself a conservative if you don't adhere to conservative values?

If it doesn't walk like a duck and doesn't quack like a duck, then it's not a duck.

I'm going to start calling myself conservative. I'm against the death penalty, I'm for rights for women, rights for minorities, I think our health care system needs reformed. I'm pro-choice. I'm agnostic. I'm a hippy.

BUT I'm a conservative, dammit.

Maybe you need another word, or fall off the fence.

:lol2:

Please define some of them for me.

*shrugs*

You're Mr Conservative, you tell me.

Or are you a moderate today? I can't remember the schedule.

Regardless, I hear a lot from republicans about conservative values and my very favorite "it doesn't even freaking mean anything" word regurgitation about things being 'unamerican.' There was a lot of 'unamerican' being thrown around about the mosque debate.

WTF is 'unamerican'? I need a definition for that one! Disamerican? Nonamerican? Inamerican?

I need the official unabridged Rush dictionary. The entry for 'unamerican' probably follows 'ampersand.'

:lol:

I've always wondered, what are conservatives conserving?

Good discourse.

Brain power.

[groucho]you should see my intercourse[/groucho] :lol2:

Who me? No, it was him? I never said that. Who said that.

Thanks, though. When you add in the rest of the post the discourse says "you tell me: it's your party who bitches about people not adhering to conservative american values." You. Tell. Me. You say you're a conservative (like I said, I'm confused as to what you're leaning to on any particular day) yet you tell spexx that all conservatives are not all conservative. What in the heck do you mean?

You're either conservative or not. Maybe you're a liberalomodoconservatavo, but if you are just say so. Don't hide behind your conservative curtain then say you're not conservative.

I listed those things that make me a conservative (oh, in case you didn't get the joke, I really listed the things I think make me a liberal.) So let's hear what YOU believe in that you think makes you conservative. There are no wrong or right answers. What do YOU think makes YOU conservative?

The fence, doesn't it chafe?

I think the problem is that most of us don't really fit in one category.

I don't think there is a fence.

I don't belong to either party, I'm an independent.
Hence all your immature arrogant comments, as usual, don't apply.

You made the accusation, now back it up.

Oh I disagree - I'm on the fence on many issues, if not most.

There are too many sheep who attach a label to themselves and say this is what I believe because I am a (insert choice here)
They confuse terminology like conservative and republican or liberal and democrat. All they can do is regurgitate that which they are told.
Sad really, because many of them, from both parties, are actually rather intelligent people with an apparent blind spot.

So I'm asking you, the expert, what about you makes you conservative? You can't answer the question. You're looking for the right thing to say, but you don't know. My comment came from your party, the king of regurgitation: conservative american values. I don't know what they are, but I bet I don't have them. So what are they? You purport to know of them. You use conservatism when it's convenient, when it backs up whatever you have a problem with at the time, then you turn your back on it when you're faced with defining the truth about conservatism, and the truth about who you are. Be honest. Be who you are. Give me an honest statement about what makes you conservative, or whatever you're backing today. Believe me, I'm not the biggest sheep around here, not by a long shot.

YOU HAVE A UNIQUE CHANCE TO, ONCE AND FOR ALL, TELL US WHAT IT IS YOU REALLY STAND FOR. If I'm wrong, you're not conservative, tell me now and let's end it, once and for all.

btw "sheep" and "immature, arrogant comments" sounds like insult to me.

You're not insulting me, are you? I'll cry and get you banned.

Gee was it really so hard to admit that?

I'm not an expert, never claimed to be.
Just returning the favor.
Go for it.

Typical.

Business as usual for the c-man.