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Lamplighter 10-04-2010 03:47 PM

Copy machine security risk
 
Maybe this has been on TheCellar before, but if not I feel everyone should know about it.

CBS report here...

Since 2002 copy machines have had hard drives, and store images on this hard drive of every copy, fax, and email scan.
Often these images are not erased before the used machine is sold / given away.

Cloud 10-04-2010 04:35 PM

I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2010 05:17 PM

Fuck ya, that's what you get for abusing your employer's trust, using company equipment for personal stuff. :lol:

Happy Monkey 10-04-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 686435)
I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.

It does store page images. It probably stores them indefinitely, as in it is not definite how long they are stored. Probably FIFO (first in, first out) - the oldest images are deleted when space is needed.

Cloud 10-04-2010 05:28 PM

I agree. It does scan the pages in order to make the copies, but it doesn't keep them forever. I'm not too worried--someone one have to go through hundreds and hundreds of pages in order to find one kind of usable nugget.

easier to go through our trash :)

Happy Monkey 10-04-2010 05:41 PM

Thousands of pages, I expect. Disk space is cheap.

Cloud 10-04-2010 05:48 PM

hundred and hundreds of thousands of pages. I meant. (aka a whole lot) sorry

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2010 05:49 PM

Didn't the guy say 20 thousand?

Cloud 10-04-2010 05:57 PM

20,000? we can go through that in a week. Well, okay -- a month. Lawyers kill trees.

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2010 06:02 PM

That doesn't matter, the hard drive is still holding the last 20K when it goes out the door, and that's 20K too many. I'm sure the lawyers wouldn't be happy if you left copies of the last 20K documents you handled on the doorstep.

Cloud 10-04-2010 06:06 PM

don't care. really, really don't.

footfootfoot 10-04-2010 06:08 PM

A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

xoxoxoBruce 10-04-2010 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 686455)
don't care. really, really don't.

You don't care about your client's personal information. Isn't that violation of your lawyer boss's hypocrite oath? :eek:



3foot, go to your room. :lol:

glatt 10-05-2010 07:22 AM

Our copiers have hard drives, and we can access them from our desktops on the network. After I make a personal scan of something, I go back to my desk and pull it up, then I delete it from the copier's hard drive. If it's work related, I just leave it there. Once, I snooped around in that drive a little, but quickly got bored. Nothing juicy in there. I have to assume our IT people know to erase that hard drive before it goes out. They knew to link to it in the first place.

Pete Zicato 10-05-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686456)
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Cracked me up, foot.

But... left a boob in the machine?

wolf 10-05-2010 09:21 AM

Interesting, given that nearly everything (except for the occasional recipe) I'm copying is a medical record.

The nuthouse's IT guy (who is a legacy hire, has a degree in photojournalism or something, and until the nuthouse gave him a laptop didn't even own a home computer) is probably completely clueless about this.

spudcon 10-05-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686456)
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Did she leave her right one in there too?

footfootfoot 10-05-2010 09:25 PM

@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.

tw 10-05-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686456)
A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudcon (Post 686627)
Did she leave her right one in there too?

Apparently it is a good idea to have a spare set safely stashed somewhere.

Pete Zicato 10-05-2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686768)
@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.

No. No. Don't give up 'cause I didn't get it. I'm known far and wide as Mr. Oblivious.

glatt 10-06-2010 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686768)
I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.

I thought it was very funny. Sorry for not throwing a couple of LOLs your way.

footfootfoot 10-06-2010 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 686808)
I thought it was very funny. Sorry for not throwing a couple of LOLs your way.

Nah, there's no need for that, it's the explanations that bum my stone

Shawnee123 10-06-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686768)
@ Pete, See, it was originally a blond joke, right? and the implication is that she was SO blond that she forgot the original, and just lay there on the glass until someone came in and saw that she was still there...

I swear to FSM I am going to stop with the jokes around here.

No! Don't stop with the jokes. You're really funny most of the time.

This, however, was not one of those times.

Ba DUM dum!

:D

xoxoxoBruce 10-06-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 686830)
Nah, there's no need for that, it's the explanations that bum my stone

Don't explain, they get it or the don't.

Cloud 10-06-2010 05:04 PM

well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!

Pete Zicato 10-06-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 686941)
well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!

Reminded me of a couple of lines from an old western. Cowboy says, "They don't call me speedy for nothin'". Dance hall girl looks at him meaningfully and says, "I hope they don't call you speedy for everything."

Anybody remember what movie that's from?

Shawnee123 10-07-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 686989)
Reminded me of a couple of lines from an old western. Cowboy says, "They don't call me speedy for nothin'". Dance hall girl looks at him meaningfully and says, "I hope they don't call you speedy for everything."

Anybody remember what movie that's from?

I should ask my friends, a married couple. If the TV is on and there is no football...it's Westerns...all the time! I have seriously never seen them watch anything else.

Can you give a hint? I love trivia games.

footfootfoot 10-07-2010 08:29 AM

it's gotta be a Mae West line, so I'll guess it's a WC Fields movie. My Little Chickadee?

Spexxvet 10-07-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 686941)
well I made 5,000 copies today. and the day's not over yet. they don't call me the Copy Queen for nothin!

I didn't know there was a copy festival.

tw 10-07-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 686989)
Anybody remember what movie that's from?

If it wasn't in, it should have been in Blazing Saddles.

Shawnee123 10-08-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 687037)
it's gotta be a Mae West line, so I'll guess it's a WC Fields movie. My Little Chickadee?

Hmmm, that makes sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 687163)
If it wasn't in, it should have been in Blazing Saddles.

Yabbut, he said old western. Saddles is more like an early contemporary comedy. ;)

Pete Zicato 10-08-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 687030)
Can you give a hint? I love trivia games.

Sorry to lead you on. The reason I ask is that I don't know. I just saw part of the movie and never got the name.

Shawnee123 10-08-2010 02:19 PM

You tease, you.

I'll ask my buddies tonight if they have any idea!

:)

Shawnee123 10-08-2010 02:23 PM

Never mind, found it:

Mother, Jugs & Speed, 1976

http://www.moviequotes.com/fullquote.cgi?qnum=88059

Pete Zicato 10-08-2010 04:13 PM

Yeah. The memory is starting to go. It's not even a western.


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