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J.D.DIAMOND 01-03-2011 05:15 PM

Traditional Metal Music(no hair bands)
 
Any fans of Traditional Heavy Metal music out here? Or traditional death,thrash or black metal?

For heavy metal many people include "hair glam rock" bands such as Motley Crue,Poison,Ratt,Bon jovi,Wasp,Dokken,ect...

But bans like these are not "heavy metal" they are either rock like Def Leppard and the Scorpions or rock/glam like Wasp and Motley Crue or glam rock which is fine if you like that kind of music but its not what I was getting at here just to clear this up.

I was wondering if there are any "true" heavy metal fans that are into Black Sabbath,Judas Priest,Saxon,Iron Maiden,Ozzy,Dio,Exciter,Running Wild,King Diamond,Agent Steel,Iced Earth

Or traditional death metal like (old)Slayer,Onslaught,Protector,Hobb's Angel Of Death(old)Morbid Angel,(old)Deicide

Black metal bands like Venom,Mercyful Fate,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost,Bathory,Possessed,Sarcafago,Mortuary Drape ect...

J.D.DIAMOND 01-08-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 703105)
Any fans of Traditional Heavy Metal music out here? Or traditional death,thrash or black metal?

For heavy metal many people include "hair glam rock" bands such as Motley Crue,Poison,Ratt,Bon jovi,Wasp,Dokken,ect...

But bans like these are not "heavy metal" they are either rock like Def Leppard and the Scorpions or rock/glam like Wasp and Motley Crue or glam rock which is fine if you like that kind of music but its not what I was getting at here just to clear this up.

I was wondering if there are any "true" heavy metal fans that are into Black Sabbath,Judas Priest,Saxon,Iron Maiden,Ozzy,Dio,Exciter,Running Wild,King Diamond,Agent Steel,Iced Earth

Or traditional death metal like (old)Slayer,Onslaught,Protector,Hobb's Angel Of Death(old)Morbid Angel,(old)Deicide

Black metal bands like Venom,Mercyful Fate,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost,Bathory,Possessed,Sarcafago,Mortuary Drape ect...

I guess not.(LOL!) Oh well,at least somebody here listens to something cool.

Shawnee123 01-10-2011 02:30 PM

If by "fan" you mean it "makes you want to claw your eyes out and slit your wrists while vomiting" then yes, yes I am a fan.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-10-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 704647)
If by "fan" you mean it "makes you want to claw your eyes out and slit your wrists while vomiting" then yes, yes I am a fan.

:unsure: ? OOoooooooooK whatever floats yer boat.

Shawnee123 01-10-2011 03:13 PM

I saw Def Leppard and Ozzy, when I was in HS.

Luckily, I've grown up. Though, Def and Ozzy are fine, as is some other "metal". But a lot of it just needs shot. All the same raucous crap, like most country and rap.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-10-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 704659)
I saw Def Leppard and Ozzy, when I was in HS.

Luckily, I've grown up. Though, Def and Ozzy are fine, as is some other "metal". But a lot of it just needs shot. All the same raucous crap, like most country and rap.

Oh ....you've "grown up" ....how sophisticated of you! (Laughing my ass off!!! HAHA!) "Def" isn't anywhere near "metal" as they were a rock band before they went "country" so I can't fathom how you include Def in the picture?

90% of the extreme metal is "shit" and thats why I'm talking about "traditional" metal. If 80's Venom,Mercyful Fate,Celtic Frost,Hellhammer,Possessed is not your cup of tea so be it,but its not the "same ole' raucous crap" as its original and its traditional. Nice to see that you've "grown up" HA!:facepalm:

Shawnee123 01-10-2011 05:09 PM

*shrug*

Hardly worth an argument. You can continue to bang your head, and I'll continue to think it's mostly crap. ;)

be-bop 01-10-2011 07:36 PM

I love this lot High on Fire..... enjoy

plthijinx 01-10-2011 09:37 PM

alright then. try this. the drummer here is a great friend and co-worker. the bassist here is no longer with the band. my other coworker is now the bassist.


J.D.DIAMOND 01-11-2011 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 704713)
alright then. try this. the drummer here is a great friend and co-worker. the bassist here is no longer with the band. my other coworker is now the bassist.


plthijinx that is pretty cool. How do you post youtube videos in here? Other sites have you copy the embeded code and simply paste it at "source" but this site is obviously different....?

kerosene 01-11-2011 09:50 AM

That is really good, plt. The singer's voice reminds me of someone....maybe that guy who sang in Dream Theater? But the style of the music sounds different.

plthijinx 01-11-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kerosene (Post 704845)
That is really good, plt. The singer's voice reminds me of someone....maybe that guy who sang in Dream Theater? But the style of the music sounds different.

exactly. when i'm pimping their band to people i ask them if they like dream theater and if so they'll love SMC.

JD its easy. like S123 said in the youtube thread just click on share in youtube and grab everything after the "=" then click the youtube button at the upper right here and paste.

plthijinx 01-11-2011 03:53 PM

more SMC. this was a promo for their first album. they should be releasing the new one sometime this spring.....


J.D.DIAMOND 01-11-2011 05:03 PM



Oh,ok thanks plthijinx,I was wondering how to do this. Here is Motorcycle Man from Saxon live 2001 a track from 1980's Wheels Of Steel,this track is british Heavy metal,Saxon plays a mixture of traditional british rock and british styled heavy metal said by the frontman Biff Byford.

This is "raucous crap" making you want to claw your eyes out while vomiting according to Shawnee123 but to me this is far from noise,this shit is underrated heavy metal at its best.

plthijinx 01-11-2011 05:08 PM

there ya go J.D.!! :thumb:

be-bop 01-11-2011 05:34 PM

East German Metal
haven't a farking clue what they're on about just love the track

J.D.DIAMOND 01-12-2011 03:22 AM



Very interesting Be-bop. Here is Running Wild from Germany with Black Hand Inn(1994) Total traditional british styled heavy metal in the vien of Judas Priest,Saxon and old Iron Maiden with Di Anno on vocals is the best way to discribe this. Been a fav of mine for some time now.

plthijinx 01-12-2011 09:48 AM

one of the new ones by SMC


J.D.DIAMOND 01-12-2011 05:07 PM



Very cool plthijinx. Iced Earth's 2nd album and title track 'Night Of The Stormrider". I only like Iced Earth's first 2 albums and this one is a classic.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-14-2011 03:05 PM



Judas Priest - Demonizer from 2005's Angel Of Retribution....the last "real metal"album from this once great band.

plthijinx 01-15-2011 04:36 AM

Dimmu Borgir

The Sacrilegious Scorn

if you don't like heavy heavy metal...don't click.



J.D.DIAMOND 01-15-2011 09:09 PM



Cool Plthijinx,

Immortal - One By One from the Sons Of Northern Darkness album,I bought this one when this came out in 2002. Totally excellent.

drfroth 01-27-2011 09:46 PM

@plthijinx

Thanks for posting that up here...that was mighty moist of ya. Glad you will be making a few more shows soon.

Datalyss 01-28-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 703105)
Or traditional death metal like (old)Slayer,Onslaught,Protector,Hobb's Angel Of Death(old)Morbid Angel,(old)Deicide

Actually, Slayer is one of the four main thrash metal bands, along with Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax. Onslaught is also a thrash metal band. Protector and Hobb's Angel Of Death I've never heard of. You're right that both Morbid Angel and Deicide are Death Metal, but my primary preference for American Death Metal is Nile. For Swedish Death Metal...Arch Enemy FTMFW! And let's not forget about the brilliantly brutal creation of Brendon Small...DETHKLOK!

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 703105)
Black metal bands like Venom,Mercyful Fate,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost,Bathory,Possessed,Sarcafago,Mortuary Drape ect...

I prefer Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Satyricon, and Gorgoroth myself.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-30-2011 02:44 AM

[quote=Datalyss;708760]Actually, Slayer is one of the four main thrash metal bands, along with Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax. Onslaught is also a thrash metal band. Protector and Hobb's Angel Of Death I've never heard of. You're right that both Morbid Angel and Deicide are Death Metal, but my primary preference for American Death Metal is Nile. For Swedish Death Metal...Arch Enemy FTMFW! And let's not forget about the brilliantly brutal creation of Brendon Small...DETHKLOK


Yeah your correct about Slayer being a thrash band nowdays. Back in 1983 they were considered "black metal" with the first LP 'Show No Mercy" with the overtly satanic lyrics and the proto corpse painted eyes with tons of spikes and chains ect...by 1984 and 85' with Hell Awaits they were then considered death metal by the underground metal media but your right,eventually by 86' they were definately thrash.I know these labels are irritating but thats how it was back then.

Onslaught however,thier first LP 1985's "Power From Hell" was absolutely considered a "death metal" album as on the back of the LP it says "1985 DEATH METAL AT IT'S HEAVIEST" and it still sounds death metal all the way with Paul Mayhoney on vocals and with the basement chalk sound and satanic lyrics with the band supporting spikes and chains and remember the band mentioning death metal in zine articles....this was real death metal in the mid 1980's and was the original type of sound/style started by Hellhammer who were obviously influenced by the mighty Venom,but the band still played gigs with other thrash bands by all means.

By the second album they changed vocalists and went "thrash",the vocalist from the 2nd Onslaught LP is actually the lame singer that would eventually sing in "Grim Reaper" HAHA!

Hobb's Angel Of Death and Protector are excellent hidden true death metal from the 80's. I don't care for the newer age of death metal that much,but I respect your views on it. Nile do have some interesting themes though.

As for black metal,I've folowed it also from the 80's,I bought Venom's At War With Satan LP when it came out in 1984 when I was 14,even Mercyful Fate were considered black metal at that time which alot of people have a hard time understanding even though Euronymous himself used to explain why they were,Celtic Frost's first 2 albums,Bathory's first 4 albums,Sarcafago,Possessed.

Early Mayhem with Dead and Euronymous,Mortuary Drape,Von,early Darkthrone,Immortal,Emperor,early Gorgoroth,Carpathian Forest,Satyricon's first LP Dark Medieval Times,Mutiilation,early Marduk,Graveland,Abigor,Sommoning "lugburz" album,Infernum,Enthroned's first 3 albums all from the early 90's totally kick balls too.The only other black metal bands I care for are 2 of Judas Iscariot's albums "Heaven In Flames" and "To Embrace The Corpses Bleeding" I've always thought are amazing, Weltmacht and Cult Of Daath.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-30-2011 03:46 AM



Onslaught - Power From Hell 1985,this was the blue prints of death metal for what would eventually become Nile's sound of today ect... At this time there was nothing that was heavier except for Hellhammer from 1983.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-30-2011 04:08 AM



Onslaught - Lord Of Evil -1985

Datalyss 01-30-2011 06:39 PM

Well J.D. I don't really look that closely at the different genres (if I want to know what genre a band is, I Wiki it). I just listen to what sounds good to me, whether it's the easiest listening classical opus, true black metal from Norway, or the most brutal death metal.

BTW, here's an interesting tidbit: Tom Araya, Slayer frontman, is Catholic.

J.D.DIAMOND 01-30-2011 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 708960)
Well J.D. I don't really look that closely at the different genres (if I want to know what genre a band is, I Wiki it). I just listen to what sounds good to me, whether it's the easiest listening classical opus, true black metal from Norway, or the most brutal death metal.

BTW, here's an interesting tidbit: Tom Araya, Slayer frontman, is Catholic.

I agree with you on the genres,I was just saying how it was back in 1984 ect... And if thats what makes Tom happy then thats good for him. I was never able to get into any Slayer album after 1986 Reign In Blood album.

Datalyss 01-31-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 708974)
I agree with you on the genres,I was just saying how it was back in 1984 ect... And if thats what makes Tom happy then thats good for him. I was never able to get into any Slayer album after 1986 Reign In Blood album.

Speaking of which, I thought you might find this interesting:

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Originally Posted by a Wikipedia contributor
Reign in Blood is regarded by critics as one of the most influential and extreme thrash metal albums. In its "Greatest Metal Bands Of All Time" poll, MTV praised Slayer's "downtuned rhythms, infectious guitar licks, graphically violent lyrics and grisly artwork," which they stated "set the standard for dozens of emerging thrash bands," while "Slayer's music was directly responsible for the rise of death metal." MTV described Reign in Blood as essential listening, and the album was ranked number 7 on IGN's "Top 25 Most Influential Metal Albums."

What other music do you like besides metal?

J.D.DIAMOND 02-01-2011 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 709062)
Speaking of which, I thought you might find this interesting:



What other music do you like besides metal?

Not much. I only like a handfull of bands that are not metal but they are rock: Old 70's Rainbow with Dio,old Kiss (although I don't listen to them anymore)Motorhead,Pentagram,Tank's first album. Thats pretty much about it. I like some old Tom Petty. I'm extremely narrow-minded with music,its all metal pretty much for me but thats what I like,it doesn't bother me that I don't like other genres of music but to each his own eh?

Datalyss 02-01-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 709114)
to each his own eh?

True, but you're missin' some great stuff.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-01-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 709196)
True, but you're missin' some great stuff.

Well,thats open for opinion. "Great stuff" to you may be not so great to me,same with some of my stuff isn't so great to you. There may be some metal that you don't like that I would think your missing out on,but we can only like what we like,just like food.

plthijinx 02-01-2011 10:12 PM


Datalyss 02-02-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 709207)
Well,thats open for opinion. "Great stuff" to you may be not so great to me,same with some of my stuff isn't so great to you. There may be some metal that you don't like that I would think your missing out on,but we can only like what we like,just like food.

Metal I don't like? http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/...ture-micro.jpg

I just mean if you listen to other types of music, you might find you like it.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-02-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 709353)
Metal I don't like? http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/...ture-micro.jpg

I just mean if you listen to other types of music, you might find you like it.

Well I'm now 40 years old and belive me,I've heard basically everything and nothing grabs me.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-02-2011 03:47 PM



Here is something I've always liked that isn't "metal"
Lord Wind,frontman from Graveland.

Datalyss 02-03-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by J.D.DIAMOND (Post 709365)
Here is something I've always liked that isn't "metal"
Lord Wind,frontman from Graveland.

Yeah, clearly not metal...sounds like it'd be pretty good for a movie soundtrack.

Now, try this on for size. This one is also a far cry from metal, but I like it.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-05-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 709619)
Yeah, clearly not metal...sounds like it'd be pretty good for a movie soundtrack.

Now, try this on for size. This one is also a far cry from metal, but I like it.

Well thats a bit too far out of the ballpark for me,but I respect the fact that you enjoy it.Same with Plthijinx's System Of A Down but I respect that he likes it.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-05-2011 02:30 PM

Pentagram - Live Free And Burn


plthijinx 02-08-2011 09:17 PM

pretty cool vid of 5 finger death punch in iraq


J.D.DIAMOND 02-12-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 710545)
pretty cool vid of 5 finger death punch in iraq


Well bands like Five Finger Death Punch are anything but traditional as this thread was created to "aviod" these kinds of bands but to each his own.

plthijinx 02-14-2011 04:58 PM

oops! :D alright then how about this?
of course i had to work and missed the show.....
i will be taking the day off if need be for chucks b-day bash btw froth so work that into the schedule if i'm still there.....


plthijinx 02-14-2011 06:49 PM

i just found out what the previous song was about from darren, the drummer. chuck, the lead singer, when he was young got cancer and lost his right eye. doc's didn't know if he would live. chuck said when this was happening in his youth that he prayed to Jesus and that everything would be ok. his son had the same thing happen. gives more meaning to the song. love the lyrics.

J.D.DIAMOND 02-15-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 711384)
oops! :D alright then how about this?
of course i had to work and missed the show.....
i will be taking the day off if need be for chucks b-day bash btw froth so work that into the schedule if i'm still there.....


Hey plthijinx,I wasn't complaining about it,its just that I was trying to create a thread to escape the alternative sounding bands ect...no worries

plthijinx 02-15-2011 05:23 PM

oh no worries here either. misthought that this was a rock/metal only thread....no more mainstream from me :D rock on!

J.D.DIAMOND 03-10-2011 03:59 PM



DEICIDE Lunitic Of God's Creation!

plthijinx 05-22-2011 08:17 PM

this is a pretty cool local metal band. well....head band. me like it.


be-bop 05-23-2011 06:22 PM

No Thread about metal can be without Venom


Flint 08-02-2011 11:08 PM

J.D.DIAMOND,

Here's some of bands I'm collecting currently: Annotations of an Autopsy, Arch Enemy, Cannibal Corpse, Cradle of Filth, Deicide, Dimmu Borgir, Hypocrisy, Lamb of God, Morbid Angel, Poison the Well.

Heavy enough for ya? These bands are suggested listening for a metal band my wife has recently joined.

As for myself, I'm getting into a little Dragonforce, Dream Theater, Symphony X. Do you consider this stuff to be metal?

Oh, I almost forgot, I've ordered some Yngwie Malmsteen and some classic Dio as well.

Edit: Forgot also, Shadows Fall (Jason Bittner on drums).



Gotta love http://www.swapacd.com/



My personal best metal story is hanging out with the guys from Pantera on a sort of regular basis.

R.I.P. Dimebag

J.D.DIAMOND 08-10-2011 03:42 AM

Hey Flint,
The bands you've listed are "metal" in one way or another yes. The only bands I personally like that you've mentioned are Deicide,Morbid Angel and classic Dio,however I only like 90's Morbid Angel and 90's Deicide.

Anything from the year 2000 - and up till now I just can't stand by these 2 bands,but this is only my opinion and not sitting here acting like everybody should like what I do ect...

I know my opinion isn't a correct one,just my thoughts ect...I do like classic Dio,Holy Diver,Last In line and Sacred Heart are my favs,Magica(year 2000) is also a masterpiece.

I've been into black/death metal since 1984. I'm 41 so in 1984 I was 14 when I started listening to Venom,Mercyful Fate,Bathory,Hellhammer,Celtic Frost...those were called "black metal" bands back then as obviously thats where the norwegians got the term from and did an excellent job continuing it thanks to Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous) in the early 90's.

There was a different vibe back then when this music was rather new. There was a special ideology that was in the air in the 80's with underground metal,even Metallica was underground with Cliff when they used to be "cool".

Today this magic is unfortunately lost through random over crowded population of bands,new trends and just the fact of "time" that changes everything.

The black metal underground wasn't designed to have as many bands it actually has and it killed the genre by the late 90's,and now its just as much of a joke as anything else,once something that is cool is discovered the unworthy always get ahold of it and ruin it,this is no exception.

Bands in the old traditional heavy metal scene are at the end of thier careers now...Black Sabbath,Dio R.I.P....Judas Priest,Iron Maiden,Saxon,and even the rock clad greasy biker rock band legend "Motorhead" won't be around and when they are gone there hasn't been any bands that have harkened this style to continue it.

Unfortunately we are left with shit bands like Godsmack,Disturbed,Shitallica and bands like this. Just a thought lol.

grynch 08-10-2011 04:05 AM

I personally am not sure where to place this band .. metal... proto-metal, early early proto-punk ?... but MC5 played recently a couple of towns over from here.

Kick out the Jams mo'fo..................
http://www.mc5.org/GENS72011.jpg


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