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Clodfobble 02-11-2013 07:55 AM

Emperor Palpatine--er, Pope Benedict resigns
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91A0BH20130211

Seriously, y'all. He's getting medieval on our asses--since he's the first pope to resign since 1415. I, for one, am kind of shocked by the progressiveness of this decision, since everyone seems to think it's because of his role in the child abuse scandals.

glatt 02-11-2013 08:05 AM

I was surprised to hear the news on the radio this morning. They didn't have the 1400's context to report then, so I thought it had never been done before.

ZenGum 02-11-2013 08:25 AM

So, will this make him Ex-Benedict?

Pete Zicato 02-11-2013 08:26 AM

I'm cynical these days, but I suspect that some scandal will surface soon.

limey 02-11-2013 09:13 AM

Yes, I think he's fallen in love with one of his closest aides, and before he commits a cardinal sin he's decided to resign!

infinite monkey 02-11-2013 09:14 AM

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closet aides

footfootfoot 02-11-2013 09:27 AM

I wonder what other tidbits his valet turned up?

infinite monkey 02-11-2013 09:29 AM

He found a joint in the Papal Glove Compartment?

footfootfoot 02-11-2013 09:38 AM

Wow. Can you imagine the conversation the next morning?

Dudes, ego credidi ita luxurie abdicarunt. Quod erat aliquod primum rate cacas. Quis 'pro ientaculo?

Dudes, I was so wasted I thought I resigned. That was some first rate shit. What's for breakfast?

infinite monkey 02-11-2013 09:40 AM

:lol2:

You never fail me, foot.

toranokaze 02-11-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 852299)
So, will this make him Ex-Benedict?

I think so and in honor of his work I'm making eggs Ex-bendict

Spexxvet 02-11-2013 12:07 PM

You know, usually they just murder a pope.

Griff 02-11-2013 04:22 PM

Anyone left in the Church should be very concerned that this nutjob is alive to influence the next choice. He has basically destroyed everything he's touched, but I am grateful that he made my choice to leave so easy. Also my text to the girls this morning was also a Palpatine reference. :)

Pete Zicato 02-11-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 852433)
but I am grateful that he made the choice to leave so easy.

Lotta that going around.

Happy Monkey 02-11-2013 05:47 PM

Probably not a coincidence that the cardinal in charge of covering up predators got elected Pope. Probably not a coincidence that the former cardinal in charge of covering up predators is the first Pope to resign in 600 years.

Gravdigr 02-11-2013 05:54 PM

Somebody must've caught him with his dick in his hand.

And, by his hand, I mean, a little boy's.

ZenGum 02-11-2013 06:08 PM

It could be that, at 85 years and with failing health, he recalls the long drawn-out saga of the decline of the previous pontiff, how the church was unable to do much of anything (unlike the usual situation where it was merely unwilling) and just had to wait for a geriatric pope to die. He's making way for an energetic young 65 year old whippersnapper.

Or it could be that you cynics are right.

Griff 02-11-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 852335)
:lol2:

You never fail me, foot.

Which makes me think...

monster 02-11-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 852333)
Wow. Can you imagine the conversation the next morning?

Dudes, ego credidi ita luxurie abdicarunt. Quod erat aliquod primum rate cacas. Quis 'pro ientaculo?

Dudes, I was so wasted I thought I resigned. That was some first rate shit. What's for breakfast?

lovl

ZenGum 02-11-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

What's for breakfast?
Eggs, Benedict. As always.

tw 02-11-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 852446)
Or it could be that you cynics are right.

Eliminate spin from people whose job is to invent spin. What is left? Numerous accusation supported by facts that say this Pope is guilty of more than just condoning pedophilia.

First, this Pope intentionally demeaned Islam in a famous Regnesburg speech. Saying that Christianity is based in reason. Whereas in Islam, Allah need not act as required by his own word. That Allah can be self-contradicting. And that Allah can act contrary to reason. An apology does not correct what were his opinions. He did not withdrawal his reasoning.

Second, we know this Pope, both as the previous Pope's advisor on the issue and later as Pope, repeatedly protected the Church and its pedophiles at the expense of children. Did so even when American Bishops and Cardinals went, in mass, to Rome to ask for guidance and assistance. Ironically some of those Catholic leaders are later exposed for conducting or protecting pedophilia. And the Pope still did nothing.

Third, corruption is widespread throughout the church as even summarized in Pedophilia Irish Style. Even demonstrated in a survey by The Economist. The Pope's butler exposed some of it by leaking the Pope's own papers as published by Italian journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi. Letters and memos exposed an institution dominated by jealousy, intrigue and underhanded factional fighting. At minimum, the Pope did nothing to address this problem. More likely, he condoned such attitudes. Meanwhile, even American courts exposed financial and other corruption in some archdioceses. The actual corruption probably is much larger.

In short, nobody has any reason to associate words such as honesty and integrity with the Roman Catholic Church. What remains is why this Pope is resigning. Either because he is so ineffective as to be corrupt? Or have reformers politically trapped and forced the resignation of a Pope who condoned corruption for personal and political gain? Both are reasonable possibilities. Only spin from his allies contradict those possiblities.

Either way, the reason this Pope should have gone years ago is because 85% of all problems are directly traceable to the top man. And because this top man had denied or ignored all three problems that tarnish or make corrupt the entire institution.

This Pope was so misguided as to even condemn contraception and family planning. Unfortunately, too many loyal parishioners ignore corruption to faithfully contribute money. Another example of so many who act like children (believe only what they are told) rather than become informed and think logically like an adult. That only makes conditions ripe for more corruption, disparaging other religions, priest who cannot marry, and pedophilia.

ZenGum 02-11-2013 11:10 PM

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Well, yeah, but none of that is new. It never bothered any previous pope.

Here is the real reason:

Attachment 42810

Happy Monkey 02-12-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 852483)
Well, yeah, but none of that is new. It never bothered any previous pope.

Under the previous pope, he was the one who made sure the pope wasn't bothered.

infinite monkey 02-12-2013 08:40 AM

Nice Little Feat reference, Griff. Love that!

Pete Zicato 02-12-2013 09:11 AM

Ha! I just discovered that there is an actual Cardinal Sin - from Manila. It would be great if he had six ninja brothers. They'd be the seven deadly Sins.

footfootfoot 02-12-2013 02:02 PM


tw 02-12-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 852503)
Under the previous pope, he was the one who made sure the pope wasn't bothered.

He was Pope John Paul II's #1 advisor on pedophilia. He told American bishops and Cardinals to ignore and avoid the pedophile problem. As pictures demonstrate, he was also a member of the KKK. (Do they burn crosses in Rome?)

morethanpretty 02-12-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 852333)
Wow. Can you imagine the conversation the next morning?

Dudes, ego credidi ita luxurie abdicarunt. Quod erat aliquod primum rate cacas. Quis 'pro ientaculo?

Dudes, I was so wasted I thought I resigned. That was some first rate shit. What's for breakfast?

Isn't he German?

footfootfoot 02-12-2013 10:36 PM

You're not Catholic, are you?

ZenGum 02-12-2013 11:13 PM

He announced his resignation in Latin.

morethanpretty 02-12-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 852575)
You're not Catholic, are you?

I was baptized catholic...but no. Mom is goin to hell for that one.

ZenGum 02-12-2013 11:58 PM

Meanwhile, in Paris: [NSFW]

http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/top...l#.URsqZPKv-j8

"Feminists", eh? Uhh, okay...

toranokaze 02-13-2013 12:54 AM

So the difference between strippers and feminist is a good catch phrase. Good to know.

footfootfoot 02-13-2013 07:47 AM

what's with the boy shorts and black pantyhose?

morethanpretty 02-13-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 852581)
Meanwhile, in Paris: [NSFW]

http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/top...l#.URsqZPKv-j8

"Feminists", eh? Uhh, okay...

[quote=thelocal]
st year members of the group dressed up as nuns to try to sabotage an anti-gay marriage protest in Paris. The women ripped off their 'habits' to reveal comments scrawled on their naked chests such as "In gay we trust" and F##k the church".

They also fired canisters of tear gas at the marchers.
......
Alain Escada, the president of Civitas, said the catholic group would also be suing Femen for spreading a message in a violent manner, organised violence with arms and threatening the freedom to protest of others.[quote]

:angry::rant:
As well they should be fucking sued for firing tear gas at peaceful protesters. Yes, the protesters are being ignorant bastards, but they have as much of a right to protest peacefully as the cunts firing the tear gas. That is ridiculous and they are hurting the cause the supposedly want to help. Bitches.

I'm not sure about the pantyhose F3, maybe it was so no one would suspect they were mostly naked under the trench coats. If you look at the 2nd pic, there is a logo on their shorts which looks like a white version of their logo:

http://api.ning.com/files/brrd3fTyfT...en_logo_06.jpg

Edit: Also, my tits are so much more awesome than theirs :)

Trilby 02-13-2013 05:01 PM

ok, my CRAZY friend who believes in the rapture says this was predicted 900 years ago and the number 11 is significant as 10 is perfect 11 is chaos. She says this is just ONE of the many prophecies that are gonna rain down on our poor unsaved souls and IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT HE CHOSE TO RESIGN ON 2-11-13. AND he is the 111th Pope. Good god, look busy people.

I really quite like the girl. She's just a nutter.

tw 02-13-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trilby (Post 852700)
She says this is just ONE of the many prophecies that are gonna rain down on our poor unsaved souls and IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT HE CHOSE TO RESIGN ON 2-11-13. AND he is the 111th Pope.

The Pope resigned on 2-13-3735. He was the 157th Pope. Heresy is by those who count using their thumbs.

Everyone knows a thumb is the devil's digit. Often stuck up the ass of a devil worshipper. God's chosen people only count with god's eight chosen digits.

ZenGum 02-13-2013 10:13 PM

Also, he's retiring on the 28th. He just announced it on the 11th.

footfootfoot 02-13-2013 10:20 PM

157 minus 111 = 46
111 plus 157 = 268

268÷46 = 5.82

5.82 pounds is the average weight of a pile of bullshit, so I think Tril's friend is on to something deep. Knee deep, as a matter of fact.

ZenGum 02-13-2013 10:46 PM

Dude, 5.82 lbs is the average weight of a newborn baby. The pope is PREGNANT!

toranokaze 02-14-2013 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty (Post 852669)
Edit: Also, my tits are so much more awesome than theirs :)

I ever so do agree.

Gravdigr 02-14-2013 09:58 AM

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Attachment 42841

tw 02-16-2013 08:02 PM

From the Washington Post of 15 Feb 2013:
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Pope struggled to lift sacred secrecy of Vatican finances
The arrests over the past six months of Palumbo and the 34-year-old lawyer, Simone Fazzari, highlight one major source of the scandals and power struggles that observers say contributed to Pope Benedict XVI's historic resignation this week - the murky world of Vatican finances. ...

Last month, Italy barred its own banks from doing business in the Holy See, citing a lack of transparency by the city-state's financial apparatus that has routinely declined to release data on accounts held there by church bodies, clergy, foreign embassies and lay entities related to the Vatican. The move cut off credit card processing at Vatican commercial sites including the Sistine Chapel, ...

That followed a series of Italian money-laundering investigations, including one that led to the 2010 seizure of nearly $30 million worth of Vatican Bank holdings kept outside the Holy See.

Evidence suggests the outgoing pope sought to shed light on the dark Vatican books, but that effort yielded even more controversy. The former president of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, was forced to resign in May, alleging he was fired for getting "too close to the truth." Last year, other documents leaked by the pope's butler and other sources revealed the depth of the internal tug of war over financial transparency, with Vatican reformers pitted against traditionalists who appeared to believe the church should answer only to a higher power.

On Friday, the pope backed a decision by a commission of cardinals to name Ernst von Freyberg to head the Vatican Bank. ... However, Italian commentators were quick to question why the choice was not left to the incoming pope.

"It seems like an attempt to force the situation, not to leave the new pope an option," said Massimo Franco, author of "The Crisis of the Vatican Empire" ... "I find it quite strange that this is the last major act of the pope." ...

In the 1980s, Banco Ambrosiano, a financial institution largely owned by the Vatican Bank, became embroiled in a money-laundering scandal related to the Sicilian mafia. In June 1982, Ambrosiano's former chairman, Roberto Calvi - dubbed "God's banker" ... - was found hanging from London's Blackfriars Bridge in a death that was ruled a homicide and has yet to be solved. ...

In December 2010, however, Benedict took a landmark step toward transparency, issuing a motu proprio, or papal letter, forbidding money laundering and the financing of terrorism. More importantly, for the first time, he established an independent Vatican watchdog, the Financial Intelligence Authority.
Why would this cause traditionalist to force the Pope out? These traditionalist apparently even ignored rampant pedophilia. Why does Papal reform cause a Pope to resign? Who really is running the Catholic Church? How corrupt is it?

Trilby 02-17-2013 06:18 AM

my friend who is lovely and loving and COMPLETELY crazy uses her own math.

we went to school together which is why neither of us can do math.


when we were in 6th grade we were both in love with the same band and we wrote a 6th grade version of a porno novel involving our fave band.

And no, I won't tell you said band's name. But they were Scots. In terms of Loving Hot Scots (Braveheart, Rob Roy, The Diana Gabaldon time travel series, Nessie and Groundskeeper Willie) we were WAAAAAAY ahead of the curve.

xoxoxoBruce 02-20-2013 04:22 PM

Fifty Shades of Plaid. :eek:

Griff 02-22-2013 05:43 AM

So not a dead girl or a live boy but rather...

Gay Clergy

BigV 02-27-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 853775)
Fifty Shades of Plaid. :eek:

Saw a toyota pickup today painted plaid. looked like Black Watch. I'll try to catch a photo tomorrow.

tw 03-10-2013 03:00 PM

Plenty of politics ongoing in Rome. And not much talking. Some of what we know. Italian Cardinals want to rush to a vote. Making an Italian Papacy more likely. But Cardinals from other continents are stalling.

Why stalling? Obviously the Italians have an inside track. The sooner that vote, then better chance for an Italian Pope. But far more is (probably) hotly debated. We know the Catholic Church is rampant with corruption. And can suspect many fully involved insiders are Cardinals. A voting delay means more time for investigators to uncover and identify those who are corrupt. Many Cardinals would need one of their own in power to subvert such investigations.

A strong but still underpowered demand for investigations exist since (for example) most archdiocese even covered up and protected pedophiles. And were encourage to do so in Rome. Hardly a month goes by when another is exposed. The latest being the #1 Cardinal from Britain.

Collecting enough reformist Cardinals in Rome long enough to become united and to get access to the facts creates fear among the so many others who have profited in widespread Catholic Church corruption.

Important is when the conclave begins. A longer delay probably means more power going to reformists.

ZenGum 03-10-2013 06:39 PM

That British Cardinal wasn't a pedophile. He was just gay and sexually harassing (adult) priests. And hypocritically anti-gay.

tw 03-10-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 856307)
He was just gay and sexually harassing (adult) priests.

While repeatedly lying about crimes no different from overt Civil Rights violations by a Ku Klux Klan member. "Sexual abuse" is how we word "rape" to sound less harmful.


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