A Cold Winters Night
 

I freeze for lack of love,
I look to the heavens above,
I fight to be understood,
Apparently there's no-one,
Worth understanding Me,
Apparently I'm on Top,
And your all under my feat,
My cold blue bare feet,
I'd wear shoes but,
Can't afford that either,
So smell the fungus,
Between my toes,
As I stomp your nose,
Into the ground,
The cold hard concrete pavement,
It's where your face belongs,
Was meant to be,
Tossed like shaft into the sea,
Better Learn how to swim,
Cause the hypo thermeia,
Is going to make you squarmia,
I'd apologize for the few lies I did tell,
But you don't deserve it,
Your just not worth it,
So I leave this place cold and hard,
Just like I found it,
I have a boat but why,
Would I want to put you on it,
You'd just be a mutiny at sea,
And I'm just peaceful me,
So die another death,
See if I care,
I've tried everything,
Done everything,
And said everything,
To make you care,
But where are you,
No where to be found,
Getting Beatin into the ground,
By some Fight Club sound,
Don't feel bad I can't win either,
But I have to make a choice between,
Them and you and I say Neither,
Hopefully in spring it'll warm up a bit,
Then maybe you wouldn't have such a fit,
At a Hellen Keller Child with a Hellen Keller Nit,
My eyes see all, and all I see,
Is a bunch of people looking at me,
Like They want to be my God and My God say NO,
So on this last note I must go,
I had hope to find some really good friends,
But all you've proved is the way it ends,
Rockefeller smock a feller he never paid his bills anyway.

:(

On 1/8 JBK was given a week of "time out" for what some perceived as a threat.
But then... only 6 days later... Sexobon called for JBK's release:
This was followed by 5 days of postings between the two men, culminating in this thread.

These are Sexobon's separate and individual postings directed at JBK since then :

Sexobon's usual tactic is to response if someone protests is that he (Sexobon) was misunderstood,
or he was only offering a "challenge" to the person, and sometimes so he (Sexobon) could show or diagnose the person's problem.

JBK's open, lucid, and emotional, poem above, is dramatic a call for relief from an verbal adult bully.
I'm hopeful the Dwellar community responds in some way to prevent any more such episodes.

Good thing you're not gay. You can be magnanimous. Sexo instigated, to be sure, but dude is unstable and possibly dangerous. I took Sexo's digging at him as an attempt to expose and illuminate his extremism. Search the phrase "shot in the head"

While I find sexobon's treatment of JB both now and in the past to be repulsive, the fact is sexobon did not convince him that he works for Scotland Yard. That is JB's own personal delusion, and it proves (to me, at least) that he's gone beyond the point where we can help him. Often these diseases go in cycles, and we can hope that JB will cycle back down again at some point in the future, for his own well-being.

You took it for what it was. Others, whose interventions were well intentioned but ineffective (as elsewhere noted by glatt), are just reading into it what they want for their own purposes. I'm results oriented and simply catalyzed the inevitable (also noted by glatt). It would have been inappropriate for the moderators to do that, thus creating a niche for a plain vanilla dwellar experienced in cutting losses to step up and facilitate their ability to prevent further degradation of the community.

If you want to learn the procedure and underlying principles, post your interest in this thread. I'll respond by PM to those whom I believe will appropriately employ and maintain a chain of custody on the information. While I don't generally do other than administrative PMs, there is an occasional exception. I believe the community would benefit from a few others knowing this particular elicitation technique. If you don't hear from me, you're not a candidate and I won't tell you why.

Lamp, this is neither pro not anti Sexobon, but I think in the above JBK was using the collective form of the word "you" on many occasions.
He's been asked to address his posting behaviour and content many times, and more than one Dwellar has expressed that they find his posts offensive, and that they reflect badly on the Cellar.

At present he is unable to understand or accept that his views are considered extreme.
And as LJ says, we have no responsibility to change the Cellar just to keep him here.

Thank goodness we have you looking out for us.

:rolleyes: If only we had a self-fellating emoticon...

Your "elicitation technique" is called "goading," and everyone here learned how to do it on the elementary playground. If you'd like, you can post your interest in this thread about our special "discretion technique."

LOL. yeah. wow, sexo... you been drinking from tw's cup?

that's a pretty corny post. not your usual M.O. I was waiting for you to tell us to refer to you as "Cold Steel" from now on.

No takers huh? I am disappoint. Looks like I'll have to find someone else to sell my oceanfront property in Arizona to.

JBKlyde of Scotland Yard would have taken me up on my offer. Perhaps we were a bit hasty ...

Soon, I'm going to start my first thread ever in the Cellar. I'm considering dedicating it to some other dwellar (e.g. Clodfobble). If you want input into my decision as to whom it should be dedicated, post your interest in this thread. While I don't generally do opening posts, other than as anonymous, there is an occasional exception. I believe the community would benefit from a few others being recommended for this honor. If you aren't notified by me, you weren't a viable candidate and I won't tell you why.

Now who's off his meds?

Sent by thought transference

Didn't Jesus cure the leopards?


"Once you start using slippery slope arguments, the next thing you know you're employing straw men and red herrings. It's a slippery slope." Jim Helm

Just seeing if there were any stragglers who didn't bite the first time. :p:

Holy shit, I missed this thread. :facepalm:


The battle of the Shit-Stirrers!
Hurry, hurry, hurry, step right up, right here in the center ring!
One crazy, one maybe less so, can you decipher the intent?
Vote you're choice with the coupon off your popcorn or Cracker Jacks box. :lol2:


Did this cause Lamplighter drive off in a shiny new Snit?

The Cellar is like a coffee shop? Like a family of crazy relatives? Like a community?
Hell no, more like a city... not Gotham mind you, but a genuine bigger than a town, city.
Wandering around you see things that are familiar and reassuring. Sometimes you'll see things that are disgusting or disturbing.
Sometimes it depends on your mood. The city looks different on the way home from work if it's been a good day or bad day.

You might see the cop tell a guy to empty his pockets and seeing they were empty, give the guy a couple bucks for food. Yo, internet... could happen.
Or maybe the happy drunk who waves at people, cars, busses, trashcans, puking up what looks like green sewer rat. Eww, grossed out... but safe.

In the Cellar you're safe... however you're ego, pride, and pedestal, are on their own. ;)


Damn, I missed my chance to be a link in the chain.

Well, he hasn't been back since. Not sure describing it as a 'shiny new snit' is fair. I suspect he was a little disgusted.

Fair? We ain't got no fair. We don't need no stinkin' fair. :lol:

JBK's 'poem' (more lik an Eminem-rap-a-like) was open, and it was emotional...'Lucid'? Not so much. I've never seen a 'lucid' JBK post.

Either Lamplighter doesn't know what lucid means, or it means something different in the PDX.

Maybe not. sexobon is trolling recruiting for input. You could be a link ***and*** a tool. All it takes is one little private message to him. :D

Handle that for me would you, let me know what his response is to your PM. :cool:

*thnort!*

From day one in the Cellar back in APR 06, I've had the Cellar administration and one other person on my contact list. That was Tonchi, who invited me to check this place out. Other than those, I've done one PM in the past eight years. That was a professional courtesy to regular.joe, who requested it in the forums, while on active duty putting his life on the line for us. Abba-de, abba-de, abba-de, th-th-th-that's all folks!

Oh ferchristsake, you make it sound like an accomplishment.
You choose not to receive or send PMs. Fine, your choice.
After all, isn't that what Regular Joe was fighting for?
But personal choice isn't equal to a noble goal,
not pulling the sword from the stone. :haha:

That's your interpretation. It's a little skewed; but, at you advanced age not unexpected. I was just letting people know so they don't waste their time trying.

Did you know that if you get a friend request, you can't get it out of your notification box; unless, you reply one way or the other ... you have to reply. Make yourself useful and find a way around that Mr. former moderator.

Nay, don't do windows, besides I have no power here. Former is like being Col Sanders, sounds good but nobody salutes you... think Rodney Dangerfield. All I can do to keep 'em off the lawn. :haha:

Besides, why expend worry/effort over something which doesn't bother me, I'll just step over it like the dead cat in the living room. Life is so much easier when you're not anal.

Hey, I've got a WWII Airborne Glider badge. Shiny silver, too heavy for aluminum, non-magnetic, brass I'd guess. I've seen Vietnam era ones, black, green, dark. Do they still use them or are they now a blast from the past?

I've never seen anyone wearing a glider badge on their uniform. Wikipedia says the closing date for award of the glider badge is in '61 although qualifying events ceased many years earlier. Everyone awarded the badge would still be authorized to wear it; but, I don't think there could be anyone left on active duty. Retirees; however, are authorized to wear their uniforms on appropriate occasions and there may still be someone out there with it on theirs.

If you haven't already checked, see if it has Sterling or .925 on the back of the badge as I'm sure some were made. In my day, sterling silver qualification badges were optional, available for purchase through the PX or Clothing Sales Store. Issued badges were 5% silver filled base metal marked 1/20 SF.

During the period your badge comes from, sterling silver jewelry was sometimes Rhodium plated to keep it tarnish free and shiny though they did the same with base metal versions too. I wore an older, all shiny plated base metal version of the French parachutist badge rather than the contemporary antique finish one they issued me in France. US Army regs at the time permitted antique finish; or, "bright" finish badges though all the badges on one's uniform had to be the same.

There has always been plenty of collectors of military insignias. In some parts of the country there are militaria (military paraphernalia) shows which like gun shows, coin shows, and other hobbyist shows have a bourse and such. People there can authenticate (differentiate USGI from a period commercial copy) and elaborate on what you have.

No markings but it's shiny as hell with no hint of fingerprints no less corrosion, some 70 odd years later. Granted it wasn't handle much over the years, but it wasn't protected other than rattling around the dresser drawer.

I was curious if it was a discontinued badge from so long ago and far away that it would be obvious it couldn't have been mine. That way I could pin it to my hat without being accused of misrepresenting by the medal Nazis who I think are bat-shit crazy. I've seen them fuck with a guy wearing some ribbons and tin on a fucking muscle shirt. I don't want to put myself in a position where I have to shoot some fucker over dumb shit.