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Undertoad 04-01-2020 10:05 AM

COV shutdown will tell us a lot about CO2
 
I just realized - we're seeing clear skies in Chinese and Indian cities, clear water in Venice, etc. The pollution has ramped way down for a quarter -- and we are going to learn a bunch of things! Will the Mauna Loa CO2 graph be affected? This should tell us a lot about how much current CO2 in the atmosphere is man-made and what efforts to curtail it will do.

Griff 04-01-2020 10:35 AM

Yeah, that part of this is pretty interesting. The data could prove useful. Work from home may end up being a thing to watch as well.

Flint 04-01-2020 12:48 PM

Apparently Attila the Hun's conquest killed 40 million people, or 11% of the world's population, and enough to cause a change in the global CO2 level. According to some documentary I was watching on Hulu.

Dude111 04-12-2020 04:35 PM

Gov Cuomo says it is a preparation drill going on...

www.bitchute.com/video/QifJjdUVmSTt

Whatever it is,its a nightmare!!

BigV 04-12-2020 04:51 PM

wtf.

Have you heard of YouTube?

Dude111 04-12-2020 09:27 PM

Here it is on Cuomos own site

http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/vide...o-announces-10

Its a stretch but it is kinda suspicious when he talks about "Preperation Drill" -- This was on another site saying this going on now is a drill and it is kinda suspicious reading

Quote:

...What do we do now? Well, we need to do more testing and more advanced testing and we have to do it faster. That's both the diagnostic testing, that's the anti-body testing. We have to get better at both and we have to be able to create a higher volume faster. We have to be more prepared. We should never go through what we went through on this preparation drill. The federal stimulus bill is going to be key...

xoxoxoBruce 04-12-2020 11:05 PM

It's true that better faster testing is a very potent tool against pandemics, places like Singapore have proven it works.

Dude111 04-13-2020 04:17 AM

Well from the way he says "We should never go through what we went through on this preparation drill." it sounds like its almost over....... LETS HOPE IT IS!!!!!!!!

This has been a nightmare.......

xoxoxoBruce 04-13-2020 08:40 AM

We should be better prepared, masks, ventilators, capability, public aware of what to do when the news comes. This has been a drill, a learning curve for the future. The obits in yesterdays Boston Globe ran 11 pages.

Dude111 04-13-2020 02:10 PM

I think its interesting they removed that page I posted above from Cuomos site!!!

They realised they shouldnt have admitted it was a drill........


I tell ya,people are really something else........ ANYONE THAT CANT SEE SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS GOING ON.......

xoxoxoBruce 04-13-2020 04:33 PM

WTF, every flood, famine, plague is a drill to see what goes wrong, what could have been better preparation to not make the same mistakes in the future. That doesn't make it a conspiracy, it's what smart agencies do.

glatt 04-13-2020 04:51 PM

Yeah. But big government. Cut those agencies. It’s been 10 years since the last disaster. It won’t happen again.

xoxoxoBruce 04-13-2020 04:58 PM

I said smart, not Federal. :lol:
But you're right I'm sure all the agencies go through that post mortem of events, but then politicians come along and kill or at least castrate the agencies.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-19-2020 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1049929)
Apparently Attila the Hun's conquest killed 40 million people, or 11% of the world's population, and enough to cause a change in the global CO2 level. According to some documentary I was watching on Hulu.

I guess dead men *don't* exhale. Daang.

Well, not more than once.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-19-2020 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 1050849)
Yeah. But big government. Cut those agencies. It’s been 10 years since the last disaster. It won’t happen again.

There's an imperative here that professionally-run agencies observe with some faith -- apart from permanently seeking a larger slice of budget pie on the chart, there is the imperative to get the most bang out of every budget dollar they actually get.

Absolute, law-of-gravity adherence to these isn't going to happen, but the nearer they approach either or both, the better run the agency.

tw 04-19-2020 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1049919)
I just realized - we're seeing clear skies in Chinese and Indian cities, clear water in Venice, etc.

In America, Nitrogen Oxide levels have decreased (last I saw) by 30%. That means clearer skys. Any numbers for CO2? I have not seen any. CO2 does not affect visibility.

BigV 04-20-2020 12:55 PM

Free-Falling: U.S. Oil Drops Below $3 Per Barrel As Demand Disappears
Quote:

A key U.S. benchmark hit single digits for the first time in many decades, then kept plummeting, with oil selling for less than $3 a barrel. At the start of 2020, a barrel cost around $60.
WOW.


Holy shit. When I found this headline, it said $3 a barrel, when I composed the post and clicked through to the story the headline had been updated to $2 a barrel. That's a LOT of CO2 staying in the ground. Less than $2 a barrel.

Clodfobble 04-20-2020 12:58 PM

The irony is that if/when local gas stations start going out of business, it will become much harder for the average suburbanite to get what gas they do need.

BigV 04-20-2020 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 1051261)
The irony is that if/when local gas stations start going out of business, it will become much harder for the average suburbanite to get what gas they do need.

Thank you Clodfobble for the reminder to take all my portable gas containers with me to be refilled when I go on a raiding party for toilet paper.

BigV 04-20-2020 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1051260)
Free-Falling: U.S. Oil Drops Below $3 Per Barrel As Demand Disappears


WOW.


Holy shit. When I found this headline, it said $3 a barrel, when I composed the post and clicked through to the story the headline had been updated to $2 a barrel. That's a LOT of CO2 staying in the ground. Less than $2 a barrel.

Here's the headline now, 2:06 pm PST:

Quote:

Free Fall: Oil Prices Go Negative
April 20, 202011:21 AM ET
just fuckin wow.

Quote:

The key U.S. oil benchmark, West Texas Intermediate, settled at negative $37.63.

Driven by a trading contract deadline, traders desperately looked for buyers for the barrels of oil they normally hold in their books. But buyers were hard to find — even when the oil was being given away for free.

So some traders, instead of paying to buy oil, were ready to pay as much as $37.63 to get someone to accept delivery of one barrel of oil.

tw 04-21-2020 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1051271)
... take all my portable gas containers with me to be refilled when I go on a raiding party for toilet paper.

Save the economy. Buy massive amounts of gasoline to create a gigantic toilet paper fire. Then oil companies and toilet paper manufacturers will be saved by all that new business.

Then start a recycling business. Collect unused Covid-19 to burn in those oil fires. Another economic solution. Imagine that. It was proposed in the Cellar before The Don could tweet it.

Dude111 04-22-2020 12:05 AM

People dont realise how this is gonna hurt the economy!!

tw 04-22-2020 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 1051363)
People dont realise how this is gonna hurt the economy!!

Low income people (and their landlords) are probably very aware.

Urbane Guerrilla 05-10-2020 10:03 PM

Welp, prices did not stay in the Land Of Surreal long. West Texas Intermediate 42 gallon barrel is $24-and-change, change maybe depending on which hour of the day you averaged.

With a buyer's market like that -- the Strategic Petroleum Reserve did not miss the opportunity -- a V-shaped economic recovery looms. Except in choke-collared places like New York, New Jersey and California, dammit.


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