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Hello everyone new member here! How is everyone this Thursday? Everyone tell me about yourself!

Hello. Very nice to have you here.

Do you have any objection to the shortened name, C-u? The name "Cuddles" makes me want to vomit. At the same time I dont want to avoid you so if there's no prob with C-u, thats what your nickname will be.

A nickname "right out of the gate" is a good thing.

Check out my profile. Maybe we have something in common to talk about.

welcome "CUDDLES"


or is it "the artist formerly known as r9703410"?

Do you attend church?

Do you believe that the UN is attempting to take over the world?

answer carefully!

Were you for or against the GW's war against me?

Do you listen to talk radio by any chance?

Do you like football? If you do, do you think I am an "average" quarterback?

So....how I can I change the subject of this thread?

Were you in a "red" or a "blue" state during the 2000 elections?

Do you like to smoke when you surf the net (that I initiated the development of)?

I'm not r9 whatever. My name is Brittany.

I was gonna have Chad post something witty but I forgot his password.

Are you in high skool?

Are you pregnant?

Yeah why do you ask?

Becuase we enjoy hassling new people. :D

Why, thats kind of mean don't you think?

LMAO....Dave!!....she thinks that was mean.

what, i think, we have here folks is a different person than April, the 17 yr old mom/highschool student.

so what if they happen to reside in the same body?

Odd. Nobody ever asked me if I attend church...


But I'll answer anyway.


NEVER


There. That felt better.


Carry on then...

(makes a checkmark in the "never" column in FNF's file)

Unless they come in and make an ass out of themselves right away, I try to give new members the benefit of the doubt.

There is probably a new member "hazing" type thing that goes on. It's not mean... it's just that everyone needs someone to beat on for a little while, and when someone else comes along, your term is up.

I never got this experience, 'cause I got here before it really started in this incarnation. I guess it could also be said that I'm the one that started it. :)

I get tired of writing "welcome" posts to new members that end up not sticking around. So, here's the deal: you'll either like it or you won't. If you stay long enough, eventually most people will mostly like you. It's always good to have mature younger people around, so if that's you, you'll probably enjoy some of the discussion here and fit in. If it's not you, and a lot of it seems over your head, then it probably is. There's nothing wrong with that. The Cellar is like a pair of underwear. It'll either fit or it won't. If it doesn't, you'll find another pair of underwear and all will be well.

Lastly, don't take anything personally. It's not meant that way about 94% of the time.

Have a good day.

Don't get me started or I'll turn this place into scorched earth!

:)

dave, i think this belongs in the tag line thread

And sometimes there's a hook with a nice big bunch of salmon roe on it. You get hooked, flop around for a while, then realize you'd be better off just spitting it out.

Same old choice...spit or swallow.;)

Mmmmm... Salmon roe ...

Or might as well.

She's knocked up (where r970 has whelped) and thinks we're mean.

The sadness with which I report the former piece of information is extreme. Actually only yesterday I asked a 14 year old male if he had any children (i'm required to ask everybody, no matter what their age) and he responded that he had a two week old daughter.

FOUR-fucking-teen. Unbelievable.

Does that mean anything or do you just keep track for the hell (sorry) of it?

Yep 14 the age is getting lower and lower!

...you don't say?!

I wouldn't say this is something to be proud of. As a matter of fact, I find it quite troubling.

I have a girl in my parenting class who is 16 with a 3 year old. Preggo at 12, baby at 13.

Again, this is troubling. I don't blame the children (because that's truly what they are) I blame the parents. Something is definitely wrong with a society that has such a high number of kids having babies.

Those kids shouldn't even know about sex, let alone be having it.

Considering in most cases, my tax dollars are funding this, I really think something needs to be done about it.

Yeah I know what you mean. Believe me if I could take it back I would but I can't.

I find your post troubling.

If the 'kids' are old enough to have sex they're old enough to understand the responsibility.

I especialy find "Those kids shouldn't even know about sex, let alone be having it." most disturbing. I knew about "sex" before I was 7 years old. No I'm not kidding. I'm serious. Needless to say I had no real interest in the act other than the "Why would anyone do that?" till the age of about 12. By 14 I was as horny as any other teenager, but I didn't go sticking my thing into every hole I could find, not because holes were not available either. I just didn't want to get invovled in something that I felt I was not ready for yet.

The problem isn't that "kids shouldn't even know about sex" it's that they SHOULD know about sex and be educted in such a way that they understand that it's a wonderful thing that's not to be ashamed of but carries a lot of responsibilites with it and that unless they are willing to accept that responsibility they should keep their pants on. I could go on into how kids should also be taught that sex is meant to happen with someone you love not someone you just want to fuck but thats another matter.

In my opinion most the child pregnancy problems are occuring directly because of LACK of sex education in schools. In Germany I was 10 when I first officialy learned about sex, the how, the why etc. In the US I was 16 and the "sex ed" was more like "STD bad. Condom good. Abstinance better." and that teaches nothing.

Be careful with that. You may be young enough that you need assistance learning how to take care of a child, but remember that you're the only one who can provide the child with the true, unconditional love of a parent. Learn from the mistake, regret the mistake, but don't regret the birth of your child. Raise that kid right and it will all be worth it.

I wasn't saying I hate the fact that I had her I love her to death. I'm just saying I would have done different. Does that make since?

Just making sure. Its important that a child know she's loved.

I essentially agree with FileNotFound. The problem isn't that thtey know about sex; it's that they don't know enough. Kids shouldn't be scared out of sex, but they should definitely be educated about it.

(I learned about sex when I was five or six, "learned" about it in school when I was 11, "learned" about it again when I was 13. Thankfully, my education was a bit better than what FNF describes.)

Shes loved more than she'll ever know!

Yes, perth, all too often, a child is labelled as an "accident." This creates the feeling of unwantedness and can pervade a person's self esteem into their adulthood.

R9, feel grateful that you have this wonderful new person in your life. It will be worth all the pain and uncertainty.

~Case

Thanks!

I was a New Year's Eve accident...but my mom always made sure to tell me that I wasn't a mistake. :)

I think teenage pregnancy is due to a combination of factors--bad parenting, curiosity, sex in the media, poor sex education (at home and at school), genetic defect, etc.

I've always found it interesting how much the US loves sex, yet still seems so unwilling to talk about the issues that surround it.

We look at the people who talk about the joys of sex as naughty or a bit kooky. And when people preach abstinence only, it just doesn't register like it might have back in the day.

FNF touched on this, but I think we need to be more open about it, we should push contraception more and we need to stress how serious having a child is, and how dramatically it can alter your life.

I'm lucky...my parents didn't tell me shit about sex, so I had to learn by book. That, and I had the sense to know that I didn't want any kids at such a young age. Though I think my education played a role as well.

If I recall my days of sociology class...or maybe it was one of my psych classes...anyway, the concept/theory/study/whatever was that the more educated you are, the more money you make, and the fewer number of children you have. I don't know how solid this is, but it seems to be the case (with exceptions of course). Based on this, it would seem the best place to start is in the classroom (though parents should take charge in the end).

I wish I would have taken some sex ed class in Jr. high!

We got schooled in it every year...they don't do that where you live?

No nothing of the sort.

Having said this, I don't remember much about it...not until freshman year of high school.

FNF - I find your post troubling.

Which you're entitled to, opinions are free :)

FNF - If the 'kids' are old enough to have sex they're old enough to understand the responsibility.

And it's the parent's job to teach that responsibility - not to pawn it off on the public school which has enough problems with teaching math, science, and grammar.

FNF- I especialy find "Those kids shouldn't even know about sex, let alone be having it." most disturbing. I knew about "sex" before I was 7 years old.

Did you not say that you grew up in another country? (If I remember correctly) It's more common elsewhere to have a healthy attitude about sex. What it is, what it can do, what it means. Other cultures are more 'open' about such things. Unfortunately, in a society as 'open' as ours, we tend to shove such important things under the rug.

FNF - The problem isn't that "kids shouldn't even know about sex" it's that they SHOULD know about sex and be educted in such a way that they understand that it's a wonderful thing that's not to be ashamed of but carries a lot of responsibilites with it and that unless they are willing to accept that responsibility they should keep their pants on.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. But it's not the school system's job to do this. I don't think that it's the government's job to raise my children. (And as you know, that's who runs public schools)

FNF - I could go on into how kids should also be taught that sex is meant to happen with someone you love not someone you just want to fuck but thats another matter.

Again, something that should be handled at home.

However, if you look at society today, kids are showered in sex on a daily basis. They are never given the messages that we both agree that they should have. They are never told that women are not objects with boobs and arses that need to be flaunted. They're forced to grow up LONG before they're ready to BE grown up. Their role models are (IMO) sluts (shall I post pictures of Britney and Christina?)

And this is not because they're taught about condoms in school. IMO this is because a large number of families today are so fractured and dysfunctional that they don't communicate about what's important.

20 years ago (when I graduated from high school) it was rare that a girl was pregnant before she left high school. 10 years later, we had our first day care in high school in my county. Now, in some school districts, you have more teen parents than not. And there are boys who are fathers to multiple children and are not held responsible for it.

I pay taxes, and work hard to do it. My tax dollars fund welfare programs that pay for teen mothers - and in my opinion enable the problem to get worse. "If I get pregnant, I'll just go on welfare, no big deal - " Sorry, but if you do that, and you're old enough to work - you better be. You're old enough to have that baby, you better be old enough to support it.

It's called responsibility. And there are plenty of cases where kids aren't held responsiblity for the messes they cause.

Dagney

We need one so bad. I live in Houston the conditions are bad!

They use to separate boys and girls during sex ed in my school. this was in 4th grade, so there was entirely too much giggling going on to keep both genders in the same room.

It's a well known statistic, and a true one. It's even scarier than you realize.

Here's how it goes: Assume year 1980

Uneducated Retard:
Pregnant at 14, 18 ,24, 28,34
Total of kids 5.

Educacted Career Crazed:
Pregnant at 35, 38
Total kids 2.

By year 2020 the follwing is true:
Uneducated Retard has produced 5 kids now aged:
26
22
16
12
6

The Educated has produced only 2 kids now aged:
5
2

But the catch is that not only has the uneducated retard produced 5 kids but those have also produced kids. In fact this is the result:

Educated:
2 kids: 5,2.
Total : 2

Uneducated:
26 year old, with 3 kids
22 year old, with 2 kids
16 year old, with 1 kid
12 year old,
6 year old.
Total: 11, +3 in the next 2 years

Now THAT is scary. It's true. It's happening.

Dag, I think the idea of "welfare will take care of me" is wearing off, particularly since the transition of AFDC to state-level TANF programs.

Besides, people are retarded if they think they can live off it. Rho gets SSDI, which she is grateful for, but it only provides her with 57% (after taxes) of what she was making before she became disabled. Now granted, I make good money, so it's not an issue, but imagine what's it like for people who live and die by that.

We as a country definitely need to focus more on "hand ups," as opposed to handouts or "fuck you, you don't need any help."

Whoa, FNF, where does Juju fit in? He's educated, but he's a retard. He's reproducing early.

That's that whole being from the south thing--it's an automatic limiter.

But is he reproducing rapidly without seeming desire to stop?

The poblem is that the uneducated retards not only reproduce early and rapidly but they don't seem to stop till they have 4-8 kids.

It's worse because by the time an educacted person has kids, it's several "retard generations" later and only 2-3 kids. By the time educated mass has reached the 3rd generating the uneducated have gone through a dozen...

You know you have a point.

I have an aunt who fits FnF's described profile exactly. Pumped out 5 kids early on, all girls. And not a one of em waited until beyond the age of 15 to have their first kids. Each one now has a least 2, and no one can keep track of it. I've asked her how many grandkids she nas now. Her response? In all seriousness, "Oh, I don't know".

And its really sad, because I see these kids and I realise they have no fucking chance in life. Doomed to poor parenting, poor schooling, none of the "luxuries" a kid should get, like their parents attention or encouragement.

Whats worse is the fact that things like this get passed generation to generation. There is no way to stop them! So while a family with good habits and philosophies on child rearing is having 1, maybe 2 kids, they're getting outnumbered by amazing orders of magnitude by people who insist on breeding more stupidity into the gene pool.

Oh yeah, all her daughters are gross too. I think they drugged the fathers to keep them from running top speed in the opposite direction.

FileNotFound -- see _The Marching Morons_, by Cyril Kornbluth. He found a solution to the problem. Two, actually, as he committed suicide in real life.

I have a solution of my own, but it just involves not having kids and letting your descendants worry about the problem.