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Undertoad 01-06-2004 10:54 AM

1/6/2004: Dutch fan ban
 
http://cellar.org/2004/dutchfanban.jpg

This was a European item that never made it to the states, so some of you have already seen it.

These gents are Dutch. On the right is Mayor Wim Deetman, posing gladly with a fan of the local football club (aka soccer team). What the Hon. Mr. Deetman doesn't know is that the fan's, er, unit is proudly on display. He learned that a few days later, when the image started getting distributed on the net.

Writing from Philadelphia, where the fans have a terrible reputation of being uncultured, uncivilized beer-bellied louts -- it gives me great joy to highlight fans of not just other cities, but altogether other cultures, acting worse than any Philly fan ever would. (Sure, we booed Santa Claus, but what they never report is what a crappy Santa Claus it was. And sure, we threw snowballs at Jimmy Johnson. Please - it was Jimmy Johnson! Enough said.)

The mayor apparently pressed charges, and the team banned the fan from their stadium.

It's the look on the guy's face that makes the shot.

full story

ndetroit 01-06-2004 11:20 AM

HA HA HA...

Yes, that is the look of "Please sir, may I now have my 15th Heineken?"

I know it well...


But sorry UT, I don't think anyone will ever surpass philly's fans... I mean, you guys booed a local boy during his homecoming at the NBA all-star game, when he got the MVP award...

Where's the love?


(of course, in retrospect... it *was* kobe... hmmm... )

ukamikanasi 01-06-2004 11:47 AM

Uncensored, if anyone's interested (NSFW): http://www.geenstijl.nl/gm/paginas/deetmanvoorlul.html

xoxoxoBruce 01-06-2004 12:04 PM

I think the guy in the background knew.

Undertoad 01-06-2004 01:03 PM

Thanks Uk. I did take a look around for the full version, but didn't find it, I guess because I don't read the language.

Kobe: the kid said something totally disrespectful about Philly the week before the game. I can't remember what it was.

There was also:<ul><li> the Irvin injury booing (in which years of Irvin's taunting the crowd were forgotten);

<li>the San Francisco Monday night game in which a flair gun was fired, spawning the in-stadium courtroom;

<li>Kids fighting it out on national TV on the Phils' opening day;

<li>a Destiny's Child smackdown for wearing a Lakers logo (they deserved it)
</ul>
But they also flew down to Miami and took over the stadium for the Monday night game. How often does that happen? They also fill Carolina's arena for away hockey. Away hockey!

SteveDallas 01-06-2004 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad

<li>a Destiny's Child smackdown for wearing a Lakers logo (they deserved it)


Yeah I remember seeing that---but I didn't hear about a smackdown.. Glad there was one.

Undertoad 01-06-2004 01:29 PM

I don't remember how bad it was, but I do remember the one D.C. member being pretty unhappy about her treatment. Bah-hah.

It strikes me that the Dutch fan can still say that his love for his team is uncut.

ndetroit 01-06-2004 02:26 PM

Didn't JD Drew get smoked in the head when he was playing outfield by a bunch of fans throwing batteries at him as well? ;)


I'm sure every city has wacky fan stories ... you just hear about them more often coming out of philly...

hah! :)


elSicomoro 01-06-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
a Destiny's Child smackdown for wearing a Lakers logo (they deserved it)
In their defense, one had a Lakers pseudo-jersey on, one had a Sixers one on, and the third had one with the NBA logo. Plus, they were entertaining a national television audience, the vast majority of them probably rooting for the Lakers. What the Philadelphia fans did was pathetic, but not really surprising.

I've been to several towns, seen several teams...and I have to say that Philadelphia fans are probably the worst fans in the United States. The only fans that come close are Washington, DC fans...but they're not overly hateful, just delusional.

Drew was recently traded to the Braves, which should increase Phillies fans' hatred of him that much more. He sucks anyway...it's not like the Phillies were missing anything.

xoxoxoBruce 01-06-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

I've been to several towns, seen several teams...and I have to say that Philadelphia fans are probably the worst fans in the United States
Or the best, depending which side of the fence you're on. REAL philadelphia fans, feel they are the best. It's only we CASUAL Philadelphia fans that find them an embarassment.;)

elSicomoro 01-06-2004 09:10 PM

There's nothing wrong with being passionate. Being fairweather and ridiculous is another story...

I do think it's important to note that I said "in the United States." Some of the shit that goes on in Europe at football matches makes Philadelphia fans look charming.

lumberjim 01-06-2004 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
There's nothing wrong with being passionate. Being fairweather and ridiculous is another story...

I do think it's important to note that I said "in the United States." Some of the shit that goes on in Europe at football matches makes Philadelphia fans look charming.

How can you call Philly fans "fairweather" when there hasn't been any fair weather? Besides, I thought Cowboys fans were the most hated? Philly fans are honest. People need to get a sense of humor about it.

elSicomoro 01-06-2004 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
Philly fans are honest. People need to get a sense of humor about it.
Sometimes the way they act is indeed funny. But when they behave in the ways that UT mentioned above, I find it sad...and embarrassing.

Nothing But Net 01-06-2004 10:18 PM

Ewww!
 
After seeing that hideously deformed unit, I'm thinking of changing my tagline to Proudly Circumcised.

SteveDallas 01-06-2004 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
What the Philadelphia fans did was pathetic, but not really surprising.
I'm sorry, I refuse to believe the league could plunk down an entertainer wearing the visiting team's colors at halftime at ANY arena and not have them get booed.

Elspode 01-06-2004 10:33 PM

Jeez...how smashed do you have to be to forget to put your dick away, anyhow? I'd have thought he would end up face down in the urinal before being able to walk out of the john with his unit waving around.

Wait...do they even *have* urinals in Holland?

Happy Monkey 01-06-2004 11:25 PM

It wasn't an accident.

russotto 01-07-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ukamikanasi
Uncensored, if anyone's interested (NSFW): http://www.geenstijl.nl/gm/paginas/deetmanvoorlul.html
Karma: Lousy, mostly because of redundant posts.

99 44/100% pure 01-07-2004 03:00 PM

Re: Ewww!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nothing But Net
After seeing that hideously deformed unit, I'm thinking of changing my tagline to Proudly Circumcised.
I'm no big fan of the uncircumcised look, but that uncut fellow would think it highly ironic that you call HIS member deformed.

elSicomoro 01-07-2004 08:42 PM

Re: Re: Ewww!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 99 44/100% pure
I'm no big fan of the uncircumcised look
That's because you're Jewish...you're automatically biased against uncircumcised schlongs. ;)

Elspode 01-07-2004 09:59 PM

Am I clueless, or is 99 intimating that she is familiar enough with NBN's genitalia to render a comparative aesthetic opinion?

99 44/100% pure 01-08-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elspode
Am I clueless, or is 99 intimating that she is familiar enough with NBN's genitalia to render a comparative aesthetic opinion?
Yikes! Don't let HB see that! No, I was going on NBN's own words about his circumcised state -- no aesthetic judgement implied -- just noting that circumcision may be considered deliberate deformation of one's natural condition.

As for my own bias, I think it has more to do with being in the USA, rather than being Jewish. The vast majority of my experience has been with non-Jews, and by my (non-scientific) sampling, only about 2% have been uncircumcised. Any truthful gal will tell you, it's not the look, it's the smell.*

*OK, I don't need a whole bunch of uncircumcised guys, or "Intactically Correct" proponents getting all pissed off at me for implying that uncircumcised men don't keep themselves fresh as a daisy -- or accusing me of suffering from some western, hegemonist, market-driven cleanliness fanaticism. As I said, this is based on my own, limited experience. I figure we've got a little unspoken deal going between the sexes in this country: I'll keep shaving my pits; you keep Mr. Johnson clean. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go eat a bacon-cheeseburger and kick a few old ladies around.

Elspode 01-08-2004 12:33 PM

I don't think I've ever known anyone who was uncircumcised, but then again, I haven't spent much time investigating, so your opinion about the whole matter is much better than mine could ever be. If you think it is unpleasant, that's good enough for me!

xoxoxoBruce 01-08-2004 06:21 PM

Never had any complaints in either state.;)

OnyxCougar 01-08-2004 07:45 PM

From experience:

Un-circd are more "fragrant" than circ'd.

There is an approximate comparison, but I hesistate to tell you, because I know you'll ask how I found out.

Nothing But Net 01-08-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 99 44/100% pure

The vast majority of my experience has been with non-Jews, and by my (non-scientific) sampling, only about 2% have been uncircumcised.

I don't know, 99, but 2% sounds like a fairly specific ratio. Is that one out of fifty, or two out of 100, or what? What was the size of your sample? ;)

BTW: It's not a just a look, it's a lifestyle!

elSicomoro 01-08-2004 08:18 PM

Are you trying to get an ass-whipping from Hubris, or what? :)

sixfeet 01-08-2004 08:34 PM

yuck
 
I sure hope he washed his hands.......


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