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HappyTuesdays 04-07-2004 08:57 AM

Hot Female Enters!
 
Could everyone please check the appropriate box in my poll to see if everyone who uses the net is actually mid 40's, balding, male and 'unfortunate'. Please answer honestly, this is genuine research...

Undertoad 04-07-2004 09:22 AM

Troll

HappyTuesdays 04-07-2004 09:25 AM

Why the hostility?

Beestie 04-07-2004 09:40 AM

:vomit:

SteveDallas 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

Hostility? Where? A one-word declaration of "Troll" is about as kind a reception as this kind of post ever gets around here.

lumberjim 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

your poll sucks.

if you want to know about people, just ask. dont give us shitty answers to choose from.

HappyTuesdays 04-07-2004 10:11 AM

Sorry
 
I've obviously hit a nerve. It was only meant to be lighthearted, and if I'm honest, driven by a web-related experience I had where someone turned out to be something very different to what I was lead to believe. I am curious by the veil of anonymity that the internet presents, and perhaps not too well informed about 'netiquette'. So, please accept my apologies.

lumberjim 04-07-2004 10:15 AM

that's better.

hang out a while, we're pretty honest about who we are. some of us actually post pictures of ourselves if physical appearance matters that much to you. In this medium, however, you tend to look different to everyone, based on their perception of what you say. except sunsparkz and zippyt. they both look exactly like you'd think.


here're some of our pics:

cellar members image gallery

phillybilly 04-07-2004 10:21 AM

No problem here....
 
So people with to much time on their hands mayhap???

Cameron Diaz??? hot?? I always thought she was a little goofy looking actually.....

:3eye:


Carmen Electra, :yum: that would be a tasty treat, except she let rodman stick it to her....now she's just used trash, but still nice eye candy...:thumb:

So don't let some bored ape get to ya....just chill..later!

:rattat:

HappyTuesdays 04-07-2004 10:44 AM

thanks, I agree Carmen is fit (although mildly concerned about the Freud-inspired surname). I prefer Brad Pitt. But then I'm female. .. ;)

phillybilly 04-07-2004 10:49 AM

Got it...
 
it's all cool....



Later :rattat:

PS, did you include yourself in that poll?? Are you hot?? ;)

HappyTuesdays 04-07-2004 11:05 AM

I'll leave that to your imagination. Laterz...:beer:

Beestie 04-07-2004 11:15 AM

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I thought this might come in handy in this thread....

ladysycamore 04-07-2004 11:40 AM

Re: Sorry
 
Quote:

Originally posted by HappyTuesdays
I've obviously hit a nerve. It was only meant to be lighthearted, and if I'm honest, driven by a web-related experience I had where someone turned out to be something very different to what I was lead to believe. I am curious by the veil of anonymity that the internet presents, and perhaps not too well informed about 'netiquette'. So, please accept my apologies.
Hmph, netiquette-schmetiquette. You didn't know...oh well. Plus, I get a bit tired of people expecting everyone on the net to know every.single.thing about so called "netiquette". It's one thing to have come across as a complete ass, but that's not how *I* read it. In fact, I thought your poll answers were pretty funny.

Besides, so many people have different ideas about "netiquette", then who are you supposed to believe? Ah well. *shrugs*

I say, no harm, no foul. It's the internet..have fun. Real life is too serious as it is. :)

Undertoad 04-07-2004 12:04 PM

I'm 40. For the last 3 months I've been dating. And I've looked at a thousand online dating profiles. Here is what I've learned.

Women who primarily value their own "hotness" above all else become strangely pathetic by about age 36. Their age remains a consideration, and they start to fight it with desperation. They use too much eye makeup and too many stupid lines and their whole attitude no longer suits them. They dye their hair all one color and lose any subtleties. Maybe this kind of thing works in dark, noisy bars, but in the harsh light of reality they fall apart quickly. All their life they've had one thing to offer and it didn't really mean all that much in the long run.

The "hot" women at that age are the ones who are comfy in their own skin. Their looks or sexuality are lightly applied as a part of the whole package. The eyes are most beautiful when the lights are on and somebody's home, you know?

You don't have to answer to us - answer to yourself, dearie, what are you going to be in 10 years? 20 years? Is it going to be a pretty picture?

russotto 04-07-2004 12:22 PM

Early 30's, not balding, male.

I noticed the question didn't say anything about the comparison to Brad Pitt or Cameron Diaz being favorable. After all, even "You're no Brad Pitt" is a comparison :-)

jaguar 04-07-2004 12:23 PM

Is it wierd using those online dating things?
Always struck me....odd. I donno, I like meeting people, then thinking about dating them, otherwise it seems like a shopping mall or something.

Undertoad 04-07-2004 12:35 PM

It can be a little awkward at first, but it settles out quicker than you'd think. You don't just go meet up, you have email conversations which, if it's working, then leads to phone conversations which, if it's working, then leads to meeting in public.

It does require a bit of bravery and leap of faith. But the possible payoff is so awesome that it is worth the time and effort. The worst that can happen is you meet someone interesting.

lumberjim 04-07-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad


You don't have to answer to us - answer to yourself, dearie, what are you going to be in 10 years? 20 years? Is it going to be a pretty picture?

UT,
Do you know this girl from somewhere else or something? Your reaction seems a little extreme. It was an akward entrance, I'd say, but since she apologized right away, I think you may be acting a little rough toward her. This only strikes me as odd because you are normally so careful of people's feelings. What am I missing?

jaguar 04-07-2004 12:40 PM

What's the noise/signal ratio like?
If you don't mind me asking.

Undertoad 04-07-2004 12:49 PM

Nothing harsh atall; it's just observations and a very very direct question.

Jag: I don't understand your question well enough to answer. To me, there's practically no noise in people's profiles because they are speaking directly about themselves and what they like and what they want. And then I read between the lines and get even more signal, or at least I like to think I do - so the ratio is beyond infinite.

jaguar 04-07-2004 12:55 PM

But how easy is it to accurately gague someone from their profile and how often are those profiles misleading.

Undertoad 04-07-2004 01:09 PM

I have in-person met three women in this way and they were all quite accurate about who they are.

I think some of the confusion comes from people not being able to read or write correctly. One woman said that some of the guys were way, way off. "Why would they assume I was a NASCAR* fan?" she asked. I figured out that the song lyrics she'd quoted in her profile were part of a song used in a few NASCAR ads. An unhappy coincidence for her but you could see why that might happen.


*NASCAR = US auto racing league

HappyTuesdays 04-08-2004 04:37 AM

Thanks for all your comments.

Ladysycamore - I quite agree. The net is just one of many places where etiquette dictates dialogue - and ultimately meaning - by assuming certain restrictions: particulary with regard to the 'tone', or perceived intention, and whether the individual or theme adheres to existing values/preconceptions.

Undertoad - what can I say. I have no idea what I will be like in 10/20 years time, or even if I'll still be on this planet. However, I do agree with your comments, and in an era of mass-consumption where image-altering devices like make-up and plastic surgery are not only accessible but ubiquitous, is it any wonder women (and increasingly men) have been reduced to a snapshot? First impressions, we are told, take just a few seconds (as demonstrated by a few comments here...?) and people perhaps unsurprisingly feel the need to condense themselves into a 'visual soundbite', first - in order to be noticed, and second - to be appreciated.

Russotto - quite right. But they would still have to have a high IQ.

Lumberjim - thanks for the support, and isn't it funny how just a few comments on a website can affect people's feelings? Are we really that fragile that sticks and stones are finally becoming redundant in this age of information and reduction of real human contact? Personally, words affect me more than anything else, maybe because by their very nature they are laced with intent (malevolent or otherwise), and there isn't usually much room for ambiguity.

Just one thing - if there is one person here who can claim to never have been influenced by an image or first impression then I take my proverbial hat off to you. It has been claimed that we use this and other means of simplification to help us make sense of the world. So if you had to be judged on one thing - what would you like it to be?

limey 04-08-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by HappyTuesdays
[snip] .... So if you had to be judged on one thing - what would you like it to be?
Isn't that material for another thread (not a poll, I think!)?

Undertoad 04-08-2004 10:06 AM

If I were to be judged by only one thing, I would want it to be my Cellar posts.

ladysycamore 04-08-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HappyTuesdays
Just one thing - if there is one person here who can claim to never have been influenced by an image or first impression then I take my proverbial hat off to you. It has been claimed that we use this and other means of simplification to help us make sense of the world. So if you had to be judged on one thing - what would you like it to be?
If I *had* to be judged, I'll take a page from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King's book:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

*sigh* And we're still dreaming, Dr. King...:(

xoxoxoBruce 04-08-2004 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by ladysycamore


If I *had* to be judged, I'll take a page from the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King's book:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

*sigh* And we're still dreaming, Dr. King...:(

Just hope you're not judged by your choice of roommates. :haha:

Griff 04-08-2004 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad

The "hot" women at that age are the ones who are comfy in their own skin. Their looks or sexuality are lightly applied as a part of the whole package. The eyes are most beautiful when the lights are on and somebody's home, you know?

Well put.

39 2/3 bald, tubby, no Brad Pitt... met a person of the opposite sex once, she kept me.

plthijinx 04-08-2004 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lumberjim
your poll sucks.

if you want to know about people, just ask. dont give us shitty answers to choose from.

that's why i answered your hot er, uh, yeah whatever.

edit: note to self, read the entire thread first, erf.

Brigliadore 04-08-2004 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Is it wierd using those online dating things?
Match.com is how HP and I met. So sometimes they do work.

Brigliadore 04-08-2004 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
But how easy is it to accurately gague someone from their profile and how often are those profiles misleading.
Sometimes it can be hard. A few of the guys I met on-line before Alan were not quite suited to me. One guy was great over email and on the phone but in person he only wanted to talk about himself, and there was no chemistry between us. Another guy also seemed great over email but on the second date he told me he wasn't going to bother with me any more because I hadn't kissed him yet. Then when I said it was unfair to think a person should go around kissing everyone they just met, this guy turned on the nasty juice and said some shitty things. Never had another date with him after that.
So yeah there can be some people who just don't mesh with you but there can also be some great people. I met a few on Match.com but Alan was by far the best guy I have ever met.

99 44/100% pure 04-09-2004 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Brigliadore


Match.com is how HP and I met. So sometimes they do work.

HB and I met that way, too! My overall experience was very good; I met a number of great guys who were just what they said they were. Fortunately I held out for HB -- for polar opposites on most matters, we are uncannily well suited to each other.

Looking around on a huge site like Match.com was like having 10 friends who know you really well each put five guys that they think are well-suited to you into a room, in suspended animation. You have keys to the room and can go in and spend time with whichever one you want, any time, night or day. Since they were all recommended by friends, there are hardly any losers or jerks in the bunch.

Man, is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?

SteveDallas 04-09-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Women who primarily value their own "hotness" above all else become strangely pathetic by about age 36. . . The "hot" women at that age are the ones who are comfy in their own skin.
Interesting you say that... I'd have to agree based on one very specific instance: my high school reunion.

At the 5-year reunion, everybody was approximately 23 years old. Mostly people were just done with college or finishing up, maybe starting grad school or establishing themselves in a new job. You damn near couldn't have told the difference between any of us then and back in school.

Fast forward 5 years to the 10-year reunion; the typical age was then 28. The difference was unbelievable. It was like half the class all of a sudden decided to grow up and become themselves. It's hard to explain, and the changes weren't entirely physical, but I really had an overwhelming impression that, like you say, many of the people were just comfortable in their own skin in a way they hadn't been back before.

headsplice 04-09-2004 03:20 PM

26 (almost 27); male; not beaten-with-a-stick-ugly, but not Brad Pitt either.
As far as my love life goes, it keeps getting better as I get older. As I've gotten older, I've become more comfortable with who I am, and that kind of confidence apparently works (to apply the 'comfortable in one's own skin' concept to myself) as just over the past year or so I've gone on more dates with more extremely attractive (not just good looking, but intelligent, well-spoken, funny women) than I would have ever dreamed possible even a couple of years ago.

Also, my crazy-radar has become more sensitive, so I can tell which ones to avoid almost from the get-go (it's amazing how much you can tell about a person from the way they walk and carry themselves).

xoxoxoBruce 04-09-2004 06:53 PM

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(it's amazing how much you can tell about a person from the way they walk and carry themselves).
Watch out for the ones in a sedan chair carried by 4 big guys in diapers.;)


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