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Bullitt 07-16-2004 12:32 AM

Games across the pond
 
So which do you like better, rugby or american football?

lumberjim 07-16-2004 12:38 AM

what the hell kind of a name is "All Blacks"?

wolf 07-16-2004 12:45 AM

I don't know enough about Rugby to make a comparison. I don't think I get the obscure sports channel from my cable provider.

ladysycamore 07-16-2004 02:03 PM

GO RAVENS!!!!
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/
:D

zippyt 07-16-2004 06:21 PM

Rugby ROCKS !!!
football is for pussys !!!!!

wolf 07-17-2004 01:36 AM

Da Bears.

jaguar 07-17-2004 02:05 AM

LJ, feel free to say that to them, a group of massive brawny moaris. I could do with a laugh ;)

They always seem to wear so much padding in rugby, looks more like a pillowfight compared to rugby.

Bullitt 07-17-2004 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf
I don't know enough about Rugby to make a comparison. I don't think I get the obscure sports channel from my cable provider.

Eh its not that obscure mate. Has almost as big of a following as soccer in Europe i hear.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim
what the hell kind of a name is "All Blacks"?

Well, if my memory serves me correctly.. the All Blacks are an Aussie team that i think used to be/is a team with abirigional (spelling?) hertage.

One of my rugby teammates gave me this great comparison of rugby and football: "Football is kinda like rugby. Except that its played by little girls who can't take the constant running and need pads because they get owies from the other boys." God i love being a tight end prop who gets to absolutely rape the scrawny backs.... heh heh

jaguar 07-17-2004 11:57 AM

The all blacks are NZ, the wallabies are from AU, call an all black member Australian and you'll be all black and blue.

wolf 07-17-2004 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt
Eh its not that obscure mate. Has almost as big of a following as soccer in Europe i hear.

Philadelphia has two seasons. Football and Hockey.

Bullitt 07-17-2004 02:15 PM

Wow i'm an idiot.. thanks jag for the heads up lol.

DanaC 07-17-2004 07:13 PM

I tried watching American football when they showed the Superbowl on latenight tv a few years ago......I cant say as I liked itmuch.....Didnt seem to have much flow....I mean the action would flurry up for a brief spell and then they'd all stop.....and whats with the two seperate teams? a defense team and an offense team? ( have i got that right?)

All seemed very disjointed to me. I like the ebb and flow of Rugby or football( y'know, the original football game....unlike that game which you insist on calling football and which bears closer resemblance to rugby*stops for a moment and takes a deep calming breath*

Rugby is an insane game. Fun to watch.....and excellent practical experience for the medics involved. 'Course.....there'd be less practice for them if the players wore lots of snuggly padding to protect themselves but where'd be the fun in that?

I had a friend who used to be into rugby. He told me stories of what the rugby team are like when they party. .....and when they travel. Frikkin nutters. Rugby lads are notorious here for being complete loons. Bit like your Frat boys. The girls are even worse!

lumberjim 07-17-2004 09:09 PM

*cracks knuckles* The 'disjointedness' in Football is part of the appeal. It concentrates your attention *scratches ass* on the game into finite moments. The play may only be 3 or 4 seconds long. *takes a sip of liquid* That draws your attention to what they're doing specifically. you don't get whiplash trying to follow the ball around, *sits up straight* and miss the things that you miss in a constant motion game. You just watch the ball move around. *blinks* *blinks again* Might as well be watching Nascar. It's not like anyone ever scores, either. 1-0 yay!*swats at fly*

please. Football is the best game ever created period. *puffs up chest* Rugby is cool, and the blokes are tough, and all, but gimme a break. *wonders if he made his point*

DanaC 07-17-2004 09:23 PM

Do any women play Football in the States? ( American football that is)

wolf 07-18-2004 01:22 AM

Not professionally. There are, however, women who have attempted to play football at other levels. It hasn't gone well. I've heard of a few "Powder Puff Football" teams, but they are very few and far between. There was recently quite the scandal related to sexual harrassment of a female kicker for a college team.

DanaC 07-18-2004 08:53 AM

We have a fair few women playing rugby over here :)

Cyber Wolf 07-23-2004 10:45 AM

Here in the states Football is still considered a "man's game" even though a sizable number of the fandom is made up of women. And no, it hasn't gone well for women who've tried to get into the pro-football circuit. Personally I think the men are just afraid of possibly being thoroughly clocked by a woman and having the world know about it. :D

DanaC 07-23-2004 10:52 AM

*chuckles* indeed

In the UK sports are very divided along gender lines. Football is played by both but the women's game gets no real following, it's really only the traditional football leagues and clubs which attract popular attention and theyre male. The biggest sporting events in the UK and Europe are almost always male with the possible exception of tennis. Meanwhile the games traditionally seen as obvious womens' games such as netball or lacrosse are very much relegated to the school team in people's perceptions.....( in the UK a "school team" means children playing, not superfit well trained athletes who are watched by millions)

lookout123 07-23-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
Personally I think the men are just afraid of possibly being thoroughly clocked by a woman and having the world know about it. :D


there is some truth to that. i played just about every sport out there and many of them with females. the only place i had problems was in wrestling (real wrestling, not the BS on tv.) one of our rival schools had a female that wrestled the same class that i did. it was a tough decision that i caught a lot of shit for, but i actually forfeited every time i came up against her. it was a no win situation for me. if she beat me, which is always a possiblity, i would have been ridiculed mercilessly. if i had beat her, i would have been ridiculed for beating up on a girl. it was just easier on me to forfeit. i felt bad for her though because she was pretty good but didn't get to wrestle very often because out of the 10 or so schools we competed against, at least 5 of us just forfeited rather than go up against her.

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in football, one of our rivals had a female offensive lineman and she knocked the shit out of me one time, and of course that made it into the game films for the next practice...

phillybilly 07-23-2004 02:30 PM

RIGHT???
 
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Originally Posted by zippyt
Rugby ROCKS !!!
football is for pussys !!!!!

I've never seen to many rugby matches (NOR PLAYED IN) that compared to the college football games I played...

Once I blew out my knee, I decided, since I was not medically cleared to ever play football again, to play rugby.....I was young what can I say...

First of...Rugby is ALL cardio.....the hitting isn't even a quarter of what football is....second of all.....our biggest player was MAYBE 6'1" 220, which made ME, second or third...(6 foot, 210....at the time :D )

So it is ALMOST comparing apples & oranges....the hitting in football is MUCH mor vicious then rugby, but you need to be in top cardo shape for rugging...another thing I used to say about guys who opted for rugby over football....this being Americans mind you....that they weren't SMART enough to play football.....in the three years I played rugby, we never had anything more then a piece of paper with a few 'set' playes on it...compared to an entire playbook I used in two & a half years as a college fullback, calling scheme, aduibles...etc......so my take.....form playing BOTH sports...

Football, much more violent and cerebral at the same time.....

Rugby, more instinctual & faster.....

But football players being PUSSIES??? You go tell the biggest rugger out there to tell that to a 6'7" 360lb NFL lineman.....I'm sure he'll decline

Later!!

lumberjim 07-23-2004 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
there is some truth to that. i played just about every sport out there and many of them with females. the only place i had problems was in wrestling (real wrestling, not the BS on tv.) one of our rival schools had a female that wrestled the same class that i did. it was a tough decision that i caught a lot of shit for, but i actually forfeited every time i came up against her. it was a no win situation for me. if she beat me, which is always a possiblity, i would have been ridiculed mercilessly. if i had beat her, i would have been ridiculed for beating up on a girl. it was just easier on me to forfeit. i felt bad for her though because she was pretty good but didn't get to wrestle very often because out of the 10 or so schools we competed against, at least 5 of us just forfeited rather than go up against her.

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in football, one of our rivals had a female offensive lineman and she knocked the shit out of me one time, and of course that made it into the game films for the next practice...

wait just a goddamn minute.

you were school aged, i presume. and had the opportunity to wrestle with a girl, and you declined?


homo

LSMFT 07-24-2004 02:48 PM

I played rugby ONCE, just once in High School. I was cut from Varsity "tackle" football for being too small (yeah, thanx for waiting three years to tell me), so they put me on the Rugby team. First game, I wasn't ANYWHERE near the ball, and some neanderthal caved in my chest. I was immediately paralyzed, and somebody tried waving salts around my nose, which caused me to vomit my last 3 meals. That's when I became the lone member of the cycling club.

lumberjim 07-24-2004 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim
*wonders if he made his point*

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Originally Posted by DanaC
*chuckles*

*guesses not*


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