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lumberjim 05-14-2005 12:32 PM

a..hyuk, i'm gonna build a barn
 
getting ready to have a barn built in our backyard. got an idea of what we want. anyone ever done this? advice? referrals? pictures of your barn?

thanks

wolf 05-14-2005 01:47 PM

Jinx won't yet you keep the sheep in the house any more?

lookout123 05-14-2005 02:27 PM

kids a little rambunctious?

Dagney 05-14-2005 03:08 PM

You could call the Amish....

hrmm.....well, the mere idea of that is problematic in itself.

Clodfobble 05-14-2005 04:53 PM

Maybe Lumberjim's got a really loud voice...

Griff 05-14-2005 06:03 PM

I've noticed money talks quite loudly among the plain people. They do darn good work though. You doing stick built or timber frame?

jinx 05-15-2005 08:47 AM

Something like this. Actually, exactly like that, just for less money.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2005 09:29 AM

So what's the problem? You have the pictures.
Drag home some boards, 2x4s, posts and Lam-beams. Nail them together until they look like the pictures. ;)

Feels like I'm leaving something out........Oh yeah, there's the part where Jinx, wearing her sexiest outfit, has a chat with the local officials about little matters like permits and inspections.
Don't forget site preparation...footings?...slab?..water?...power?...access?

Wait a minute.....uh huh.....uh huh....spell it....uh huh.....thanks.
OK, I called a buddy in Blue Ball, he said Better Built is a good outfit but to check the local Penny Saver and shopping papers for any number of Mennonite carpenters/builders. They'll do a good job and you won't get pregnant.

elSicomoro 05-15-2005 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagney
You could call the Amish....

hrmm.....well, the mere idea of that is problematic in itself.

It's not like LJ and Jinx are that far from the Amish, though...they could just sit on the side of Route 30 and when a buggy passes by, go, "Hey! You! Build me a barn, bitch!" And if the Amish refused, then they could steal a wheel off the buggy and drive away. What are the Amish gonna do? Run after 'em?

lumberjim 05-15-2005 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
So what's the problem? You have the pictures.
Drag home some boards, 2x4s, posts and Lam-beams. Nail them together until they look like the pictures. ;)

Feels like I'm leaving something out........Oh yeah, there's the part where Jinx, wearing her sexiest outfit, has a chat with the local officials about little matters like permits and inspections.
Don't forget site preparation...footings?...slab?..water?...power?...access?

Wait a minute.....uh huh.....uh huh....spell it....uh huh.....thanks.
OK, I called a buddy in Blue Ball, he said Better Built is a good outfit but to check the local Penny Saver and shopping papers for any number of Mennonite carpenters/builders. They'll do a good job and you won't get pregnant.

personally, i'd love to build it myself. jinx, however will not entertain that. she's all 'realistic' about it. it would take me 3 months of wednesdays and sundays, and it would probably be crooked when i got done.

the foundation/floor is actually one of the things i have questions about. post or slab? permits wont be a problem in elverson. the borough manager is thrilled to be consulted at all, so he should be amenable.

Undertoad 05-15-2005 01:44 PM

If you use a concrete slab with channels in it, you can just hose down the floor to muck out the cows.

xoxoxoBruce 05-15-2005 01:48 PM

Make that sheep. :lol:

elSicomoro 05-15-2005 02:27 PM

Or alpacas.

Murphonian Logic 05-16-2005 12:30 AM

You get a pro to pour the foundation (and do the initial block work, if you're into that). After that, we could sooo build a freaking barn. I've been looking for an excuse to buy a nail gun anyway...

LabRat 05-16-2005 08:39 AM

Neat. What's it for?

Elspode 05-16-2005 12:14 PM

Storage for unused kayaks?

jinx 05-16-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murphonian Logic
we could sooo build a freaking barn. I've been looking for an excuse to buy a nail gun anyway...

You just hush up mister. :headshake

Quote:

Originally Posted by spode
Storage for unused kayaks?

Among other things, yes. Also workshop space for LJ's collection of only slightly used power tools (our small, low ceiling'd basement has hindered his woodworking greatness), loft space for the kids to play in and fuck all up instead of the living room, etc. etc...
We'll be kayaking the Moose River and the Fulton Chain of Lakes for a week next month. I can't wait!

Sun_Sparkz 06-01-2005 11:37 PM

i have a few barns at home. i'll get some pics.

we store 2years worth of grain in one, Ploughing equiptment in the other.. Ours are all iron and metal tho.. none of this fancy wooden barn crap!!;)

The pic you showed looks awesome though! its huge!

Sun_Sparkz 06-01-2005 11:39 PM

oh and we normal people call them sheds..

wolf 06-02-2005 12:38 AM

In America a shed is a very small outbuilding that's not quite large enough to keep your lawnmower and weedwhacker in.

dar512 06-02-2005 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx
loft space for the kids to play in and fuck all up instead of the living room, etc. etc...

Good luck with that. In my experience, the kids will mess up the play room AND the living room
and the kitchen, and the dining room...

blue 06-02-2005 12:20 PM

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Built this myself, no plans, one minor injury, one summer, windows in clerestory not done yet.

Undertoad 06-02-2005 12:28 PM

That's great work by you blue. And welcome back!

Elspode 06-02-2005 03:41 PM

Obviously, this shot was taken *after* you removed the 16d nail?

lumberjim 06-02-2005 04:18 PM

blue!!!!!!

you prick! welcome back....i hope!

kerosene 06-02-2005 04:23 PM

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i built this barn. I don't think it will withstand as much as yours.

Elspode 06-02-2005 10:57 PM

Very nice work, Case. New studio is paying benefits already, I see...

wolf 06-03-2005 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue
Built this myself, no plans, one minor injury, one summer, windows in clerestory not done yet.

Blue, honey!!!! Welcome back!!

Nice shed.

kerosene 06-03-2005 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
Very nice work, Case. New studio is paying benefits already, I see...

Yes, the new studio is perfect...complete with a console record player and growing green things. Now, all I need is some more Nag Champa.

Sorry...didn't mean to hijack the thread. Just was so excited about finishing that painting yesterday.

jinx 06-03-2005 08:46 AM

Blue! :jig:
Great job, mad skillz etc... But we've already determined that LJ is not going to build ours himself, just the porch/deck thinger (to replace our scary back steps).

Are you gonna stay a bit this time?

blue 06-03-2005 11:06 AM

Thanks guys, I'll drop in from time to time at the least.

I wan't to try something bigger and better, running out of land tho....would love to try a round barn.

Good call on not letting LJ attempt it Jinx, you're to young to be a widow.

Actually it was from the edge of the roll up door 'spode, and I finished attaching the piece before letting go. It was awesome, had time to grab the camera before it really started gooshing out.

Lunaephiliac 06-03-2005 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
In America a shed is a very small outbuilding that's not quite large enough to keep your lawnmower and weedwhacker in.

Yes, and it's also invariably covered in cobwebs. Even if you just built it, it will be knee-deep in wolf spiders in two hours.

busterb 06-03-2005 09:48 PM

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Since case is an artist, I found this photo of painting a friend of mine did of a barn & donated to camp bluebird for cancer surviors, which she's one. She's been a welder at ship yard on gulf coast for close to 30 yrs. She also did one of a house boat that's good. If anyone is interested.

kerosene 06-03-2005 09:51 PM

wow, that looks neat, buster. My admire your friend for her vision and tenacity.

LCanal 06-03-2005 10:19 PM

Wolf has a point there.

LJ are you building a barn to house livestock or a shed for storing equipment? Must be a zillion plans available.


shed1

• noun 1 a simple roofed structure, typically of wood and used for storage or to shelter animals. 2 a larger structure, typically with one or more sides open, for storing vehicles or machinery.


barn

• noun a large farm building used for storage or for housing livestock.


Sorry to be pedantic but yoos guys are usually somewhat cavalier about language.
To Paraphrase " "The Only Thing Necessary For Bad English To Triumph Is For Good Men To Do Nothing. ...

I would not be that difficult to do the wall framing yourself. Just a tape, a cut off saw and a hammer. If you were Ok with a truss roof you could either fabricate them on the ground using those special steel plate thingies or get them made for you. Probably just as cheap to get them made by the time you factor in the material cost and your labour. If you have enough "mates" locally it would be fun to have an old fashion barn raising to help you erect the walls and instal the trusses. Roofing maybe better left to tradesmen unless you have done it before, same goes for hanging the doors, installing windows.

Us guys should not underestimate the "I built it myself" feeling.

wolf 06-04-2005 01:14 AM

I believe that the livestock LJ is intending to house are his two young children ... in the loft area, and probably conventional storage on the lower floor.

This way he doesn't have to build a playhouse and a shed.

Also, once the kids outgrow the loft playroom, it can easily be converted into Daddy's Playroom.

lumberjim 06-04-2005 07:54 AM

no livestock. just storage, lawn/garden stuff, and a workshop.

Murphonian Logic 06-10-2005 12:26 AM

(Huffy) If you don't include a spankatorioum, I'm out on helping to build it.
Unless there's free beer.
Mmmmm...beeeer.


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