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dar512 06-29-2005 08:53 AM

Those Funny Folks at PETA Are at it Again
 
Activists want fish off aquarium menu

An animal rights group has called on one of the largest aquariums in the United States to stop serving fish to its visitors, likening the practice to grilling up "poodle burgers at a dog show."

More nutty goodness here.

mrnoodle 06-29-2005 09:17 AM

They're not even TRYING to sound normal anymore. Anyway, I doubt the aquarium features cod and....what's that stuff they make fishsticks out of? haddock?

wolf 06-29-2005 10:23 AM

These are the same sort of people who boycotted Burger King to force them to change the name of their fish sandwich, The Whaler. (Yes, I do realize said boycott predated the formation of PETA. I'm just saying it was the same sort of nutters).

Why does it never occur to these people to do what they want, but understand that other people will continue to do what they want.

Hmmm. Maybe I'll have some burgers instead of the cereal this morning.

russotto 06-29-2005 01:04 PM

I'm sending in their idea to the Westminster Kennel Club. Mmmm, poodle burgers.

Pie 06-29-2005 01:13 PM

I can see the headline: Poodle Burger Wins Best In Show!

Trilby 06-29-2005 01:59 PM

:question: I'm wondering how a little beastie like a fish, who, IIRC, has a memory of 2-3 seconds, can be considered "intelligent and sensitive". How can you tell?

wolf 06-29-2005 02:01 PM

They cry a lot. You have to test the salinization of the tank water to really know.

lookout123 06-29-2005 02:03 PM

Quote:

how a little beastie like a fish,
and more importantly - where has BEESTIE been for the last month?


*thread hijack complete*

Elspode 06-29-2005 02:51 PM

My Oscars just look at whatever anyone else is eating, and you can tell they're thinking "Give me that...want that...feed me that."

They also think that while they're looking at the cats...and my fingers...and the feeder fish I put in there with them.

If we eat sushi, is it okay, then? 'Cause that's raw fish, and that's what other fish eat.

plthijinx 06-29-2005 03:27 PM

last summer there was a group protesting kangaroo burgers, they had news coverage of the protest in the paper the day before the protest. dumbasses. they helped the restaurant sell out!!! everyone that came to that restaurant that day came there to spite the peta peddlers. when we were driving off one of them said something to me and i thanked her for letting me know about the protest through the chronicle and that the kanga burgers were tasty!! (albeit a bit dry but good nevertheless) :yum: anyway, the look on her face went from a smile to ohmygod how sad! priceless.

wolf 06-30-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
My Oscars just look at whatever anyone else is eating, and you can tell they're thinking "Give me that...want that...feed me that."

One of my favorite Chinese restaurants (Abacus in Lansdale, PA) has a huge tank with all kinds of interesting and mysterious looking fish including an angelfish, a lionfish, and a really pissed off looking eel.

Towards the end of the night they throw a whole bunch of leftovers (looks mostly like egg roll innards) at the fish.

Yantze, where I've gone for Chinese New Year the last few years is Abacus' sister restaurant and they feed their koi in the pond that runs along the side wall in a similar manner.

Tonchi 06-30-2005 03:06 AM

Let us not forget, however, that PETA has done some outstanding things that many of you gentlemen here CAN appreciate. For instance, they persuaded Paty Manterola, one of Mexico's hottest actresses, to pose naked in a cage with her entire body painted as a tiger in order to protest the un-natural performances that Ringling Brothers Circus was forcing their animals to do. The idea was to show Hispanics that they should boycot the circus. Somehow I don't think the message got across... :mg:

http://www.petaenespanol.com/pdf/manterola-bb.jpg

If somebody can help me link the photo to this page, it will be worth it ;)

bluecuracao 06-30-2005 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspode
If we eat sushi, is it okay, then? 'Cause that's raw fish, and that's what other fish eat.

Well, some fish like to eat us, too, 'specially if we're swimming in the Gulf of Mexico. Fair is fair, I say.

BigV 06-30-2005 10:09 AM

Welcome bluecuracao!

I think those fishies really don't like to eat us. Just parts. Like, calves, fingers, you know, dangly bits.

*shrinkage*

plthijinx 06-30-2005 10:14 AM

when someone drowns in the gulf one of the first fish at them is the trigger fish. when ever i go offshore fishing i'll throw those little bastards back even though people rave about how good they are to eat.

wolf 06-30-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao
Well, some fish like to eat us, too, 'specially if we're swimming in the Gulf of Mexico. Fair is fair, I say.

Blue Baby! So good to see you! :) Welcome to The Cellar.

Elspode 06-30-2005 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonchi
Let us not forget, however, that PETA has done some outstanding things that many of you gentlemen here CAN appreciate. For instance, they persuaded Paty Manterola, one of Mexico's hottest actresses, to pose naked in a cage with her entire body painted as a tiger in order to protest the un-natural performances that Ringling Brothers Circus was forcing their animals to do. The idea was to show Hispanics that they should boycot the circus. Somehow I don't think the message got across... :mg:

http://www.petaenespanol.com/pdf/manterola-bb.jpg

If somebody can help me link the photo to this page, it will be worth it ;)

I am wholeheartedly in support of PETA's efforts to parade around nude people, and I support their right, nay, their *imperative* to do so.

I like to look at the news pics of such events while eating a big, juicy steak.

Tonchi 06-30-2005 03:15 PM

PETA's campaign in the US attempted to get well-known actresses to stand nude behind a sign that said "I'll go naked before I'll wear fur". There is a photo of that somewhere too. The names of better-endowed actresses who participated slips my mind at this time, but I remember that they got busted (forgive the pun) by some of New York's Finest before things got out of hand (sorry, the puns keep slipping out) :p

BigV 06-30-2005 05:54 PM

Is that what you call them? Puns? I've never heard them called that before. Cute.

Tonchi 07-06-2005 01:37 AM

You guys must miss all the good stuff by not watching Hispanic television. Today, from Pamplona, Spain, film of PETA's protest against the Running of the Bulls. It's cruel, you know :rolleyes:

The world saw at least six lovely young women dressed in nothing at all except black panties and huge bull's horns mounted on their heads :mg: One can only hope that no bulls were harmed in order to acquire said horns, but everything else was ALL natural.

One young man was also present in part of the film, but since you could only see to his waist we don't know how many horns ..... nevermind.

xoxoxoBruce 07-06-2005 03:01 PM

Is that a cable channel? :confused:

marichiko 07-06-2005 04:20 PM

I like this quote from the article linked in the OP:

Jerry Schubel, aquarium president, said in a statement that the facility served only sustainable and environmentally friendly fish and was committed to educating the public about conserving ocean environments.

Does anybody want to explain to me what an environmentally UNfriendly fish is? What? Do they litter the bottom of the ocean floor with the wrappers from their poodle burgers?

Tonchi, I knew I needed to start watching Spanish language cable channels more often and you have confirmed the intuition I've been having in that regard.

I will say that I do consider bull fighting to be a cruel sport, though.

footfootfoot 07-06-2005 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
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Does anybody want to explain to me what an environmentally UNfriendly fish is? ...

Sharks with Frickin' LASER BEAMS on their frickin' heads!

And if we can't get that, how about really, really mean sea bass?

wolf 07-07-2005 12:40 AM

Whales with diarrhea have long caused conflict for Greenpeace ... use the Rainbow Warrior to protect them, or ram them because they are spilling raw sewage into the oceans? What to do, oh what to do?

Elspode 07-07-2005 12:13 PM

[National Lampoon Radio Hour] Please give generously to Save the Whales Before They Blast Themselves Into Extinction. [/National Lampoon Radio Hour]

xoxoxoBruce 07-09-2005 07:22 PM

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Does anybody want to explain to me what an environmentally UNfriendly fish is?
Fish that have been transplanted by humans into ecological niches where they raise hell. :(

marichiko 07-09-2005 07:53 PM

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Fish that have been transplanted by humans into ecological niches where they raise hell. :(

Wouldn't one WANT to eat them in such cases? It WOULD be one way of getting rid of them and solving the problem. Here! Have a nice plate of lamprey eels!

xoxoxoBruce 07-09-2005 08:06 PM

No but plenty of people eat bass and brown trout that are killing off native species to name a couple of the hundreds if not thousands of problems. :(

marichiko 07-09-2005 08:32 PM

Ooooh, I hate those damn German brown trout that are crowding out all our nice little native brook trout and rainbows out here. Those brown trout don't even taste that good - not to my palate, anyhow. I don't know how we can get rid of the awful things. If you hear of something, let me know!

Elspode 07-10-2005 10:37 AM

Fish. Fish a lot. Until they're all gone.

pistonslap 07-11-2005 02:36 PM

I am a staunch supporter of PETV. Do you know that vegetables have feelings to? Think about that next time you bite into a carrot!

Happy Monkey 07-11-2005 02:54 PM

I support PETE. I can't think of anything that you should not treat ethically.

dar512 07-11-2005 03:16 PM

Carrot Juice is Murder - Arrogant Worms

Listen up, brothers and sisters
Come hear my desperate tale
I speak of our friends of nature
Trapped in the dirt like a jail

Vegetables live in oppression
Served on our tables each night
This killing of veggies is madness
I say we take up the fight

Salads are only for murderers
Cole slaw's a fascist regime
Don't think that they don't have feelings
Just 'cause a radish can't scream

{Refrain}
I've heard the screams of the vegetables, scream scream scream
Watching their skins being peeled, having their insides revealed
Grated and steamed with no mercy, burning off calories
How do you think that feels, bet it hurts really bad
Carrot juice constitutes murder, and that's a real crime
Greenhouses prisons for slaves, let my vegetables grow
It's time to stop all this gardening, it's dirty as hell
Let's call a spade a spade, it's a spade it's a spade it's a spade

I saw a man eating celery
So I beat him black and blue
If he ever touches a sprout again
I'll bite him clean in two

I'm a political prisoner
Trapped in a windowless cage
'Cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips
By killing five men in a rage

I told the judge when he sentenced me
"This is my finest hour
I'll kill those farmers again
Just to save one more cauliflower"

{Refrain}

How low as people do we dare to stoop
Making young broccolis bleed in the soup
Untie your beans, uncage your tomatoes
Set potted plants free, don't mash that potato, ah

I've heard the screams of the vegetables scream scream scream
Watching their skins being peeled fates in the stir fry are sealed
Grated and steamed with no mercy you fat gourmet scum
How do you think that feels leave them out in the fields
Carrot juice constitutes murder V8's genocide
Greenhouses prisons for slaves yes your compost's a grave
It's time to stop all this gardening take up macramé
Let's call a spade a spade it's a spade it's a spade it's a spade

bluecuracao 07-11-2005 07:26 PM

Uh, I'll be sure to give my uneaten side salad a proper funeral.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-24-2005 12:53 AM

Anyone else think PeTA's actual purpose is to discredit the animal-rights philosophy? Their campaigns routinely, maybe usually, backfire. Coincidence, sabotage, or just plain lack of talent?

wolf 07-24-2005 02:24 AM

Option 3.

Ad execs eat red meat.

And drink martinis.

And smoke.

You can't have a good ulcer and heart attack without 'em.

wolf 08-10-2005 09:27 AM

Nobody Knows the Trouble They've Seed

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NEW HAVEN — A two-hour animal rights demonstration on the Green Monday sparked outrage instead of sympathy from the public.

"This is the most racist thing I’ve ever seen on the Green. How dare you," roared Philip Goldson, 43, of New Haven at the protest organizers at Church and Chapel streets.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a national animal rights group, posted giant photographs of people, mostly black Americans, being tortured, sold and killed, next to photographs of animals, including cattle and sheep, being tortured, sold and killed.

"I think it is an apt comparison," said Josh Warchol, 26, of Wallingford, president of the Southern Connecticut Vegetarian Society, which is aligned with PETA.

PETA officials said they had hoped to generate dialogue with the shocking photographs.

"We realize these images are hurtful. It’s hard for me to imagine the hurt the animals go through. We should be treating animals according to their own best interests, not to the best interests of people," said Dawn Carr, PETA’s director of special projects.

PETA wants people to stop eating animals, stop using them for clothing, stop forcing animals to entertain people (as in a circus) and stop animal experimentation.

Carr said she doesn’t want animals sold or treated as property either.

The controversial display, which is on a national tour, is intended to drive home PETA’s point.

However, critics said the organization’s demonstration backfired.

One man demanded that the NAACP get involved immediately. Five minutes later, Scot X. Esdaile, president of the state and Greater New Haven chapters of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, arrived at the scene, surveyed the photos and blasted the organizers.

"Once again, black people are being pimped. You used us. You have used us enough," Esdaile said. "Take it down immediately."

"I am a black man! I can’t compare the suffering of these black human beings to the suffering of this cow," said Michael Perkins, 47, of New Haven. He stood in front of a photo of butchered livestock hung next to the photo of two lynched black men dangling before a white mob.

"You can’t compare me to a freaking cow," shouted John Darryl Thompson, 46, of New Haven, inches from Carr’s face. "We don’t care about PETA. You are playing a dangerous game."

Paul Tomaselli, 46, of North Branford took exception to an exhibit that included a photo of a black man being beaten to the ground by a white man with a stick while a white mob gathers.

Next to that photo was one of a man chasing a seal across the snow with a club.

"I think he’s right," said Tomaselli, who is white, in support of Thompson. "To compare people to animals is an unfairness to people."

The display, "Are Animals the New Slaves?" is on a 10-week, 42-city tour that started in early July. Today’s stop: Scranton, Pa., then on to Baltimore and Washington, D.C.

"New Haven is important because of the Amistad. This is a place where slaves were brought. What happened here was very important for abolition. The next great liberation movement is animal liberation," Carr said.

However, the Anti-Defamation League, a national civil rights organization, has publicly condemned PETA’s use of photos comparing human suffering in the Holocaust to animal suffering today; PETA apologized in May for the hurt it caused but stood by the comparisons.

That point of disagreement became a flashpoint in New Haven.

"This is the most hostile audience we’ve had," said PETA volunteer Ben Godwin.

At one point, police hovered at the edge of the Green, across from the demonstration.

Eight of the 12 banners compared the suffering of black Americans to the suffering of cattle, sheep, an elephant, a seal and a rooster. Other banners showed Native Americans exiled from their homes, children in a factory and men in a counter-demonstration against women’s rights.

A photo showing a concentration camp inmate with a number tattooed across his emaciated chest was juxtaposed against a shot of a monkey in a laboratory with a number branded across its chest.

"I have relatives who were in concentration camps," said Alex Reznikoff, 47, of Newtown. "I think this detracts from PETA’s message. It doesn’t make me think about animals at all."

Troubleshooter 08-10-2005 09:43 AM

I wonder if they're just trying to see how stupid they can get away with being.

I mean, are they really trying to marginalize themselves?

mrnoodle 08-10-2005 10:12 AM

They have nothing to offer but shock value. Their position is wholly rejected by the majority of their fellow carnivores, so they're stamping their feet and screaming like an attention-addicted 3 year old.

Bullitt 08-10-2005 11:02 AM

A backhand to the face usually takes care of that :boxers:

lookout123 08-10-2005 11:17 AM

PETA. goes well with butter. seriously, if we just kill them, cook them, and eat them we will have no more PETA protesters and we will have our bellies full.

Elspode 08-10-2005 11:38 AM

Let's see if I understand this...PETA essentially wants us to allow animals to do as they please, just like a human, right? Reproduce at will, wander the streets, invade our homes, spread disease, attack, kill and eat us in the woods?

Screw that. These people are nuts. What's next? Making animals stop eating each other?

lookout123 08-10-2005 11:40 AM

come on patrick - they wouldn't eat eachother if they weren't psychologically damaged from their harassment and oppression from carniverous humans.

marichiko 08-10-2005 12:29 PM

I'm an animal lover, but that story has got to be the stupidest, most insensitive thing I read in the last 20 minutes (the news is filled with examples of stupidity and insensitivity). Here PETA wants people to be sensitive to the suffering of our four-legged friends while showing NO sensitivity to the suffering of our two legged comrades. All PETA is doing is setting back their own cause. Why demand that everybody turn vegetarian, anyhow? Irs just not going to catch on. Far wiser to ask that animal experimentation be used only when absolutely necessary and that the meat that comes to our tables comes from animals which were processed in a humane a manner as possible, I visited one of those chicken "factory" type farms once. It was horrifying. Put me off chicken for an entire year. Now I eat chicken and eggs again, but only "free range" ones. PETA should work to effect changes like that and not use concentration camp victims or the mis-treatment of black Americans and compare these atrocities to chickens. :eyebrow:

wolf 08-10-2005 12:39 PM

Mari, I know that you, or others are likely to bust my shoes over this comment, but ...

you're awfully picky and elitist (free range chickens and eggs) for someone who says they've had to/been close to eating out of dumpsters.

marichiko 08-10-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf
Mari, I know that you, or others are likely to bust my shoes over this comment, but ...

you're awfully picky and elitist (free range chickens and eggs) for someone who says they've had to/been close to eating out of dumpsters.

Nah, I never said I was close to eating out of dumpsters. I've had to go to food banks in the past, but never dumpsters. One thing about this country is that there are many places where low income people can go get food donated by charities for free or at low cost. Here in Colorado we have something called Care and Share where you donate an hour or two a week to helping out and can get very good food, including fresh produce and meat and eggs, at half price.

If you ever visted a chicken factory, you'd be "picky and elistist", too. When I can't afford free range, I do without. Usually the eggs will go on sale at some point and I'll buy a couple of cartons then.

Clodfobble 08-10-2005 01:16 PM

Jay Sherman ("The Critic"): What's that sulfur smell coming from the egg bin? Ah, it must mean the eggs have ripened. Wait a minute! Eggs don't ripen! Eggs don't ripen!

BigV 08-10-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt
A backhand to the face usually takes care of that :boxers:

Wow. Camp sure has changed a lot since I've been there.

Bullitt 08-10-2005 03:44 PM

We don't take no crap from high schoolers :nadkick:

mricytoast 08-15-2005 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
I visited one of those chicken "factory" type farms once. It was horrifying. Put me off chicken for an entire year. Now I eat chicken and eggs again, but only "free range" ones. PETA should work to effect changes like that and not use concentration camp victims or the mis-treatment of black Americans and compare these atrocities to chickens. :eyebrow:

Fast Food Nation anyone? If anything, that is what PETA should be against. Not people eating animals. If people don't kill the animal humanely, it's going to die a slow death by being picked by vultures and other scavangers.

I myself always found PETA to be condescending in a weird sort of way. From my view, they want equality for animals, no? Then why is it that people can't eat meat then? Other animals eat meat. We are like animals. So why can't we eat meat? It seems they view people above animals because we can chose not to eat other animals, which says we are above other animals, which is completely against equality.

And we all love their posters. Next big gathering they have, I wouldn't be suprised if they equated lab testing to partial birth abortion.

It's as if they want people to disband all civilization. Animals are nusances sometimes, such as chewing through electrical wires or getting stuck in transformers. I guess that's our fault for creating such a network that eases our lives.

Elspode 08-15-2005 05:47 PM

Nude protester here in KC today. Barnum and Bailey's is coming to town, and PETA was here to protest the "enslavement and torture" of elephants. Yes, they did float the slavery comparison.

Once I again, I applaud PETA for their ongoing efforts to put lovely young women wearing only their panties out in the public eye for me to admire. Viva la protest! Freedom of Speech! Yay!

Back to my yummy steak dinner, now.

mricytoast 08-15-2005 08:33 PM

Man, those burgers were so tasty. And the lamb's blood I drank for dinner ran thick with clotty fats. And for desert, I ate a goat's skull.

Not really, but, had PETV known of my plans to fry onions on the grill, they'd have had me killed faster than... a cow munching grass.

wolf 08-16-2005 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mricytoast

And we all love their posters. Next big gathering they have, I wouldn't be suprised if they equated lab testing to partial birth abortion.

I think they support partial birth abortion, unless it involves cats.

mricytoast 08-16-2005 10:36 AM

No, I mean equate partial birth abortion to something like slaughtering cows. Say that the way a fetus was destroyed via PBA is the same as slitting a cows throat.

And yes, they probably would support it.

wolf 08-16-2005 01:23 PM

(I was making fun of PETA, not questioning you ... I would expect that kind of advertising from them as well. Or perhaps some stock footage from one of those Sally Struthers/children starving in Africa commericials. With the flies. Gotta have the flies.)

mricytoast 08-16-2005 01:56 PM

Yea... and lots of garbage picking. And then they'll show a picture of a beaver at a dam. And say that becuase of human advancement, this beaver has been forced to make his dam out of disposed plastics and garbage. And then flash forward to a dam made out of garbage.

And somehow they'd manage to give the image that flies eating African children is unethical... to the flies, that is. Somehow they'd portray some sort of idea of the "flies deserving better".

Elspode 08-16-2005 10:58 PM

I'm pretty sure PETA would be okay if we'd all just kill ourselves and let the buzzards feast on our rotting carcasses. Well, non-vegetarians, anyway.

mricytoast 08-17-2005 12:00 AM

Yes, it would be unethical if somehow we disrupted the food chain. Although the food chain is disrupted everyday by creatures not of the human species.

mrnoodle 08-17-2005 10:34 AM

I don't see anyone jumping to PETA's defense here -- not saying you animal rights ppl are cowards or anything.

Okay, I'll defend your position. I'll even try to win.
_______________________________________________

We are trying to make a point here. We find the use of animals to be equally degrading and cruel as the "use" of people without their consent. If you don't like the imagery we use, too damn bad.

Just because a cow can't verbalize its feelings doesn't mean it doesn't have any. Pain is pain, regardless. You're not claiming that the animals you slaughter don't feel pain, you're simply ignoring the fact because you don't want to change your lifestyle. A black man hanging from a tree bothers you, but a deer hanging there doesn't. Both were alive, both felt the pain of their passing.

It's pretty easy, actually. No living thing should have to suffer so that you can wear its skin or eat its meat. Humans possess the capability to save life and to avoid hurting others; forgive us, animal friends, for our failure to do so.

Abortion is okay, because that's feminist.

Bullitt 08-17-2005 11:41 AM

The way I see it, animals are living things that depend on consuming other living things for survival. The animal world is broken down into these categories: Animals that eat other animals are carnivores, omnivores eat other animals and plants, and herbivores eat just plant. Humans are animals, we are omnivores, that is how we are designed/evolved/whatever, nature is cruel and life survives off of death. However this is not to say that I agree with the inhumane ways of treating/killing animals to feed the population, but for some say that eating animals is wrong period, just seems absurd to me. I know its a lifestyle, and its just a personal choice, I just can't see the logic behind it.

Maybe I just like my hamburgers too much :yum:
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