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Undertoad 08-03-2005 01:44 PM

8/3/2005: Mars crater water
 
http://cellar.org/2005/marswater.jpg

The crater is 23 miles (35 km) wide, 1.2 miles deep, and that stuff in the middle is a frozen disc of water about 200 meters thick. Oh yeah, and it's on Mars.

BigV sends along this ApoD. The image itself was taken in February by the High Resolution Stereo Camera on
board Mars Express, the European Space Agency probe which is exploring the planet.

Queen of the Ryche 08-03-2005 01:54 PM

Wow. So that would make this "puddle" about 7 miles across? Impressive. And fascinating. Thanks BigV.

Trilby 08-03-2005 02:28 PM

I love the Cellar for many reasons and this is certainly one of them. Simply amazing--and I've not seen this pic anywhere but here. UT - you rock for making this possible! Plus, I'm trying to ingratiate myself to you seeing as how you've Skull & Bones connections and all.... ;)

footfootfoot 08-03-2005 02:29 PM

I'm told that mars crater water is *the only* water to mix with single malt whiskey.

Queen of the Ryche 08-03-2005 02:50 PM

And stirred gently, only with a Hopkin Leg.

mickja1 08-03-2005 03:24 PM

That is really cool for two reasons: 1) it makes it possible that life of some form exists/existed on Mars (at least bacteria, it is unlikely to be sterile), and 2) we can now send a manned mission to Mars. The water can be used for sustinence, generating oxygen, and generating fuel for a return to earth trip.

capnhowdy 08-03-2005 03:24 PM

I heard somewhere recently that mars would be closer to the earth this month than it will be in a long, long time. I think the closest on the 27th. I better do some research before I say much more.....
great stuff. I love it.

dar512 08-03-2005 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickja1
That is really cool for two reasons: 1) it makes it possible that life of some form exists/existed on Mars (at least bacteria, it is unlikely to be sterile), and 2) we can now send a manned mission to Mars. The water can be used for sustinence, generating oxygen, and generating fuel for a return to earth trip.

Except for the cosmic rays on the way.


This turned up on slashdot just today.

Trilby 08-03-2005 03:47 PM

Actually, boring.

As a former X-Ray Technologist, highly and obsessively monitored, I say Pah! What's the cancer rate of radiologists? Of techs? Lots of techs and rads die of thyroid CA...and worse. It's getting better but far above the national standard. Do you see anyone saying radiologic procedures should be banned?

gerstle 08-03-2005 03:48 PM

mmmm...
pappy van winkle bourbon over martian iceberg...

papabell 08-03-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy
I heard somewhere recently that mars would be closer to the earth this month than it will be in a long, long time. I think the closest on the 27th. I better do some research before I say much more.....
great stuff. I love it.

You're a little late capn

"At 5:51 a.m. EDT on Aug. 27, 2003, Mars will be within 34,646,418 miles (55,758,006 kilometers) of Earth. This will be the closest that Mars has come to our planet in nearly 60,000 years." - http://www.space.com/spacewatch/mars...ew_021108.html

xoxoxoBruce 08-03-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickja1
That is really cool for two reasons: 1) it makes it possible that life of some form exists/existed on Mars (at least bacteria, it is unlikely to be sterile), and 2) we can now send a manned mission to Mars. The water can be used for sustinence, generating oxygen, and generating fuel for a return to earth trip.

Damn right, we must exploit every resource in the universe, we must! :headshake

capnhowdy 08-03-2005 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papabell
You're a little late capn

"At 5:51 a.m. EDT on Aug. 27, 2003, Mars will be within 34,646,418 miles (55,758,006 kilometers) of Earth. This will be the closest that Mars has come to our planet in nearly 60,000 years." - http://www.space.com/spacewatch/mars...ew_021108.html


Damn.... I guess I'll blame it on the 70's....
some IDOT no, (I didn't forget the i), emailed that to me just 2 weeks ago. That's my fuck up for this month. :smack: :wstupid:

capnhowdy 08-03-2005 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Damn right, we must exploit every resource in the universe, we must! :headshake

Already? And we still have 2-3 resources left on this planet....... ;)

Griff 08-03-2005 07:43 PM

This is way more important than putting new siding on the shuttle. Let's Go!

xoxoxoBruce 08-03-2005 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy
Damn.... I guess I'll blame it on the 70's....
some IDOT no, (I didn't forget the i), emailed that to me just 2 weeks ago. That's my fuck up for this month. :smack: :wstupid:

Always check those emails on Snopes. ;)

Kagen4o4 08-03-2005 08:36 PM

theyve known about frozen water on mars for almost as long as theyve known about mars itself. (well had a good enough telescope to look at it)

south pole
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/Marssouthpole.jpg

telescope picture
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3..._300_245aa.jpg

BigV 08-03-2005 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
theyve known about frozen water on mars for almost as long as theyve known about mars itself. (well had a good enough telescope to look at it)...

I confess I already knew this (sowwy). But the title was catchy and the picture was much more dramatic. This is, after all, the IotD thread, and image counts.

Slight 08-04-2005 01:32 AM

I have some red / cyan glasses from spy kids 3D laying around so I was blown away looking at this anaglyph of the crater . But even crazier was this one at hi-res.

xoxoxoBruce 08-04-2005 04:25 AM

Strange, I tried the 3-D glasses and it looked like a hill instead of a depression. When I turned them around (cheap paper kind, rebend) and put the red lens on the left instead of the right, it looked great. No idea why?? :confused:

Perry Winkle 08-04-2005 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Strange, I tried the 3-D glasses and it looked like a hill instead of a depression. When I turned them around (cheap paper kind, rebend) and put the red lens on the left instead of the right, it looked great. No idea why?? :confused:

God is just screwing with you. Nothing to worry about.

Happy Monkey 08-04-2005 06:24 AM

Alas, the Anaglyph 3D Glasses Standards Committee has much work to do. In fact, I believe even the two images Slight posted use opposite standards.

magilla 08-04-2005 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy
Damn.... I guess I'll blame it on the 70's....
some IDOT no, (I didn't forget the i), emailed that to me just 2 weeks ago. That's my fuck up for this month. :smack: :wstupid:

No, you got it right. Yes, back in March it was the closest in 60K years. But THIS month Mars is again close, just not quite as close as it was before.

Chris

footfootfoot 08-04-2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche
And stirred gently, only with a Hopkin Leg.

It's getting tougher and tougher to find a good hopkin leg these days, especially since I misplaced mine...

Elspode 08-04-2005 03:45 PM

We've known for years that there was water ice on Mars, comingled to some extent with CO2 ice. What is unique about the crater is that it is all water ice, discrete and separate from frozen carbon dioxide. This crater is located one of the polar regions, however, making it kin to the ice caps we can easily see with a modest telescope.

Let me know when they find liqid water standing at the Martian equator. *That* will be exciting.

BigV 08-04-2005 04:33 PM

with ambient air pressure approximately 1% of what we enjoy here on our big blue marble, that water would sublimate (not melt->evaporate, since it's soooo cold. brrr.) But you're right on. That *would* be exciting. Very very.

capnhowdy 08-04-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV
with ambient air pressure approximately 1% of what we enjoy here on our big blue marble, that water would sublimate (not melt->evaporate, since it's soooo cold. brrr.) But you're right on. That *would* be exciting. Very very.


If the water did [sublimate] , it would probably become part of the planet's "atmosphere" and never make it back to the ground. Obvously the planet hasn't had any major changes in climate in eons.
I thought I saw my uncle Cleve strolling around in the last image.... :D

xoxoxoBruce 08-04-2005 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy
Obvously the planet hasn't had any major changes in climate in eons.

Well we can fix that little problem pretty quickly. Hell, we can make it a ghetto in a couple of years, once we get there. :lol:

Elspode 08-07-2005 11:51 PM

Get our asses up there and pump several trillion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, we'll have 'er put to rights in no time.

Kagen4o4 08-08-2005 01:46 AM

got any atmospheric rust converter?


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