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xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2006 11:21 AM

WARNING -- GRAPHIC WOUNDS
 
Again, WARNING, what follows is three pictures of graphic wounds that supposedly were inflicted on a Police officer by a knife wielding perp.

My purpose for posting these admittedly revolting pictures is to ask you people with experience, is this real?
How can someone have such large gaping wounds and not be gushing blood?

I can remember times I've had my heart ripped out and it felt like this, but checking the mirror proved it didn't look like this.

Once more, warning, these are graphic. :eek:

xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2006 11:23 AM

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xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2006 11:26 AM

:mg:

SteveDallas 02-25-2006 12:20 PM

Yuck. Where did these come from Bruce?

xoxoxoBruce 02-25-2006 01:26 PM

Someone emailed me a pps containing these pictures and a coversheet claiming they originated with Mike Fugate, Deputy U.S, Marshal in El Paso.
It was a warning to law enforcement officers to shoot knife wielding baddies rather than trying to disarm them. :eyebrow:

Trilby 02-25-2006 01:28 PM

Them wounds look real to me. People just look like red, beefy stuff and fat inside.

bluecuracao 02-25-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
How can someone have such large gaping wounds and not be gushing blood?

There are not any big veins to gush blood where the guy got cut, thank goodness. My fiance had a similarly deep gash (though not nearly as long) on the fleshy part of his leg once, and it hardly bled at all--giving us an all-too-clear view of all the layers of skin and fat and muscle. :sick:

busterb 02-25-2006 02:26 PM

IF these are real, That must have been a double damn sharp knife to cut though his clothes. Shoot you bet!

SteveDallas 02-25-2006 05:44 PM

Well I've never seen any wound deeper than a paper cut, but it seems odd that somebody with the cuts shown in photo #1 would be sitting up!

seakdivers 02-25-2006 05:45 PM

He was obviously bleeding pretty good at an earlier time. His boxer shorts have blood soaked into them, and so does the material under his torso. There is obvious smeared semi-dry blood on his back in areas outside of the immediate wound area, which makes me think that the wounds had been cleaned & bleeding had pretty much stopped prior to the pictures being taken. These pics were taken in a hospital, so I'm sure they had to get him cleaned up to get good shots of the wounds.

My personal opinion? (ok with a little help ;) )
1. It's likely he wasn't clothed in a police uniform
2. It was domestic (note that the tattoo on his back was slashed through)
3. It was done with a box cutter or short bladed type of knife.

But since all I've got is 3 photos and no story to go off of - it may as well have been aliens with a laser gun.

Anyhoo - to answer your question Bruce.... yes, you can be cut like that without gushing tons of blood. As long as no veins are hit, the bleeding isn't as heavy as one might think. He was cut in areas that are not particularly vascular, and are mostly fatty.

oh - p.s.
Eeewwwww!!!

zippyt 02-26-2006 12:36 AM

as they told us in Boot camp ,
" when you go to a knife fight ,
expect to get cut ,
When you go to a gun fight ,
expect to get shot . "

I totaly agree with Seak , as long as it ain't veinus it aint to bad ,
I saw a knife fight once in the PI , these two dudes slashed each other up bad but kept on fighting , well that is untill one of them turned into a fountin and hit the pavement and didn't get up :(

Kagen4o4 03-01-2006 04:22 PM

the one on his chest doesnt seem to make much sense though, it looks too deep for a chest cut not to be hitting bone

hes gonna have to get that tattoo redone.

wolf 03-04-2006 02:29 PM

I finally got a doctor to look at these. It's been busy lately, but last night we had this guy who stabbed himself in the chest with a steakknife because he was pissed off at the neighbors or something. I don't know much more because I just took the initial phone call and he came in after my shift was over.


Anyway, that incident reminded me about these pictures and I showed them to the doc. He says that the wounds are real, and quite typical. There are no major blood vessels where the guy got cut. In the wound on his stomach (picture #2), the gooey looking bits are fat, and the deeper raw steaky-looking bit is a muscle that was cut into. the wiggly bit on picture #3 is probably wound packing material.

The most dangerous wound is probably the one on his back that goes down from his right shoulder towards his belt line ... because of the danger of a pneumothorax (lung puncture and collapse, which are easy to miss because sometimes the tear isn't open until a person gets into just the right position).

After I got this info, I got a 30 minute lecture on c-sections and the amount of bleeding you can get when slicing a uterus open.

I'm not sure I needed that info.

seakdivers 03-04-2006 02:50 PM

Ewww Wolf - I don't think I would want that information either.
A few years ago I loaned my sister & her husband my digital camera so that they could take pictures when their son was born (via c-section). I had to download the pics and burn a cd for them. It was pretty gross.

wolf 03-04-2006 05:17 PM

If they do that again, just leave it on icon view, and only check the first one or two pics. Those should be safe, just a lot of sweaty, scrinchy-faced smiling. Or is it grimacing?


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