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Pangloss62 05-08-2006 06:31 PM

If your erection lasts for more than 4 hours...
 
The idea that Viagra and its clones are drugs only for men is simply silly. The whole point of Viagra is to make sure you can maintain an erection long enough to bring your woman "friend" to orgasm. Women have been waiting for a drug like that for years. Men are so sensitive about their natural performance that they turned normal sexual response into a lucrative business (hold off on that AIDS research Jim, we've got a good one here!). Alfred Kinsey may have been a bit eccentric, and may have even fudged some numbers, but much of his "report" contains valid data. Consider this:

"For perhaps three-quarters of all males, orgasm is reached within two minutes after the initiation of the sexual relation, and for a not inconsiderable number of males the climax may be reached within less than a minute or even within ten or twenty seconds after coital entrance. Occassionally, a male may become so stimulated psychically or through physical petting that he ejaculates before he has effected genital union."

God I love those terms "coital entrance" and "genital union." "Honey, I feel ready to initiate coital entrance. OK?" "Hey hon, I'm in the mood for a genital union. You up for that after the game?"

Moreover, I think Kinsey makes a good point about rapid response that exposes our essential selfeshness, especially among women::

"Far from being abnormal, the human male who is quick in his sexual response is quite normal among he mammals, and usual in his own speices [most people forget that we are primates]. It is curious that the term 'impotance' should have ever been applied to such rapid response. It would be difficult to find another situation in which and individual was quick and intense in his repsonses was labeled anything but superior, and that in most instances is exactly what the rapidly ejaculating male probably is, however inconvenient and unfortunate his qualities may be from the standpoint of the wife in the relationship."

Unfortunately, I am abnormal, and can engage in genital union for as long as my partner wants. Oh, how I long to be a "normal" primate.

And why do you think all these older women are hooking up with teenage boys? I'll let Kinsey tell you:

"Exceptions are found chiefly among younger married males who are still in their teens. At that age, 15 percent of the population is capable of experiencing two or more ejaculations during a limited period of time and during continuous erotic activity [this has always been the case for me]. The number of males who are capable of such multiple orgasm decreases with advancing age. Not more than 7 percent remain so capable by age 35 [cue the violins, or get some Viagra]."

I think the above explains a lot about dysfunctional sexuality among today's couples; it's not about performance, it's about psychology.. We're all too selfish and too insecure.

KinkyVixen 05-08-2006 06:40 PM

Just for the record (and I've only read a portion of this entry so it could be completely irrelevant) but I have to say this, just for the record, and in my opinion only...

Those pills weren't made or geared towards women. I don't care how long my guy goes..although I want at least more than 2 minutes...I don't care how long he goes as long as I'm getting enjoyment out of it too. That for mean, means orgasm as well. You don't have to have a hard on to get a girl off....you can get a girl off in many more ways than just having an erection. You can use your hands, your mouth, toys...or whatever else you may be into. In my opinion those pills are made for guys who think that the longer they go the better they are, or just for guys who can't get it up in general.

richlevy 05-08-2006 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KinkyVixen
You can use your hands, your mouth, toys...

You forgot to put in the disclaimer.

"I am not a lawyer. Please check you local and state laws for sodomy statutes and restrictions on sexual devices which would place this advice in contradiction of laws created by prudish morons who probably couldn't spell erection, never mind actually achieve one."

MaggieL 05-08-2006 07:10 PM

These drugs are prescribed for "erectile dysfunction", which usually means "can't get it up at all'.

And that "four hour" warning is very very real; my ex- (a nurse practitioner who works in emergency medicine) explained that when a priapism (which is what that is called) lasts for too long, the blood pooled in the corpus cavernosum starts to clot...and may need to be drained surgically.

Ew.

MaggieL 05-08-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KinkyVixen
You don't have to have a hard on to get a girl off....

Ya think? :-)

KinkyVixen 05-08-2006 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieL
Ya think? :-)

Hey! Be nice, I was just reacting to this...

Quote:

The whole point of Viagra is to make sure you can maintain an erection long enough to bring your woman "friend" to orgasm.

KinkyVixen 05-08-2006 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy
You forgot to put in the disclaimer.

"I am not a lawyer. Please check you local and state laws for sodomy statutes and restrictions on sexual devices which would place this advice in contradiction of laws created by prudish morons who probably couldn't spell erection, never mind actually achieve one."

And thanks RL...I never thought I would actually have to put a disclaimer on my own opinion but I guess in this day and age it would be advisable. So, Thanks.

Pangloss62 05-08-2006 10:16 PM

I totally agree
 
Indeed. It is not just traditional coitus that can bring a woman to orgasm. We have very large brains, so we should be able to make sure "you" (meaning women) are brought to a nice, deep, and satisfying orgasmic experience. Just as you said; there is more than one way to skin a cat. I feel best when my woman has an orgasm, even if I don't. I like to please her.

footfootfoot 05-10-2006 10:16 PM

someone wake me up when I come...zzzzzzzzzz
;)

mrnoodle 05-11-2006 09:50 AM

Women have orgasms?

I've never stuck around after mine long enough to find out. Hmph. Who'da thought.


/pig

DucksNuts 05-11-2006 07:41 PM

noodle, have I dated you in the past???

xoxoxoBruce 05-11-2006 08:05 PM

Most men can get off in under two minutes because their ancestors did. The slow ones got eaten by critters while they were distracted and didn't reproduce as much. Being quick is better for the reproduction scheme of things.

The fly in the ointment is, it sometimes interferes with making love, which is a whole different matter. To be successful at that, takes more work and imagination which is even tougher, post orgasm. :)

footfootfoot 05-11-2006 09:20 PM

I miss making love. ever since the advent of the inchlet we've been on a strict regimen of exhaustion induced abstinence interupted sporadically with knee wobblers.

The nice thing about making love is that you can make love for four hours and being hard never really (brace yourself Kathleen) enters into it.

rkzenrage 05-12-2006 02:05 AM

How about a drug that helps with women's sex drive, you know sever it from all the "junk" they attach to it?
Man, we need that one!

Iggy 05-12-2006 02:19 PM

They say testosterone increases womens sex drive, but I don't really want the side effects of it. Like increased body hair and acne. Who needs that!


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