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Hippikos 08-22-2006 05:28 AM

Is Bush an Idiot?
 
Have a look at this video and judge for yourself.

Beestie 08-22-2006 12:01 PM

Is this a trick question?

Griff 08-22-2006 12:04 PM

I don't know, I can peacefully coexist with the fish.

DanaC 08-22-2006 12:10 PM

I'd like to think not. I'd like to think that an Idiot really, really couldn't find their way into the most powerful job in the world.

Beestie 08-22-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC
I'd like to think not. I'd like to think that an Idiot really, really couldn't find their way into the most powerful job in the world.

Same way a condom finds its way where it ends up, I guess.

Shawnee123 08-22-2006 03:29 PM

So he might not be an idiot; perhaps he is just a really horrible speaker. However, I would expect someone in such a position to have ability in all sorts of areas, public speaking being as important as it can be when seeking credibility. Can people be bad speakers and still be intelligent? Of course! Would I expect that and not judge that in, say, a coworker? Sure! Do I expect the President of my country to be better than the average smart joe? You bet I do!

Then again, it might just be that he is an idiot!

Flint 08-22-2006 03:43 PM

George Bush does not really have poor public speaking skills. Or at least, he hasn't always had them. For instance, in the gubernatorial debates against Ann Richards, canidate Bush was clear, concise, and articulate. His rhetorical playbook was way different back then - strikingly so.

I believe that his "just a regular guy" routine is the bread and butter of his political success, but it doesn't indicate a lack of intelligence, or even a lack of public speaking skills. That is, unless he has had a brain injury, or something, since his days in Texas. Maybe being sober has handicapped his locution? I don't know. But the Bush I remember was nothing like the bumbling boob we see these days.

Clodfobble 08-22-2006 04:48 PM

There was actually a video going around awhile back claiming that Bush had a degenerative mental disease that we weren't being told about, a la Reagan's Alzheimer's. It put footage of lots of Bush's gubernatorial debates next to his more recent speaking, and the difference really was striking.

DanaC 08-22-2006 04:52 PM

I suspect Flint has the answer.
Quote:

I believe that his "just a regular guy" routine is the bread and butter of his political success
This is a tad worrying though. What is it about being 'just a regular guy , nothing special, just like me' that makes people want him to run the country?

I like people who are just like me. I want someone better and more accomplished than me to run my country.

Elspode 08-22-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
But the Bush I remember was nothing like the bumbling boob we see these days.

I think he's suffered a closed head injury from the repeated sharp pulls on his strings.

rkzenrage 08-22-2006 06:37 PM

If someone doubts it by now, I suspect them as well.

Undertoad 08-22-2006 06:48 PM

We are the government; it's the first three words of the Constitution, "We The People". This is a concept that's part of the American fabric. We don't elect our betters, we vote for people that we think are roughly like us, in our category.

Kinda.

It's both a similar and a different pretense than giving your PM an ordinary housefront and address.

Aliantha 08-23-2006 02:56 AM

Was that a rhetorical question?

Hippikos 08-23-2006 07:17 AM

Hmmm there are signs that Rummy the Great's head is on the chopping board. Wonder how long it take to find a substitute?

Griff 08-23-2006 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint
I believe that his "just a regular guy" routine is the bread and butter of his political success, but it doesn't indicate a lack of intelligence, or even a lack of public speaking skills. That is, unless he has had a brain injury, or something, since his days in Texas. Maybe being sober has handicapped his locution? I don't know. But the Bush I remember was nothing like the bumbling boob we see these days.

I wouldn't expect the faux cowboy routine to sell that well outside of Texas, but he's definitely taking it up a notch. He could just be fried from the stress of destroying Western Civilization.


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