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Undertoad 09-10-2006 02:12 PM

Abu Ghraib since the Americans left
 
Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib

(sarcasm on)Oh good, we are leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.(sarcasm off)

The good news: nobody is having panties put on their head any more.

The bad news: it's hot irons now.

The good news: International Red Cross doesn't have anything bad to say about it.

The bad news: They're not allowed in.

9th Engineer 09-10-2006 03:19 PM

Lets give the family members of the prisoners the names and addresses of those who forced the early handover. Now we just wait for the groups involved to wash their hands of the whole deal and pat themselves on the back for preventing another incident of US imperialism. Makes me want to puke.

footfootfoot 09-10-2006 09:24 PM

The problem with monday morning quarterbacking is that it is always easy to see when to get the hell out of Dodge.

What do you do when the borders are clsoed and you can't move?

It's all fucked. fucky fucky fucky fucked.

fucked.

Elspode 09-10-2006 11:06 PM

So, its alright if Iraqis torture Iraqis? Um...isn't that one of the reasons that we went there in the first place? To stop that shit? Well, that and all those WMDs. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about those anymore.

Aliantha 09-10-2006 11:07 PM

Hmmmm...so the west went in, blew up a fair bit of the landscape and now they've left and nothing has changed? How surprising!

9th Engineer 09-10-2006 11:35 PM

Yup, they're determined to keep torturing and killing each other. Also a big suprise!

Elspode 09-11-2006 01:15 PM

Yeah, but the winner then gets to decide who to send to torture and kill everyone else all over the world. Plenty of fun for everyone.

rkzenrage 09-11-2006 01:37 PM

Not our problem.

headsplice 09-11-2006 02:12 PM

You mean, except for the fact that we're responsible, right?

9th Engineer 09-11-2006 02:18 PM

And how do you fathom that? They inflamatory groups use religeon more than policy examples. They were bombing our assets back when most of the Arab world was our ally against the Soviets.

headsplice 09-11-2006 02:38 PM

Let's see...we invaded, and then dismantled the social and economic structures preventing the various sects from doing exactly this. And then, just because, we didn't replace the structures that prevented the sects from this kind of behavior.
When you were a kid, and you broke someone else's toys, weren't you required to somehow make amends? Well guess what? We broke a country, and now we're responsible.

Spexxvet 09-11-2006 02:39 PM

"meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

At least it's not Americans doing it.
Is it right? No.
.Could we prevent it? Maybe by running their prisons for eternity, but that's not our job.
Did we start it? No, we gave the Iraqis a short repreive (naked human pyramids, threatening dogs, waterboarding notwithstanding), and now it's back to good old Sharia.
Will there be reprisals against Americans for this? There better fucking not be.
:2cents:

Hippikos 09-11-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib

(sarcasm on)Oh good, we are leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.(sarcasm off)

The good news: nobody is having panties put on their head any more.

The bad news: it's hot irons now.

The good news: International Red Cross doesn't have anything bad to say about it.

The bad news: They're not allowed in.

And your point is? What they do, we can do better?

Undertoad 09-11-2006 03:42 PM

I have no idea. I can't make any sense of it.

warch 09-11-2006 04:01 PM

I dunno either. I still like to think we invaders are more good guy than bad guy. Perhaps it helps our cause's pr that bad guys are really really really bad. But still, dead is dead. One man's overzealous naked interrogation is another man's ethnic cleansing.


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