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yesman065 12-21-2006 03:20 PM

Utopia: Can or should it exist?
 
I've heard the phrases - "Utopia doesn't exist." or "In a perfect world. . . . . "

Is this something we should individually and collectively be working toward or is it truly just a pipe dream - something that has absolutely no chance of happening? thoughts? opinions?

Ibby 12-21-2006 03:50 PM

It can't happen, because people suck.

Aliantha 12-21-2006 04:39 PM

It can't happen because everyone has a different idea about what Utopia is.

I'm pretty certain my idea of a perfect world would be far different from the perfect world someone like ummm...let's say LJ might dream of.

DanaC 12-21-2006 05:00 PM

The trouble with utopian visions is that they have a tendency to demand uniformity. that's the sort of thinking that led to eugenics.

lumberjim 12-21-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha
It can't happen because everyone has a different idea about what Utopia is.

I'm pretty certain my idea of a perfect world would be far different from the perfect world someone like ummm...let's say LJ might dream of.

don't start shit

Aliantha 12-21-2006 05:25 PM

Not starting shit. Just making an example from our vastly different views on the way the world should be run.

edit: I could have used many others also, such as Maggie, UG, 9th etc.

Don't be paranoid.

lumberjim 12-21-2006 05:30 PM

are you starting shit?

Aliantha 12-21-2006 05:31 PM

Grow up LJ. Can't you just leave things alone?

lumberjim 12-21-2006 05:32 PM

you must be starting shit

Aliantha 12-21-2006 05:33 PM

Do you have opposite political to views or me or not? If not, then I retract my statement.

If so, either respond to the question or stop trying to start shit.

That's all there is to it.

piercehawkeye45 12-21-2006 05:44 PM

First of all, the word utopia itself means that it cannot exist.

u=not + topia=society. utopia=A society that doesn't exist

A Eutopia is a society that is in perfect harmony but the Greek's realized that a perfect society is impossible, so they used utopia and it caught on.

Read "Brave New World" or "1984" for a good view on a dystopia, or a eutopia gone wrong.

lumberjim 12-21-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha
Do you have opposite political to views or me or not? If not, then I retract my statement.

If so, either respond to the question or stop trying to start shit.

That's all there is to it.

why is she starting shit?








lumberjim 12-21-2006 06:35 PM

ali, you still don't think i'm funny?

JayMcGee 12-21-2006 07:08 PM

stop shit-stirrng, LJ

JayMcGee 12-21-2006 07:08 PM

..... that's my niche on this board.....


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