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rkzenrage 10-01-2007 01:28 PM

More Hollywood Studios Say ‘No Smoking’
 
More Hollywood Studios Say ‘No Smoking’

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LOS ANGELES, Sept. 30 — In the movie musical “Dreamgirls” last year, James “Thunder” Early, Eddie Murphy’s soul-singing, chain-smoking character, was so infuriated by a fumbled food order that he mashed his cigarette into a chicken sandwich that was supposed to have no mayonnaise.

Alan Markfield/Fox Searchlight Pictures
The film “Waitress,” where smoking is seen, was produced independently and acquired by Fox.
That portrayal and scene could still fly these days at DreamWorks, which made the movie. But if Universal Pictures were to produce the movie today, Mr. Murphy might consider having his character switch to chewing gum.
Fucking morons.
I'm so astounded by the level of stupidity that I'm speechless.

Flint 10-01-2007 01:42 PM

Will the scenes featuring peanuts be removed as well? TPGs everywhere are "dying" to know.

deadbeater 10-01-2007 02:30 PM

There is so much smoking on movies that it became advertisement for Big Tobacco. It's time to remove the one large remaining source of recruitment left.

rkzenrage 10-01-2007 02:48 PM

"Recruitment?" It is a representation of real life. People smoked in the 50s.
Making Dreamgirls without smoking would have been stupid, just stupid, only stupid. Smoking was more common than it was not.
We going to make Sherlock Holmes now without his pipe, Popeye how about some remakes of great noir detective films without tobacco?
I bet you are one of those nanny state morons that wants to make fatty food illegal, how about not walking to work, soda (ban those from film next?), french fries, large portions, toy guns?
You gonna' pad the world so no parent actually has to teach their kids about reality?
You want alcohol to be illegal and illegal to be represented in any form also?
Art is about the world and people smoke genius.
I smoke in public and don't hide it when kids are present and don't give a fuck if you or anyone else likes it or not.
Move to Europe... they are well on their way to a nanny state.
Your alias sure is accurate.

rkzenrage 10-01-2007 03:38 PM

IT'S FOR THA' CHILLIN WE MUST CRUSH!!!!! Our rights are meaningless, parents are meaningless, teaching them about their own minds and choice is meaninless... RUN... RUNNNNNN!!!!!!

King 10-01-2007 11:03 PM

I hate smoking, but this kind of thing is absurd. Films need to be realistic, end of.

rkzenrage 10-01-2007 11:07 PM

Making a film about the entertainment industry in the fifties without tobacco makes as much sense as making it with everyone underwater.

DanaC 10-02-2007 08:28 AM

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Move to Europe... they are well on their way to a nanny state.
Europe isn't a state. At least if you're going to insult us get it right.

[eta] I'm getting a little tired of your constant sniping attacks on Britain and Europe. It's one thing to point out that something is happening over here, but every time your own country does something you dislike you point at Europe or Britain like we're fucking bogeymen to fright the children.

I post stuff I see wrong in America, and I post stuff I think that we do better. But what I don't do is make nasty sniping comments about America and Americans at every given opportunity. If a Brit were to post something negative about the Welfare state, or the NHS, I would not respond by telling them to 'move to America, where you can be as callous as them and not give a shit if your fellow citizens live or die'. That, to me, is the equivalent of your constant sideswipes at Europe and Britain.

dar512 10-02-2007 10:19 AM

I find the whole "movies must be realistic" argument laughable. I've seen very few movies that are truly realistic. And there's a lot of real life that doesn't need to be depicted in G and PG movies.

I suspect some of the posters above did not read TFA. It talks about restricting smoking in movies shown to kids.

lookout123 10-02-2007 10:45 AM

Don't feel bad dana. you just need to accept that he generally hates everything that doesn't line right up with his little thoughts. He just can't find enough things to be angry about in a 24 hour day.

rkzenrage 10-02-2007 10:50 AM

Dana, I LOVE Europeans and Europe a great deal and can see how you feel this way.
The one thing I point out on a regular basis is the Big Brother aspect of European society, all of Europe, not just the UK and when I say State I know that you know what I mean. There is more than one definition for the word and the Euro-Union is a state in every sense of the word and all of them are doing their finest to be more Big Brother every day.
I will try to be more specific in the future.
Sorry.

Dar. I did not only make the point about realism, I made the point that the studio makes the film the screenwriter writes... a decent writer writes what happened, people smoked in the 50s, so a good one will put it in. It's called period.
Some are less literate than others... I know that... I forgot it.

rkzenrage 10-02-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 391213)
Don't feel bad dana. you just need to accept that he generally hates everything that doesn't line right up with his little thoughts. He just can't find enough things to be angry about in a 24 hour day.

I am not angry at all, I hate no one or nothing.
You know nothing, you sound like a moron.

DanaC 10-02-2007 11:01 AM

Rk, how can you sit in a country that operates a system of Extraordinary Rendition and then tell me my part of the world is bordering on totalitarian?

There are differences in approach to things like censorship, true, but that's not because we are becoming more censorial. There was never a time when most Euro states weren't actively censoring material in the public domain. I'm not arguing this to be good or bad, just pointing out it's not a progression from a time of greater freedoms to a time of lesser freedoms. In terms of the 'nanny-state', I don't really see we're that different to America in many ways. Your approach to drugs use is way more draconian than in Britain, for instance, and certainly than in much of Europe (with tyhe possible exception of France). That is the State nannying its citizens and telling them the State knows best. I heard a story a few years ago about a Californian woman being prosecuted for smoking and drinking whilst pregnant.

In Europe, just like in the States, there are sometimes knee jerk laws responding to a perceived social ill. I rarely agree with these moves, but they are not something that Europe has a monopoly on.

I understand how you see Europe rk, but I completely disagree with your analysis of it. Part of the problem, I think is where the emphasis lies. In America a pop star accidentally shows her nipple and all hell breaks loose: in most european states that wouldn't even cause a flicker. We attach importance differently to different things. Our cultures are different to yours in many ways (and also similar in many ways).

rkzenrage 10-02-2007 11:05 AM

Is pot legal in the UK?
Great argument, LOL!
I speak out against it in the US, many do... I rarely, if ever, see it in the UK and when I bring it up I only see defense of these measures.

DanaC 10-02-2007 11:07 AM

Incidentally, since Scotland banned smoking in all enclosed public places, rates of heart disease have fallen by over 15%


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