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Advance in solar power technology
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This news is a week old, but I just saw it. A team at Princeton has developed a new kind of solar cell and dramatically increased its efficiency. This new cell uses nanotechnology to be almost 3 times more efficient than the best cells out there today.
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Attachment 42173 The conventional cell reflects a ton of light, but the new cell traps it. These new cells look pitch black and work well even on cloudy days. Electron microscope view of the mesh on the surface of the cell. Attachment 42174 Nanotechnology sounds expensive to manufacture, but solar cells are already expensive to manufacture, so maybe these new cells can compete on price too. I hope so. |
Cool. Hopefully the technology develops quickly
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Another advance:
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articl...d-solar-savant http://www.fastcoexist.com/1678871/a...ost-efficiency There are two interesting ideas here, one having to do with solar power and one having to do with money. Money first. Peter Thiel, creator of PayPal and an early FaceBook investor has beaucoup money, of course, and he has a plan to let young people with great ideas unleash their creativity free from the bounds of a class schedule and a work schedule. He offers 20 kids under 20 years old $100,000 to fund their businesses. The catch? They have to drop out of college so they can focus on their business ideas. Very bold! The second item is the idea/product of one of these Thiel Fellows, Eva Full. She's developed a way to retrofit existing solar panels to track the sun. This isn't a new idea, but her's is a passive system, requiring no motors or extra load on the panel. She uses bi-metal brackets whose differential expansion rates can exert a force thereby changing the angle of the panel, all by the direct influence of the sun's energy. |
wow. like flowers.
have you noticed how inexpensive and prevalent flat panel tv monitors have become in the last 3 years? THey even have tv at the gas pump!..... I bought a 46" tv for $348. that's retarded. They must just be cranking out flat panels at unbelievable rates. Let's hope they can do that with these solar panels. cover every roof with them. |
RE: solar power technology -- that is great!
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Reflection is not the major reason for low solar cell efficiencies. Semiconductors only create electricity from photons at specific frequencies. Other frequencies get reflected or lost as heat.
Meanwhile, a new material called dilute nitrates were developed for better fiber optic communication about a decade ago. Recently, Solar Junction implemented this in a solar cell that claims a phenomenal 44% efficiency. By using multiple PN junctions tuned to significant frequencies of light. A lab version has three junctions. Speculation says efficiencies of 50% may be possible with four or six junctions. Required in any recommendation are numbers. No numbers is the first fact to see through a myth. How efficient was that Princeton cell? I did not see any numbers. Maybe numbers exist. But I read looking for what is most important - numbers. Those numbers should even be in every executive summary. A recommendation without numbers should have had everyone asking damning questions. Not asking that question in 2003 meant a majority also believed Saddam had WMDs. A contempt for the American soldier. If a miracle device does not include numbers, then it may be as bogus as Listerine or Pond's Age Defying Creams. Solar Junction addressed a primary reason for low efficiency solar cells. Not reflection. Solar Junction also quantified those claims with specific numbers. Photocells, unfortunately, were not tuned to the many frequencies found in sunlight. Which explains so many solar cells with as low as 2% efficiency. |
The original article includes a link to the peer-reviewed article, at http://www.opticsinfobase.org/oe/abs...=oe-21-101-A60
It has the numbers, but they are a bit disappointing. Quote:
That 44% efficiency you mentioned - is that the percentage of solar energy that ends up as electricty (i.e. PCE)? or the percentage of photons which, having reached the absorbtion area, get picked up by the system? There could be a big difference. We must make sure we're comparing apples and apples, not apples and apple juice. |
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Does that mean we can expect solar cells to be that efficient in the next decade? Maybe not. The article remains vague about what might compromise the technology. Too much positive spin usually means an author did not ask damning questions. Maybe a business school graduate or communication major. Maybe one in ten innovations defined by numbers actually make it. Products recommended without numbers have a near zero success rate. I waited to reply here. To see how many would reach a conclusion or excitement when numbers for the Princeton cell were obviously missing or misleading. The "News at Princeton" article referred to 81% and 175% improvement. Why do we always demand numbers? Those numbers never mentioned "improvement over what" (as ZenGum notes). Since they did not say improvement over what, then the author may have been a business school graduate or something just as naive. Those who demanded numbers in 2003 saw that Saddam could not have WMDs. Numbers (mostly lack of them) exposed George Jr's administration as liars. Read posts back then to appreciate how few in 2003 were demanding numbers. How many knew only from subjective claims. Numbers identified a WMD myth before Mission Accomplished even started. We may see products based in Solar Junction's innovation. But with numbers provided (by ZenGum) from those other citations, the Princeton solar cell is virtually zero improvement. Another innovation in 2000 was a Foveon chip. That promised to fix a compromise in CCD or CMOS based cameras. One chip detected all three colors. Current technology only had black and white sensors each covered in a color filter for each primary color. Three sensors per pixel. And complex computer algorithms to adjust for variations in each sensor. Foveon chip was even demonstrated and was to be marketed in a Sigma Designs camera. Innovation that actually works and is defined superior by numbers has maybe a one in ten chance of succeeding. The Foveon chip (that performs similar to that Solar Junction chip) did not succeed. Most advanced solar cells, such as those on the Martian Rovers Spirit and Oppurtunity must be over 10% efficient. Best we could do. Curiousity, instead, uses a nuclear battery. Best solar cells possible when Curiousity was recently launched are still too inefficient. Moving on to innovation. Quantum dots are expected to achieve a 60% efficiency. Numbers that suggest a promising success rate - maybe better than one in ten chance of succeeding. Innovation is that difficult. And now made harder since the Republican party is openingly subverting science and innovation (such as Quantum physics). But any promise that does not include numbers is best called a scam. A point made obvious by the "News at Princeton" article. And how to identify so many news reports from Fox News as propaganda for the naive. The naive are told how to think without "reasons why" and numbers. A point that applies to more than just science. And so the question. Did each reader see obvious problems with the Princeton cell? It was a perfect example of spin. To an educated layman, it was not promising. Essential and missing numbers were a first indication. But then so many are so easily scammed as to believe in Listerine and Pond's "Age Defying Creams". Even numbers (or lack of them) make a scam obvious to a layman. Above examples recited here to demonstrate. |
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What's your solar panel setup? Roof based? How much current do they provide during full exposure? Where are you located?
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oh, and by the way, welcome to the cellar ShannonBush!
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