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depmats 06-07-2004 11:02 AM

D-Day
 
I have to say I was a little disappointed to check in this morning and find that there were no comments even taking note of the D-Day anniversary. Those men fought and many died for a noble cause and achieved something great. WWII vets are dieing by an average of 1100 per day. They won't be around much longer and thhey deserve to be honored by all.

jaguar 06-07-2004 11:04 AM

Too true. Brave bunch all round, we owe them and around 20m ruskies a heck of a lot.

Catwoman 06-07-2004 11:09 AM

I think this generation has disengaged with the war and our fragile history. It is imperative we remember. Once we forget, we may as well press replay and dance on their graves.

depmats 06-07-2004 11:09 AM

I don't want to start a flame war... but I am really curious to see-what people think about the French bringing the Germans to the D-Day hoopla?

jaguar 06-07-2004 11:11 AM

must've been a bit wierd but a lot of germans died too. In some ways it serves to highlight the stupidity of large groups of men who usually would have no fight with each other, most of whom don't want to be there, killing each other.

Beestie 06-07-2004 11:28 AM

Too many intervening wars fought on political ground. Its been a while since we fought a war with a genuine "bad guy" as opposed to a (so-called) "bad idea."

I think this unfortunate revision of "war" has led to the devaluation of the WWII soldier's true sacrifice by those who rely on the present definition of War to understand it.

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2004 11:32 AM

Germans? Why not, they certainly played a significant role in the event being commemorated.:)

depmats 06-07-2004 11:37 AM

Maybe I am just too cynical. I am stuck wondering whether the Germans were invited because of a genuine desire to include them in the memorial; or was Chirac (sp) just making an attempt to slap the Americans in the face. That would be typical of him, but I might just be a little to cynical in this case.

depmats 06-07-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Germans? Why not, they certainly played a significant role in the event being commemorated.:)
The emperor of Japan played a significant role too, but we didn't invite him to any of the parades when the men came home from NY. Maybe the vanquished aggressors don't really belong at memorial events.

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2004 11:44 AM

Tha Americans shouldn't have a problem. If they feel animosity toward the Germans, then this is a chance to gloat in their faces.
The Germans unlike the French were a combatant on D-Day.
If your thinking of more recent war, nah, they can't gang up on us.;)

jaguar 06-07-2004 11:46 AM

Er Bruce, Free French played a major role in disabling German defences and delaying and stopping reinforcements, I believe ike said they were worth a whole regiment or something to that effect.

depmats 06-07-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
The Germans unlike the French were a combatant on D-Day.

You probably could have left off the "on D-Day" part. That isn't really fair on my part though, the French underground was crucial to the war effort. The rest of the country, however...

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2004 11:50 AM

Well the french women kept the German officers busy while we got ready.:)

depmats 06-07-2004 11:55 AM

What happened to the females who had kids with the germans once the germans were gone though?

The Dutch took those ladies, shaved their heads and through them out of their towns.

xoxoxoBruce 06-07-2004 12:00 PM

True, they were ostracized after the fact, but they still helped us more than most, by keeping the Nazi officers distracted. :)


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