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lookout123 08-09-2004 01:52 PM

50 vs. 3
 
this seems pretty ridiculous. why didn't the group of 50 just pummel the crap out of the 3? the 3 were french so it isn't like they would have put up much of a fight...

50 vs. 3

Cyber Wolf 08-09-2004 02:09 PM

I think those 50 showed they were better people by not descending on those three.

Trilby 08-09-2004 02:10 PM

They coulda spewed vitriol at 'em. No, seriously, Jews usually don't fight back--unless they are the Israeli Army, then duck.

lookout123 08-09-2004 02:16 PM

i understand that they did the proper thing by not resorting to violence. i just would have rather seen the headline look something like this: Jews kick Frog Butt. film at 11.

xoxoxoBruce 08-09-2004 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
They coulda spewed vitriol at 'em. No, seriously, Jews usually don't fight back--unless they are the Israeli Army, then duck.

I think the JDL would differ with you. ;)

Trilby 08-09-2004 03:14 PM

Did I defame anyone? I am just going on what my Jewish friends tell me. And observation. My boyfriend is Jewish! He says Jews typically don't like confrontation.

xoxoxoBruce 08-09-2004 03:23 PM

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Did I defame anyone?
Where in hell did that come from??? All I said was the JDL would differ with you on Jews not fighting back. :confused:

Trilby 08-09-2004 03:26 PM

xoxoxoBruce--I think we both know that I am overly sensitive. Where are all the Palestinian supporters? I expected to see quite a backlash...maybe later?

Radar 08-09-2004 05:29 PM

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I think the JDL would differ with you.
I was friends with Irv Ruben (Leader of the JDL) before he was murdered by the FBI when their case was falling apart and it was coming out that they falsely accused him of trying to blow up a Muslim mosque to try to get people to stop being so angry at Arabs in America.

xoxoxoBruce 08-09-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
xoxoxoBruce--I think we both know that I am overly sensitive. Where are all the Palestinian supporters? I expected to see quite a backlash...maybe later?

I read Jews and French, where do Pals come into this? :confused:

Trilby 08-09-2004 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I read Jews and French, where do Pals come into this? :confused:

Right you are. It's just that if you talk about one...you usually end up talking about the other. Cyclical.

DanaC 08-09-2004 06:10 PM

*Considers jumping in with a comment on the Palestinians' suffering at the hands of violent Israelis but then decides theres no real point and goes off somewhere quiet for a joint instead*

DanaC 08-09-2004 06:14 PM

Atually , just as an amusing aside, my ex and I both had to leave an English class at college and take the course on home study because my ex got into a fist fight in the middle of a class debate with someone who made a rather unfortunate remark about the "jews meekly walking into the gas chambers" Needless to say since he'd launched an atack on the little shit I was voicing my suport from the sidelines. *smiles* in our defense regarding the inappropriate response we were only 20 at the time....The correct response might have been to wait til he got out of the college buildings and trash him on the way homer....only kidding of course

garnet 08-09-2004 07:39 PM

I visited Auschwitz this last June when I went to Eastern Europe. I'm not Jewish, but it was still one of the most depressing places I've ever been to--really awful. Why would anyone who is anti-semitic go there in the first place? Pretty sick.

DanaC 08-09-2004 07:55 PM

Sometimes I think people have difficulty differentiating between their feelings towards the Israeli state or political zionism in individuals and their attitude to the Jewish diaspora as a whole. The comments the three made sounded to me more like they were angry with Israel than with the people themselves as Jews. Unfortunately they chose to express their anger towards people who were paying their respects to the long dead victims of genocide and as such their vitriol was at best misplaced and at worst revoltingly insensitive. The fact that they were at Aushwitz at all makes me wonder if they are less anti semitic and more anti Israel...Their anger at the wearing of the Israeli flag may have been someone feling offended at the political entity of Israel laying claim to all grief for the holocaust. We do not even know the ethnic or religious identity of the three Frenchmen. For all we know they could be politically left wing anti right -wing -zionist french Jews.


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