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Originally posted by Beestie
No one in America is dying in the street because they were denied help. God forbid that anyone should suggest that people who lack the ability to provide for themselves should be taught how to do so. Much easier to just make yourself look like a hero by giving them what they want with no strings attached and no end in sight. Especially when its not even your money.
Following welfare reform, how many former recipients died in the streets leaving widows and orphans to starve and freeze to death in the open tundra versus the number of people who actually found gainful employment and contribute to society twofold by not drawing down public charity but instead paying into the system?
Sorry but all able bodied folk must pay their share - those who are able to but don't (a group that most if not all socialists pretend do not exist) are freeloaders. And those who allow them to freeload are nothing but enablers who derive a warped sense of justification (or political expedience) from the dependency they create and/or perpetuate.
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People are denied help all the time in this country and they die as a result. Just because they don't die in public view doesn't mean its not happening. They don't go to the tundra unless they happen to live in Alaska. Many homeless people do camp on public lands, however, because they have nowhere else to go.
I can't speak to the issue of welfare since I have no personal experience with it, but when it comes to the disabled of this country, the lack of help is appalling. The wait for SSI/SSDI can go on for years. In the meantime the disabled individual has little if any access to medical care and only what financial support the individual states may give. Some states give nothing. Colorado gives $130.00 a month plus $130 in food stamps. Try "living" on that. The waiting list for housing was 2 years. Now with the new HUD cuts, its approaching infinity.
I know of one woman with a son with Down's syndrome who finally got up the courage to leave her abusive husband. This woman had no education and suffered from severe post traumatic stress syndrome as a result of the abuse. She fled her home in Utah and went to Western Colorado. She applied to Social Services for help and was put on the two year wait list for housing. Meanwhile she and her son lived in an abandoned trailer with no heat on an old uranium claim that was no longer being mined. Due to beurocratic bungling, her food stamps were cut off. She had no transportation and no access to medical care. She killed herself, but she didn't do it on a city street, so I guess that doesn't count. I know of another woman, also on Colorado's West slope, who was extremely ill, also with no transportation. She ended up dying for lack of medical care. I know of a man who is schizophrenic, on the waiting list for housing. In the mean time he lives in the national forest like a wild animal, killing rabbits and deer to survive. I know of these cases first hand and can document them. Don't tell me people aren't dying for lack of help in this country!