did you ever serve tw? that's not an insult.
the reason i ask is that most of the guys i know are fairly open about it. not in proud or gloating manner, but just in a factual, relating the facts sort of way. but now that i think about it, things like that never are discussed around civilians... maybe it's just a concern that civilians would never understand, so they don't want to open themselves to judgement.
i'll have to ponder that one.
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