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Old 10-12-2004, 06:22 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by wolf
First off, maintenance programs are nowhere near as successful as you seem to believe. Whether you provide maintenance doses of heroin itself or of the best-known heroin analog, methadone, you've still got an addiction. An addiction, incidentally, to a substance that requires higher and higher doses to get the same level of satisfaction from over time.
Therefore cigarette addicts must consume more cigarettes every year to get the same level of satisfaction?

That was the point of those successful programs in Netherlands and Swizterland. Heroine is an addiction that most will never be cured of. So heroin maintenance using a fixed, small dose, had a near 100% success rate. Another ignored point: with right wing George Jr extremists in power, we could never even perform such clinical experiments. Political rhetoric again being more important than science. Right wing rhetoric says if rehabilitation does not work the first time, then rehabilitiation does not work - which is why we spend many times more money on enforcement and punishment rather than on rehab. Your comments?

To get back on point - are you saying rehabilitation only works a first time or are you saying many must go through rehab as much as three or more times? Clearly rehab does not work because even a drug rehab counsellor fell off the wagon? Or are there real world politicans that want to deal with the fact that many will require multiple episodes of rehab?

Are you saying methadone is more successful because it replaces one addiction with another? Are you saying that crack cocaine addicts 10 out of ten and that heroin only addicts 9 out of ten?

Another fact we know even from the cigarette addiction companies - the earlier a person becomes addicted, then the more addicted they are for life. Cigarette drug pushers had a program to addict 8 year olds. How? They were test marketing nicotene laced candies when the program was uncovered by Hubert Humphrey's Jr, AG for MN. Cigarette drug companies had a program to addict more customers for life because younger addicts are the most problematic.

Yes a heroine addicted 15 year old will always be a problematic case based upon the history of addiction. The younger the addict, then the more likely that addict will 'fall off the wagon'.
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